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Yeah well ive seen people walk in the spirit and then fall back into evil just by givinng in. and they loose themselve or theyre life. Theres always a flip side and I do not want people to forget that
I love it. A young woman being able to correct bad doctrine.

​At [that] same time [Jesus] rejoiced in the Holy Spirit and said, “I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that you have hidden these [things] from the wise and intelligent and have revealed them to young children. Yes, Father, for this was pleasing before you. Luke 10:21

And wisdom is vindicated by all her children.” Luke 7:35
 

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I must ask sis,

Are you sinless?

If your not.

As you said,


speaks of you also.
We can not seperate sins, That is what the pharisees did, They did not commit these pet sin, so they thought they were righteous While they ignored the sins they did commit, and thought they were ok.

James said if we break the least of the law. we are guilty of it all.


A lie in Gods eyes is just as bad as murder. So we are all in the same boat. there ae non righteous, no not one.

now a so called christian who practices witchcraft. I would doubt they were ever saved, Why would you go to that unless that is what you had faith in to begin with?
Well I can tell you right now with my hand on my heart that I will never call myself sinless
I am a sinner and the Lord is working on me daily and I always fall back on my nose
and he gets me back up.
Well I only took witchcraft as example because:
1. I got out of it and I know how it changes a person and the transformation that God does when he gets you out of it. And how tempting it is to fallback (Which i havent because I am waaay to scared of the wrath of God because he IS a jealous God.
2. Seen people fall back and losse themselves
3. Seen people that never got out of it even in my family

And I think its a good example to bring in because theres more christians than you think that read horoscopes and think its ok. and and and
 

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Ephesians 1:13-14

13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.

Through my belief in the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit seals me for the day of redemption, not by works. Works is not mentioned at all in the passage. The Holy Spirit is my guarantee that I will see the day of redemption.

Ephesians 4:30, "And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption."

Again, I am sealed unto the day of redemption. How can I grieve the Holy Spirit? By living carnally, worldly, and not walking after the same Spirit that seals me.
 

Demi777

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I love it. A young woman being able to correct bad doctrine.
​At [that] same time [Jesus] rejoiced in the Holy Spirit and said, “I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that you have hidden these [things] from the wise and intelligent and have revealed them to young children. Yes, Father, for this was pleasing before you. Luke 10:21

And wisdom is vindicated by all her children.” Luke 7:35
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Hebrews 10 is an excellent chapter pointing to the importance of the blood sacrifice of Christ in salvation:

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For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.

2 For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins.
3 But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year.
4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.
5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:
6 In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure.
7 Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.
8 Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law;
9 Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.
10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
11 And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins:
12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;
13 From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool.
14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.
15 Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before,
16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.
18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.
19 Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus,
20 By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;
21 And having an high priest over the house of God;
22 Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.
23 Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; for he is faithful that promised

Faith must be in the blood of the Lamb of God for salvation! Add works to that depreciates the saving power of the blood!
 

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Hebrews 10 is an excellent chapter pointing to the importance of the blood sacrifice of Christ in salvation:

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For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.

2 For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins.
3 But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year.
4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.
5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:
6 In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure.
7 Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.
8 Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law;
9 Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.
10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
11 And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins:
12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;
13 From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool.
14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.
15 Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before,
16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.
18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.
19 Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus,
20 By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;
21 And having an high priest over the house of God;
22 Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.
23 Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; for he is faithful that promised

Faith must be in the blood of the Lamb of God for salvation! Add works to that depreciates the saving power of the blood!
Ok lets just Roar it out..just roar it out,, I think we all know about the power of the blood but thanks. I like them verses :)
 
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Ok lets just Roar it out..just roar it out,, I think we all know about the power of the blood but thanks. I like them verses :)
My friend, the Lord will give you strength in your Christian walk. Just remember the blood of Christ and what He has done for you!:)

Recall the Psalm:

"For a just man falleth seven times, and riseth up again: but the wicked shall fall into mischief." Pro 24:16

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e is the one who upholds you when you fall! I admire the fact you want to please the Lord. We need more people like yourself around! Lord bless you!
 

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Yeah well ive seen people walk in the spirit and then fall back into evil just by givinng in. and they loose themselve or theyre life. Theres always a flip side and I do not want people to forget that
Please don't misunderstand me. There are always consequences to sin. And the Lord May even allow the evil one to take your physical life because of it, but one of the consequences will not be lost Salvation.

He will not leave you. That's a promise from the Creator of the universe!
 

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My friend, the Lord will give you strength in your Christian walk. Just remember the blood of Christ and what He has done for you!:)

Recall the Psalm:

"For a just man falleth seven times, and riseth up again: but the wicked shall fall into mischief." Pro 24:16

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e is the one who upholds you when you fall! I admire the fact you want to please the Lord. We need more people like yourself around! Lord bless you!

