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My family and I just switched to a new church in April, and their high school ministry is amazing. I've never seen so many kids who just loved God with everything they've got. I really want to have the same passion as them for God, but my walk has felt stale for a long while. I don't comprehend how people can have that much love and adoration for Christ ( like it's something beyond me). SOmehow there's always something to distract me (and what irks me the most is that I care way too much about how people think of me.) So, basically, just curious: how are some people totally on fire for God?
 
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My family and I just switched to a new church in April, and their high school ministry is amazing. I've never seen so many kids who just loved God with everything they've got. I really want to have the same passion as them for God, but my walk has felt stale for a long while. I don't comprehend how people can have that much love and adoration for Christ ( like it's something beyond me). SOmehow there's always something to distract me (and what irks me the most is that I care way too much about how people think of me.) So, basically, just curious: how are some people totally on fire for God?
Bible says that the 'heart is above all things deceitful and wicked', emotions are not to be trusted as much as God given reason, God says "Come reason with Me". It reminds me of when Moses got God to repent, I mean can you imagine that, Moses actually told God to reconsider and repent!!! You would have to be fairly good terms to tell God to repent, but God thought about what Moses said, and He repented, there is nothing wrong with questioning, Moses questioned God, and God gave Him an honest answer, God said 'well perhaps your right Moses, I take back My judgement, you convinced Me otherwise'...There is lots of emotion towards God, lots of singing and dancing, and tears and smiles, and joy, but if were all so close to God and His way, then why is our world in such disgracefull mess, such deception such lies, such corruption, oh but so many people close to God, 'feeling God', 'on fire for God'!

It is my opinion that we have never been so far away from God, not exactly the time to start celebrating, were in a whole lot of trouble... time to reason now, time to think, time to reconsider.
 
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Kite, that's amazing! The term for such ''love and adoration'' is called being humble, but if you look up humble it leads you to the word humility...which means a freedom from arrogance that grows out of the recognition that all we have and are comes from God. Also, another word for how they are is called reverance...having reverance for God to be more specific, which means:a feeling of profound awe and respect.Because of His majesty and holiness, God arouses a feeling of reverace in those who worship and serve Him.(Hebrews 12:28-29). It's amazing isn't it?! Also, those are true Christians, and the youth have much more ''flame in the fire'' so to speak. We can't limit God! They still have a pure heart, as they're not out in the real world as adults are, but, they do have a harder life than when we were all teens ourselves.

As for what Cup-Of-Ruin said to you, granted the world is worse than ever, there's true God-fearing and God-loving Christians out there today. As I said before, we can't limit God. Who are we to judge and say that those people are fake? They might be, but they might not be. Odds are, they're real, you can't fake a passion, love, desire, seeking God's face, etc. etc.! When the Holy Spirit gets into the heart, works, and has a hold on someone, they can't fake it they just can't! While I give him credit for what he said on parts, other parts I disagree with, and here's the reason for that. NOW IS the time to celebrate, God's going to and is using the younger generation(s) to wake up the world. To move in ways never seen and known to man before. Remember, Jesus said ''let no man despise thy youth; but be thou an example of the belivers, in word, in conversation, in charity, in spirit, in faith, in purity'' 2 Timothy 4:12. Also, back in Jeremiah 1:6-8 it says ''Then said I, Ah, Lord God! behold I cannot speak; for I am a child. But the LORD said unto me, Say not, I am a child: for thou shalt go to all that I shall send thee, and whatsoever I ommand thee thou shalt speak. Be not afraid of their faces: for I am with theee to deliver thee, saith the LORD''. Matthew 28:20 says ''Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.'' Jesus spoke those words.

