Comparative verse, fakes who were doing their own thing expecting to be saved, and somebody with do-nothing faith who says it but doesn't really believe it enough to follow. No, I don't think Christ is talking about maintaining a sinless life after belief, so much as it is an honest effort to try to follow what the bible says as we become aware of it.
Not everyone who says to me Lord, Lord
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It's one of the most misunderstood Bible verses in my opinion. Typically used by Christians against another denomination or "prosperity preachers."
But it actually has more to do with the heart. If you question it for yourself then it doesn't apply to you. Because that person wouldn't care and doesn't care about God.
But it actually has more to do with the heart. If you question it for yourself then it doesn't apply to you. Because that person wouldn't care and doesn't care about God.
I'm just not sure how to have a conversation with you. 10,000 words to say nothing.
See I'll tell you very plainly what happens when we are born again. When we are born, we are born "in sin". This means that we are born with a dead spirit and disconnected from God. This is how every single person on earth was born, save 1. Jesus was not born "in sin" or "of Adam". How? This is the whole reason for the virgin birth, Jesus was not born of the flesh, or "of Adam". Jesus is born of the Spirit, and how He could live as a perfect man, not disconnected from the Father. This is of course how He could pay for our sin on the cross, His perfect obedience is now applied to us justly. Cool, this is the gospel and the only way to reconcile us to God as we were created to be.
Stage set, now I'm going to tell you what happen to me when I was born again. My dead spirit was brought to life for the first time ever, and it was then reconciled or "reconnected" to His Spirit. To our God.
See this doesn't take 60 walls of text and to post half the Bible to share with people. All those who are saved in truth understand exactly what I'm saying, however a false convert cannot understand this or realize that he's a false convert. Again I'm not at all saying anything about your own relationship with God so please don't think I'm saying this is what you are or anything like that. I just find it kind of weird that you can't seem to sum up your understanding of this truth without diving as deep as you can into exactly what I asked you to please not do in the answer. Seems like a defense mechanism to me, and something I would have likely done when I was a false convert. Again I'm only comparing it to me and my experience of being a false convert, not you at all.
See I'll tell you very plainly what happens when we are born again. When we are born, we are born "in sin". This means that we are born with a dead spirit and disconnected from God. This is how every single person on earth was born, save 1. Jesus was not born "in sin" or "of Adam". How? This is the whole reason for the virgin birth, Jesus was not born of the flesh, or "of Adam". Jesus is born of the Spirit, and how He could live as a perfect man, not disconnected from the Father. This is of course how He could pay for our sin on the cross, His perfect obedience is now applied to us justly. Cool, this is the gospel and the only way to reconcile us to God as we were created to be.
Stage set, now I'm going to tell you what happen to me when I was born again. My dead spirit was brought to life for the first time ever, and it was then reconciled or "reconnected" to His Spirit. To our God.
See this doesn't take 60 walls of text and to post half the Bible to share with people. All those who are saved in truth understand exactly what I'm saying, however a false convert cannot understand this or realize that he's a false convert. Again I'm not at all saying anything about your own relationship with God so please don't think I'm saying this is what you are or anything like that. I just find it kind of weird that you can't seem to sum up your understanding of this truth without diving as deep as you can into exactly what I asked you to please not do in the answer. Seems like a defense mechanism to me, and something I would have likely done when I was a false convert. Again I'm only comparing it to me and my experience of being a false convert, not you at all.
“See I'll tell you very plainly what happens when we are born again. When we are born, we are born "in sin". This means that we are born with a dead spirit and disconnected from God”
born with a dead spirit hmm alright I guess I don’t think the bible says this anywhere it says mans mind and heart were corrupted and made sinful but …ok
“Jesus was not born "in sin" or "of Adam". How? This is the whole reason for the virgin birth, Jesus was not born of the flesh, or "of Adam"”
Mary was a descendant of adam Jesus was born of flesh and blood.
“See this doesn't take 60 walls of text and to post half the Bible to share with people.”
yea a person own thought never does what your saying is all wrong however when compared to what e bibke actually says so I mean I could just pontificate about what I think born again means but that’s sort of the reason no one agrees because no ones willing to learn what “ born again “ actually means in scripture
And when someone says “ hey look what all thses scriptures tell us about being born again should we believe those ? “
then there’s always someone “ explaining what it really means which never actually touches on anything that’s in scripture
The things the Bible teaches wre all going to prove true , the things we imagine won’t
My belief is to learn what’s really in the scripture and let that be true and how I think about terms like born again which comes from the doctrine in the gospel .
By the way our spirit isn’t dead and replaced Christs spirit comes to be with us to lead us home
“The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God’s children.”
Romans 8:16 NIV
Our spirit is being redeemed by his
born with a dead spirit hmm alright I guess I don’t think the bible says this anywhere it says mans mind and heart were corrupted and made sinful but …ok
“Jesus was not born "in sin" or "of Adam". How? This is the whole reason for the virgin birth, Jesus was not born of the flesh, or "of Adam"”
Mary was a descendant of adam Jesus was born of flesh and blood.
“See this doesn't take 60 walls of text and to post half the Bible to share with people.”
yea a person own thought never does what your saying is all wrong however when compared to what e bibke actually says so I mean I could just pontificate about what I think born again means but that’s sort of the reason no one agrees because no ones willing to learn what “ born again “ actually means in scripture
And when someone says “ hey look what all thses scriptures tell us about being born again should we believe those ? “
then there’s always someone “ explaining what it really means which never actually touches on anything that’s in scripture
The things the Bible teaches wre all going to prove true , the things we imagine won’t
My belief is to learn what’s really in the scripture and let that be true and how I think about terms like born again which comes from the doctrine in the gospel .
By the way our spirit isn’t dead and replaced Christs spirit comes to be with us to lead us home
“The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God’s children.”
Romans 8:16 NIV
Our spirit is being redeemed by his