Nothing We Build Can House The Presence Of God.

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
D

Deadflesh

Guest
#1
NOTHING WE BUILD CAN HOUSE THE PRESENCE OF GOD.


BE CAREFUL, THEN, HOW YOU BUILD

A. Brother

“However, the Most High does not
live in houses made by men.
Acts 7:48


“Let us, then, go to Him outside the camp,
bearing the disgrace He bore. For here
we do not have an enduring city, but we
are looking for the City that is to come.”
Heb. 13:13,14



When God calls us out and away from the “camp”, in other words, the traditions of men, the cities built by men, the works and monuments to man’s energies and efforts to do things for God, we must go to Him.

When God reminds us, through Stephen, that God doesn’t dwell in any man-made thing, then we must either follow Christ, dying like Stephen did, or follow men, who are represented by the religious establishment, and who actually stoned Stephen and murdered him there in Jerusalem.

There is nothing we touch that we don’t try to alter. Instead of laying all on the altar, we alter all God gives us. In this play on words, we see the truth God has spent all history trying to give us. We can’t do anything, or build anything, that will hold the presence of God. Everything we create, including any efforts to build systems, procedures, programs, curriculums, creeds, dogmas, or houses to house the Kingdom of God will automatically head in the wrong direction.

In the 1960’s a brilliant thinker, Marshall Macluhan, made a statement after examining the nature of communications; especially modern media. He said, “The medium is the message.” And, though a worldly man, and without Christ, Mr. Macluhan had it right. He basically meant that whatever we use to communicate a message changes that message in some way. Whatever we use to contain and relate something we’ve heard or seen is automatically tainted by the means we use.

Witness television news. Just being picked to be on the news is a form of editing: each day over 400 potential prime time stories are reviewed, but only 20 or so can be featured on the television news program you watch. Just picking the stories is a form of changing what is really going on in the world, and the medium, television, has changed the message in huge ways. That’s why every medium we use, including print, audio, video, or other forms of electronic communications, actually alters what we are trying to say.

Superimpose this truth upon our modern churches. By building our own huge buildings, and deciding that we must appear modern, in-tune with society, and have a relevant message, we have changed the gospel. Automatically. By choosing to concentrate on putting the gospel out to the masses, instead of keeping it a close-up, person-to-person message, we have automatically changed the nature of the gospel we preach. By choosing to print our ideas and thoughts on the gospel, we change how people perceive it.
Does this mean we don’t print the gospel truth, or that we don’t blog, make books, create websites, or twitter the truth? No, but it means that we must keep it simple. It means we must be absolutely careful not to alter what God has said in His Word. It means we must choose the medium carefully, and use it wisely. It means not many of us should become teachers, brethren, as James says, because we will be judged by a higher standard. It means we must use media, use technology, and make sure it doesn’t use us. Like handling fire, we must be aware it can burn as easily as it can warm us on a cold night.

Like Stephen, we must declare the truth simply, and straightforwardly. He was killed by the men who operated within the system, within the gates of the city; the city made by human hands. He was killed, as was His Lord Jesus, by the men who maintained the temple built by human hands, which sat inside that city, and was revered by all as the place the presence of God dwelt.

But we are called, like Stephen, to go outside the camp. Actually, the “men of God” who murdered him took him outside the camp to kill him. There were places for stoning, and these were outside the gates of the city. There were places for crucifixion, and these were outside the city.

Today, God is calling us to abandon the works of our hands. To sell what we have built, and to sell what we possess to make us comfortable. God is calling us to stop “managing the gospel” and start trusting the Spirit of God, along with Christ, the Lord of the church, to build His temple, the house not made with hands, His Body on the earth, without our meager and pitiful attempts to help. What we don’t need are men who gather together and begin new and exciting ways and means to create for God, and who seek to organize, program and structure their own ways of doing church.

When will we let go of these idolatrous things? It is a struggle, and one Peter went through with great visibility. He was the apostle who suggested to Jesus, after three of them had gone to the mountain with Jesus and saw Him transfigured, that they build monuments there to commemorate the event. God’s displeasure was evident in His thundering answer. Peter was a Jew, used to thinking about God as a dweller in houses made by human hands.
Later in his life, Peter, by listening and growing in Christ, had become a man who would accept Gentiles into the church, and who died defending the God who doesn’t dwell in houses made by human hands.

These are hard things for us to learn. But in Christ, who demands our all, we must lay all on the altar, willing to give up our ideas and plans, and in fact, avoid them. It is Christ’s “ekklesia” (the people of God who are called to gather together) and He will not tolerate our meddling, trying to build monuments to our own perception of reality.

The medium is the message. Meaning, we, the carriers of this “Christ-virus”, must just be Christ to those around us. That is the purest Way. Christ in you is the only hope of glory.
Our big churches and full calendars only taint the gospel, fashioning it in our own image.



THE NARROW GATE: NOTHING WE BUILD CAN HOUSE THE PRESENCE OF GOD.
 
Feb 17, 2010
3,620
27
0
#2
I have often asked myself, why is it that I am only really close to God when I sit by myself? When I sit in my office and read the Word of God, placing me right there in Jerusalem next to Jesus, it is then when I am most at peace. It is then when I know I am learnng from the Master Himself. There is so much pain in this world. Look in the eyes of the people you see today, LOOK IN THEIR eyes. I hpw God shows you what HE sees.

I looked in my eyess just now, and I see a tired pair of eyes. Tired and bloodshot. I think of when was my Lord's eyes tired, or when was my brothers eyes tired when they were with the Lord. It was at the end of HIS teachings. When Jeus asked the father.... Let this cup passeth me by, but not my will thou will be done Father.... They fell asleep every time Jesus left them to pray by Himself. Well I am there now. I am tired and CANNOT keep up with my Lord, when He wants me too. But like them, I have hope, that he will EMPOWER me from above, to NEVER fall behind again.

I love reading things that encourage the new Truth disciples.... And this is the encouragement.... God completes us all! Because God can only be pleased by the fullness of what is in Christ Jesus. That means God will remove our stoney hearts and He will place in us a fleshly heart, and HIS Spirit, to unite us with HIMSELF, right here on earth!

He did it with His Apostles first, and He does it to ALL He saves from evil. To what extend it seems to start big arguments, so I will not go there now. But let me tell you, Jesus promises many things, and one is this... That He will give a peace that even surpass the human mind, and that peace cannot be desturbed, becasue He is the KEEPER therof. When I have that peace, I WILL REST!

May God bless all you who read this with this promised peace. And Lord please do not forget me and my hearts desire... I just want to rest in You Lord!
Amen!
 

pickles

Senior Member
Apr 20, 2009
14,479
182
63
#3
A good and thoughtful post.
While reading I considered that this speaks more to the house we live in, the temple.
That our own flesh cannot hold God, so Jesus , through His sacrifice, bought us a body, temple , which is made of His spirit.
So that He , can reside in us, in Him, God 's Holy Spirit may live in us, a temple made not by human hands, but by the sacrifice of Jesus .
All who love God and in faith are now of Jesus, may live still in the world, but are no longer of the world.
So the things of the world will no longer have any hold on us.

Thankyou Dear Jesus!

God bless.
pickles