There's many in the Bible, that God used in mighty ways and they were just youth! For they haven't seen and lived a life that we have just yet, but eventually they will as the mature even more. I have a very high level of respect for children and teens, even young adults(I myself fall into this catagory) because they/we have NEVER faced such persecution as there is today, and it will only get worse before it gets better.I myself love to feel and be on fire for God, to sing, to shout, to worship, to praise, to honor, and to glorify HIM! Lastly, I just want to say this. Yesthe heart CAN be decitful, BUT if we have our heart focused on God, then it can't be, or it won't be as bad. Remember Jesus said ''Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and ruse doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal: But lay up for yourselves in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break throuth, nor steal:For where your treasure is there your heart be also.'' Matthew 6:17-21.

We need to, (and I do) pray that God just remove any and all things that are ungoldy, unrighteous, and not of His will and desire for me, and replace it all with what IS Godly, righteous,of Him, and His will for me. To help me keep my eyes, heart, soul, spirit, and every single part of my being focused on Him and not the world, the things/people in it! Peace and much love to all, God bless! Keep your chin up, don't let others bring you down! (others in general, no one specific, for the record).
 
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Thank you both very much! I guess that was what I was kind of thinking, the part where we need to focus our hearts on God...thanks again! <=)
 
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My family and I just switched to a new church in April, and their high school ministry is amazing. I've never seen so many kids who just loved God with everything they've got. I really want to have the same passion as them for God, but my walk has felt stale for a long while. I don't comprehend how people can have that much love and adoration for Christ ( like it's something beyond me). SOmehow there's always something to distract me (and what irks me the most is that I care way too much about how people think of me.) So, basically, just curious: how are some people totally on fire for God?
to be on fire for God is great, but where you are at, is just as good if not better. you are not luke warm, because you are not content where you are. I know Paul said that whatever state he was in he had learned to be content, but that was his surroundings not his walk, for Paul also said that he pressed toward the mark of the high calling, If you had said that you were the only one at your new church that is on fire on for Jesus, then I would worry about you. those on fire sometimes become content and quit pressing in and soon the flames becomes coals. I pray that this is not the case at your church but alot of times the ones on fire are just putting on a good show. teens are real good at this, you know while around adults acting like the adults want them to. but I have seen a few that are sold out, for Christ. I would rather be sold out totally and struggling as you, than to be on fire and thinking I have arrived or doing it so you can fool someone. I will warn you to look for social clicks within the teens for I have been around enough teen groups to say that if there are social clicks within the group then the fire is not real, there is sin in the camp and whatever we sow we will reap, and trouble is just around the corner. not to be the bearer of bad news, but have seen so many lower- middle class teens get crushed and get completely out of church.

Father stir up the flames that they never die down as you stir up the gifts. keep your hand on this ministry and all minstries that are your true flames.


2ti 1:6Wherefore I put thee in remembrance that thou stir up the gift of God, which is in thee by the putting on of my hands.
 
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NOTE: This isn't directed towards anyone specific, just a general thing.

I'm glad others just KNOW the hearts of others, based on past experiences, I mean come on! It's totally unfair to judge and assume things like that about others, you don't even know. Let God do the judging, all we can do is look at the fruit they bare. I know plenty of teens and young adults that are real, and the older ones seem more fake than anything these days. Sin is all around, we all sin daily, it's totally unfair to blame certain people based on age or anything else. We should keep an open mind and heart. Love,see,and accept all others equally, and just how Jesus does for all of us.

I mean it's just like no wonder so many Christians are down about things, they're persecuated by fellow Christians by so much negativity around them, and that generates off onto them and drags them down.We need to be uplifting,encouraging, and inspiring one another through the love of Christ.It's like a fire, one coal is all it takes to start the rest.One gets on fire, the rest will too. However, the effects can be devestating as well, all those cold ones around, can lead to the one or few that are on fire, and make them cold.

So with Christians, all it takes is one ''bad apple'' to ruin everything for the whole church.apple, or coal, or whatever you wanna call it, mix it up a bit, apples and oraanges, they don't go good together! Gotta work things out and say hey, lets get on the same page here, and stop juding one another, work together, and get along. Clean around our own backdoor step before we do so to others.

