Obedience

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resurrection33

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FreeNChrist said:
What does that mean?
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It means that God is a Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, just like a man can be a father, son, husband, lawyer, and other things, all at once. The Father is the Creator. The Son is Jesus Christ. The Holy Spirit is God when he speaks to us.
 
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resurrection33 said:
It means that God is a Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, just like a man can be a father, son, husband, lawyer, and other things, all at once. The Father is the Creator. The Son is Jesus Christ. The Holy Spirit is God when he speaks to us.
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Exactly, which is a denial of the Trinity. God is not a father, a son and a Holy Spirit. God is the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.
 
resurrection33

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FreeNChrist said:
Exactly, which is a denial of the Trinity. God is not a father, a son and a Holy Spirit. God is the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.
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No, I believe in a Trinity. I just don't believe in three Gods.
 
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resurrection33 said:
No, I believe in a Trinity. I just don't believe in three Gods.
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Just calling what you believe "a Trinity" does not make what you believe the same as what Christians believe. It's not. And that is your heresy.
 
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FreeNChrist said:
Exactly, which is a denial of the Trinity. God is not a father, a son and a Holy Spirit. God is the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.
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I did not say that God is a father. I said that he is a Father. I did not say he is a son. I said he is a Son. Misquoting me is becoming a habit for you.
 
resurrection33

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FreeNChrist said:
Just calling what you believe "a Trinity" does not make what you believe the same as what Christians believe. It's not. And that is your heresy.
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People disagree on things. I believe in one God who is a Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. You believe there are three different beings. I think it's an honest disagreement. It seems strange to me that you would accuse me of heresy because of this.
 
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resurrection33 said:
One that can't be put into words.
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Ok and just so you know I'm not getting at you.

Someone says to you I am not a believer, but you tell me because of your faith in Jesus you have or at peace.

Why do you have peace? Can I have this peace? How does it work?
 
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resurrection33 said:
People disagree on things. I believe in one God who is a Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. You believe there are three different beings. I think it's an honest disagreement. It seems strange to me that you would accuse me of heresy because of this.
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Because, its heresy. The very definition of heresy. The denial of the Christian understanding of the nature of God as The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, One God in three Persons has always been considered heresy. That's just the way it is.
 
BillG

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I'm sorry chaps but how on earth have we come from the post of obedience to a discussion on the Trinity?
 
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FreeNChrist said:
Because, its heresy. The very definition of heresy. The denial of the Christian understanding of the nature of God as The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, One God in three Persons has always been considered heresy. That's just the way it is.
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You carry so much anger.
 
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resurrection33 said:
I did not say that God is a father. I said that he is a Father. I did not say he is a son. I said he is a Son. Misquoting me is becoming a habit for you.
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I'm not playing that game with you. Your belief is heretical, which makes you a heretic.
 
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BillG said:
Ok and just so you know I'm not getting at you.

Someone says to you I am not a believer, but you tell me because of your faith in Jesus you have or at peace.

Why do you have peace? Can I have this peace? How does it work?
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God created a world that is full of peace - we just need to obey the Lord's commandments. We can all have it. That's the way the Lord wants it.
 
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resurrection33 said:
Well, let's look at adultery. The Lord told us not to indulge in that activity. Why would we disobey?
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You might only refrain from it because you were commanded not to do it. And I might not do it because I wouldn't want to hurt my Father.
 
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BillG said:
I'm sorry chaps but how on earth have we come from the post of obedience to a discussion on the Trinity?
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I think FreeNChrist is trying to make me look bad. We apparently have a different understanding of the Trinity and he's using that to paint me as a heretic.
 
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