On the Day of Destruction

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Kolistus

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#41
which prophesies would you like? Babylon captivity was a big one, birth of Cyrus and God's plan for him, the birth of Christ.......et all
Subject is too broad to tackle them all at one post.
Zechariah 14 comes to mind, when did it take place?
 

Keras

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#42
I see, so can I understand your doctrine as:

Instead of the body of Christ replacing Israel,

but rather it was ordained by God from the beginning of time that "the Body of Christ is the true Israel, and that the true Israel is spiritual Israel"?
Correct.
But the true Israelites will soon become a physical nation in all of the holy Land. Isaiah 62:1-5, Romans 9:24-26
 

GraceAndTruth

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#43
...how about where the scriptures reject the rapture?
726. ἁρπάζω (harpazó) properly, seize by force; snatch up, suddenly and decisively – like someone seizing bounty (spoil, a prize); to take by an open display of force (i.e. not covertly or secretly).


1 Thessalonians 4:16-19 (the Greek word harpazo is translated in this verse as 'caught up'
For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, withthe trumpet of God; and the dead in Christ shall rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall beair CAUGHT UP together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and thus we shall always be with the Lord
 

Kolistus

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#45
History of Josephus, book 13 ....events took place during the seige when the temple was destroyed in AD70
Nothing in josephus about mount of olives splitting in two, nothing about nations flocking to Jerusalem, nothing about Lord being God over all the earth. Nothing about ALL NATIONS gathering against Jerusalem, it was just one nation, the romans, and in Zechariah 14 the romans are defeated; in 70AD the romans were not defeated.
 

Lookupnotback

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#46
726. ἁρπάζω (harpazó) properly, seize by force; snatch up, suddenly and decisively – like someone seizing bounty (spoil, a prize); to take by an open display of force (i.e. not covertly or secretly).


1 Thessalonians 4:16-19 (the Greek word harpazo is translated in this verse as 'caught up'
For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, withthe trumpet of God; and the dead in Christ shall rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall beair CAUGHT UP together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and thus we shall always be with the Lord
...yet before this event is one your choosing to overlook
726. ἁρπάζω (harpazó) properly, seize by force; snatch up, suddenly and decisively – like someone seizing bounty (spoil, a prize); to take by an open display of force (i.e. not covertly or secretly).


1 Thessalonians 4:16-19 (the Greek word harpazo is translated in this verse as 'caught up'
For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, withthe trumpet of God; and the dead in Christ shall rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall beair CAUGHT UP together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and thus we shall always be with the Lord
...and again for you, when will you stop and watch this?
 
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Correct.
But the true Israelites will soon become a physical nation in all of the holy Land. Isaiah 62:1-5, Romans 9:24-26
I see, thanks for clarifying
 

Keras

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#48
I see, thanks for clarifying
Note; that I said: Israelites. Not Israelis, the Jewish, Arab and mixed race peoples currently occupying a small portion of the holy Land.

When the Israelis have gone, as is prophesied; the people who will gather to live in all of the holy Land, will be righteous Christian believers. Isaiah 35:1-10, Ezekiel 34:11-16, Romans 9:24-26, +