Jesus is the ''match'' to start the fire, we're the coals. Let His light shine, let Him set us ablaze with His mighty power, and the Holy Spirit. Remember, ''Quench not the Spirit.'' (1 Thessalonians 5:19).

Love and peace to all, God bless. :)
 

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NOTE: This isn't directed towards anyone specific, just a general thing.

I'm glad others just KNOW the hearts of others, based on past experiences, I mean come on! It's totally unfair to judge and assume things like that about others, you don't even know. Let God do the judging, all we can do is look at the fruit they bare. I know plenty of teens and young adults that are real, and the older ones seem more fake than anything these days. Sin is all around, we all sin daily, it's totally unfair to blame certain people based on age or anything else. We should keep an open mind and heart. Love,see,and accept all others equally, and just how Jesus does for all of us.

I mean it's just like no wonder so many Christians are down about things, they're persecuated by fellow Christians by so much negativity around them, and that generates off onto them and drags them down.We need to be uplifting,encouraging, and inspiring one another through the love of Christ.It's like a fire, one coal is all it takes to start the rest.One gets on fire, the rest will too. However, the effects can be devestating as well, all those cold ones around, can lead to the one or few that are on fire, and make them cold.

So with Christians, all it takes is one ''bad apple'' to ruin everything for the whole church.apple, or coal, or whatever you wanna call it, mix it up a bit, apples and oraanges, they don't go good together! Gotta work things out and say hey, lets get on the same page here, and stop juding one another, work together, and get along. Clean around our own backdoor step before we do so to others.

Jesus is the ''match'' to start the fire, we're the coals. Let His light shine, let Him set us ablaze with His mighty power, and the Holy Spirit. Remember, ''Quench not the Spirit.'' (1 Thessalonians 5:19).

Love and peace to all, God bless. :)
I want to complement you for both posts you have made here. God has given you good wisdom, much grace and understanding in Christ that is practical, balanced and edifying. Keep going on in that wisdom and grace. So many let grace save them but they can't walk in it toward others. What that means is that they are not in a position of humility to receive it (James 4:6, 1Pt 5:5) and if you can't receive it you surely can't give it to others. God has put us under grace and not under the law (Rom 6:14), so when we minister to others we minister to them as being under grace. The law says this and that, but grace and truth ministers through the Spirit of life. Those that remain under the law will only strengthen sin (1Cor 15:26). We were not saved by the law or by the righteousness of the law, we were saved by grace and truth through Christ and Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone that believes ( Eph 2:8,9, Rom 10:4).

Those that are lukewarm are those who have stopped receiving and growing in grace. They may be good people but they have a ministry of death and condemnation through the letter of the law instead of life through the Spirit (2Cor 3:6). They don't realize it because even though they have the NT, part of the vail is still there over their heart and they do not have the liberty to minister grace. They have to turn all the way to the Lord and receive grace so that the vail can be completely taken away (2Cor 3:16,17), so that they can be free to be under grace and not under any influence of the law without it. The fire of God's love burns in our heart because the Holy Spirit is able to shed that love in our hearts through grace and not the law. If the Holy Spirit has been grieved or quenched, the fire goes out. If that happens we humble ourselves before God, receive grace and let the Holy Spirit stoke the fire. Fire is a good thing because our God is a consuming fire (Deut 4:21, Heb 12:29).
 
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I just want to share my personal experience here.

I believe God reaches out to people in different ways. Some can turn to Him easily, others need a swift kick in the butt. I am one of those who needed a swift kick in the butt. Until recently, I had been surrounding myself by worldly things, and God was always on the back burner. I ended up with a health scare, and it really opened up my eyes to how short our time here on Earth is. I turned to God for help, and recommited myself to Him. I'm relying on him to protect me and in turn, I'm on fire for him!
 
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So, basically, just curious: how are some people totally on fire for God?
Sound biblical teachings, the willingness to be a doer of God's Word and serving Christ by serving others brings this joy that you are referring to as being on fire for God.

