Obedience & righteousness - extreme grace version
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Peter, I haven't been here in quite a few weeks. I am surprised to see you are back in the same place as when I left...
I haven't read but the first two posts in here, so I don't know who EG is, so I certainly can't speak there.
But you still seem to be missing the one vital point that seems to be keeping you from seeing that some you think are your enemies are really not.
Obedience is very important.
No one thinks the law is not important or that obedience is not important.
In fact, it is only through Christ in us and the renewing of our minds and hearts that the law CAN be kept.
I just don't know what else can be said. You insist on making some to be your enemies when they are not.
Christ is the end of the law for righteousness.
He is not the end of law. How would that even be possible? Gods word is eternal.
He is not the end of the law. He is the end of the law for righteousness.
In fact, it never was the law that made a man righteous in Gods sight.
It was faith.
Why return to the law for righteousness when it never WAS what made a man righteous in Gods sight?
If Christ fulfills the law in each of us with the renewing of our minds and hearts through the Spirits guidance, what law do you think is being broken?
He doesn't renew our minds and hearts in one split second. He has many things to say to us and He says them as we are able to bear them. As He does, we change our minds on these things. In this way, from faith to faith and glory to glory we are being transformed more and more into the likeness of Christ.
How is that disobedience?
I haven't read but the first two posts in here, so I don't know who EG is, so I certainly can't speak there.
But you still seem to be missing the one vital point that seems to be keeping you from seeing that some you think are your enemies are really not.
Obedience is very important.
No one thinks the law is not important or that obedience is not important.
In fact, it is only through Christ in us and the renewing of our minds and hearts that the law CAN be kept.
I just don't know what else can be said. You insist on making some to be your enemies when they are not.
Christ is the end of the law for righteousness.
He is not the end of law. How would that even be possible? Gods word is eternal.
He is not the end of the law. He is the end of the law for righteousness.
In fact, it never was the law that made a man righteous in Gods sight.
It was faith.
Why return to the law for righteousness when it never WAS what made a man righteous in Gods sight?
If Christ fulfills the law in each of us with the renewing of our minds and hearts through the Spirits guidance, what law do you think is being broken?
He doesn't renew our minds and hearts in one split second. He has many things to say to us and He says them as we are able to bear them. As He does, we change our minds on these things. In this way, from faith to faith and glory to glory we are being transformed more and more into the likeness of Christ.
How is that disobedience?
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Actually that was directed to the whole room. it was a general question. Do you have an answer as to why anyone would believe it considering that passage?
So what happens when you start to get defensive?
All you had to do is say, I do not believe this, But ....(insert whatever you would like to say)
Perhaps you need to learn how to properly use the forum then, and only quote people when you are addressing them, and not quoting someone to address the whole board with an open question, or else be explicit so that you cannot turn around later and say you were doing something other than what looks obvious to everyone but you.
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I did not know it was a link. All it said was post 403.
Thats prety sad you assumed I would know that it was a link.. and you get mad when I did not?? see what I mean
And now that I clicked.
Quote EG post number 30 in that thread.
so I am confused, I admited with you, that jesus never said (according to what is recorded in the gospels and acts) the word homosexual and called it sin.
And I am supposed to apologize? For what?
I am confused,
Thats prety sad you assumed I would know that it was a link.. and you get mad when I did not?? see what I mean
And now that I clicked.
Quote EG post number 30 in that thread.
so I am confused, I admited with you, that jesus never said (according to what is recorded in the gospels and acts) the word homosexual and called it sin.
And I am supposed to apologize? For what?
I am confused,
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smh
it is obvious you have something against me, you have for awhile.
I do it all the time, ask anyone in the room, look at alot of my posts..I quote Grace, or blain, or crossnote, and ask general questions, not really directed to that person.
You could have just said, I do not believe people can lose salvation, So I do not know why people would think that with this verse as it is written.
Everyone knows you hate me, So please. put me on ignore.
it is obvious you have something against me, you have for awhile.
I do it all the time, ask anyone in the room, look at alot of my posts..I quote Grace, or blain, or crossnote, and ask general questions, not really directed to that person.
You could have just said, I do not believe people can lose salvation, So I do not know why people would think that with this verse as it is written.
Everyone knows you hate me, So please. put me on ignore.
Why do you falsely accuse me of getting mad when I explain that I had linked to another thread? A thread where you and others carried on slandering me and gossiping about me long after I had stopped being active in that thread. And now you would like us to believe that you apologize when you are wrong, all the time. LOL. Are you sure you even know what being wrong entails? So far I see no evidence of it.
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