I've heard it put this way. The way to achieve this joy is by prioritizing your relationships in this order:

J: Jesus

O: Others

Y: You

Remember, being on fire or having this joy is not to be confused with the emotion of being happy:

Heb 12:2
2 looking unto Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith, who for the joy that was set before Him endured the cross, despising the shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.

See, Christ was on fire for the Glory of God and even in the midst of the cross remained joyful or on fire despite the circumstances.

Give this new Church a chance and I'm sure God will use the ministers there to touch you the same way He has touched these other youth.
 
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I want to complement you for both posts you have made here. God has given you good wisdom, much grace and understanding in Christ that is practical, balanced and edifying. Keep going on in that wisdom and grace. So many let grace save them but they can't walk in it toward others. What that means is that they are not in a position of humility to receive it (James 4:6, 1Pt 5:5) and if you can't receive it you surely can't give it to others. God has put us under grace and not under the law (Rom 6:14), so when we minister to others we minister to them as being under grace. The law says this and that, but grace and truth ministers through the Spirit of life. Those that remain under the law will only strengthen sin (1Cor 15:26). We were not saved by the law or by the righteousness of the law, we were saved by grace and truth through Christ and Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone that believes ( Eph 2:8,9, Rom 10:4).

Those that are lukewarm are those who have stopped receiving and growing in grace. They may be good people but they have a ministry of death and condemnation through the letter of the law instead of life through the Spirit (2Cor 3:6). They don't realize it because even though they have the NT, part of the vail is still there over their heart and they do not have the liberty to minister grace. They have to turn all the way to the Lord and receive grace so that the vail can be completely taken away (2Cor 3:16,17), so that they can be free to be under grace and not under any influence of the law without it. The fire of God's love burns in our heart because the Holy Spirit is able to shed that love in our hearts through grace and not the law. If the Holy Spirit has been grieved or quenched, the fire goes out. If that happens we humble ourselves before God, receive grace and let the Holy Spirit stoke the fire. Fire is a good thing because our God is a consuming fire (Deut 4:21, Heb 12:29).

Why thank you sir, and I agree with you. Lets just pray for them, and for ourselves as well. God bless!
 
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Not that I am responding to a certain post , but just in general. LOL
First I said that I knew some teens that were sold out, I would rather see someone sold out for God, who have completely surrendered their life to Jesus and truely made Him Lord, than to see some one red hot, what is the difference, those that are sold out do things behind the scenes. they do things because they love God, not for their own Glory, and yes this includes adults as well as teens. the only reason I responded about tenns is because of the thread being about a high school group. are they going to nursing homes when they away from the crowd, do they really hounor their parents, there is more to worshipping God than being pump up while at church, Now I never said that this group was not , but rather gave a warning sign to watch out for. do the teens act like christians when they are not at church. maybe the teens act church is because they have watched the adults in their life. but they want better houses than their parents , better paying jobs than their parents, why not a closer walk with God than their parents , a more holier, righteous God pleasing walk than their parents. and some do but over all most will make the same mistakes as their elders make , but if by preaching this i can open the eyes to just one person , then I don't care what you think about me, if i can help one person from making the same stupid mistakes that I did, and God said his word would not go out void But when you see things I have over the years, for example when 20 teens (on fire) go through a true love waits program, where 20 teens vow to God that they will wait til marriage and within 1 year after completing the program seven are giong to be moms or dads while still in high school, you realize that evn though they say teens are much smarter today than ever, that they still are capable of making the same stupid mistakes over and over again. you reap what you sow I want go into how many of the same (on fire) group wound up in trouble with the law, or on drugs, or drunks later on in life.


Ro 12:1I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.Ro 12:2And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

and if you will notice I did pray for them.
 
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As I said, it wasn't directed towards anyone specific, because there has been talk about this in chat, on different things such as IM's and all that. really there's not a difference, if you're sold out to Jesus, then you're on fire for Him. That's have I've always been at least.

On another note, lets talk about something. Making the same mistakes parents and elders have. Okay my dad chose drugs, drinking, women, etc. over my sis and I, and our mom chose men, sex, drugs, drinking, patrying, etc. over us. Did I ever do any of those things? No I most certainly didn't. They were violent with one another, neglectful to us, they even abandoned us.

My sister is a wife, mother, college student, and works as well. She graduated high school with honors and the hope grant as well. I graduated with a GED for medical reasons I had to leave high school. Neither of our parents finished school. Neither of them are Christians, we had/have seen the ways they are in life, however, we chose not to be like them. That's not who we are or who God wants us to be. We're both Christians, as is her daughter who is now 6 and accepted Christ when she was 5.

Neither of us have ever done drugs or anything else. Is my sister on fire for God/sold out for Him? I can't say as she lives her own life and doesn't live with me, am I sold out/on fire for Him? TOTALLY! You MUST be sold out by totally surrendering to God yes, and when you do that, then you're on fire for Him as it's not about yourself. I've always known,followed, and believed that. This is how I've always lived life, and I do understand your reason for talking about teens and all. As I said it wasn't anything personal or directed towards anyone specifically, just a general thing. This topic is very often talked about as it should be. I've gotten a blessing from it really, as God has laid on my heart how so many don't know what true humility and reverance for God is and they don't have it for Him either. That's a serious concern, at least for me it is!

Anyways, I'm sorry you took it personally, as that's not at all how it was meant sir, so yeah, God bless.
 
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Anyways, I'm sorry you took it personally, as that's not at all how it was meant sir, so yeah, God bless.
no need to apologize here, but i started my thread the same way you did and you took it personal. but according to your picture your life has just began , and I for one am proud of you for seeing the errs of your parents and choosing a better way for you. but as I said Your life has just begun , my advice/ warning either how you want to take it. is to stay real close to Jesus, and don't think you are any better than your parents, for without Christ there goes youRo 12:3For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the MEASURE of faith.
 
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no need to apologize here, but i started my thread the same way you did and you took it personal. but according to your picture your life has just began , and I for one am proud of you for seeing the errs of your parents and choosing a better way for you. but as I said Your life has just begun , my advice/ warning either how you want to take it. is to stay real close to Jesus, and don't think you are any better than your parents, for without Christ there goes youRo 12:3For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the MEASURE of faith.

Well sir, I never have and never will think I'm better than my parents. Do I have a better life than them? oh yes for sure as I have Christ, and if given the chance I will witness to them. I do with my mom all the time, but not in a forceful way. Dad is a different story, I have no idea where he is. It's not easy to witness to a mother that won't speak to you, ignores, disowns, and denies you as her child. However with God all things are possible. I have but haven't just begun in life, I'm 22 now. Yes that's young, however, I've been through enough in life, to know things :) in fact, honestly, you name it, I've been through it. I feel so much older than I really am, that's what life, and God can do for you though ^_^. Anyhow, I understand what you're saying, I re-read it, I was falling asleep the first time I read it. Also, I didn't take what you said personal, sorry it came across that way. It was honestly just an in general type of thing as this issue has been everywhere. At any rate, with respect, and God's blessing your way, be blessed always.
 
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Well sir, I never have and never will think I'm better than my parents. Do I have a better life than them? oh yes for sure as I have Christ, and if given the chance I will witness to them. I do with my mom all the time, but not in a forceful way. Dad is a different story, I have no idea where he is. It's not easy to witness to a mother that won't speak to you, ignores, disowns, and denies you as her child. However with God all things are possible. I have but haven't just begun in life, I'm 22 now. Yes that's young, however, I've been through enough in life, to know things :) in fact, honestly, you name it, I've been through it. I feel so much older than I really am, that's what life, and God can do for you though ^_^. Anyhow, I understand what you're saying, I re-read it, I was falling asleep the first time I read it. Also, I didn't take what you said personal, sorry it came across that way. It was honestly just an in general type of thing as this issue has been everywhere. At any rate, with respect, and God's blessing your way, be blessed always.
God bless you also
 
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