Yes I agree. from all people in my school im the only one who lays on hands and prays and does lol We need more of my kind especially in my age that would make days most definately cool.
But still its noticeable that he doenst just raise me up he also protect me strongly. From all people that dislike God for a reason or the other people see he lives in me and respect me. I used to be the person that always gets picked on and now in the person that gets the most hugs, love and respect from all people and spreads it lol
 
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Well I can tell you right now with my hand on my heart that I will never call myself sinless
I am a sinner and the Lord is working on me daily and I always fall back on my nose
and he gets me back up.
We both are in the same boat. The more I mature in Christ, the more I see the sin in my life.


Well I only took witchcraft as example because:
1. I got out of it and I know how it changes a person and the transformation that God does when he gets you out of it. And how tempting it is to fallback (Which i havent because I am waaay to scared of the wrath of God because he IS a jealous God.
2. Seen people fall back and losse themselves
3. Seen people that never got out of it even in my family
Paul said God did not give us a spirit of fear. But a sound mind, and a spirit of adoption whereby we call out abba father (literally daddy)

You do not have to fear God God loves you, He will chasten you. But he will never leave nor forsake you.


And I think its a good example to bring in because theres more christians than you think that read horoscopes and think its ok. and and and
I do not know any sinless Christians, God works on his children that do horoscopes.. If he is not chastenign them, as paul said, they are not true children of God.
 

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Please don't misunderstand me. There are always consequences to sin. And the Lord May even allow the evil one to take your physical life because of it, but one of the consequences will not be lost Salvation.

He will not leave you. That's a promise from the Creator of the universe!
I am not worried about him leaving me. He is always present with me, always noticeable and always with me wherever I go
 
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Yeah well ive seen people walk in the spirit and then fall back into evil just by givinng in. and they loose themselve or theyre life. Theres always a flip side and I do not want people to forget that
They may be prodigal children, Far from their fathers blessings

But they are still children.

We must NEVER forget that, Otherwise, we have no hope
 

Demi777

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My friend, the Lord will give you strength in your Christian walk. Just remember the blood of Christ and what He has done for you!:)

Recall the Psalm:

"For a just man falleth seven times, and riseth up again: but the wicked shall fall into mischief." Pro 24:16

H
e is the one who upholds you when you fall! I admire the fact you want to please the Lord. We need more people like yourself around! Lord bless you!
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He IS my strenght
 
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Are you trying to tell me after receiving the gift of God, and seeing deeply how sinful you were. and how your life apart from God was meaningless. You would even contemplate doing such a thing?

thats like saying I was free falling into a volcano (basically what we all were doing before Christ saved us from the pit of fire) and we decide we want to jump back in again.
Very true.
Yes ,we are GOD's workmanship created In CHRIST unto good works.

Grace doesn't teach a person to want to sin.
 

Demi777

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We both are in the same boat. The more I mature in Christ, the more I see the sin in my life.



Paul said God did not give us a spirit of fear. But a sound mind, and a spirit of adoption whereby we call out abba father (literally daddy)

You do not have to fear God God loves you, He will chasten you. But he will never leave nor forsake you.




I do not know any sinless Christians, God works on his children that do horoscopes.. If he is not chastenign them, as paul said, they are not true children of God.
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Yet Wisdom starts there where the (healthy) fear of God starts
 
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God bless you friends, most of your posts are educative
 
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Wisdom begins with wonder. :)
 

Demi777

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[h=3]Psalm 111:10[/h]The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom; all those who practice it have a good understanding. His praise endures forever!



 
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Yes I agree. from all people in my school im the only one who lays on hands and prays and does lol We need more of my kind especially in my age that would make days most definately cool.
But still its noticeable that he doenst just raise me up he also protect me strongly. From all people that dislike God for a reason or the other people see he lives in me and respect me. I used to be the person that always gets picked on and now in the person that gets the most hugs, love and respect from all people and spreads it lol

The Lord is our strength, amen! Such good truths to meditate on!

"The Lord is my rock, and my fortress, and my deliverer; my God, my strength, in whom I will trust; my buckler, and the horn of my salvation, and my high tower." Psa 18:2

"The
Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?" Psa 27:1

"The Lord is my strength and my shield; my heart trusted in him, and I am helped: therefore my heart greatly rejoiceth; and with my song will I praise him." Psa 28:7

I admire your stand against wickedness my friend!


 
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Demi, I can tell you by painful experience, that the born again Christian that doesn't do as the Holy Spirit directs is miserable. NOT lost.

If you truly are born anew, and you go out and "raise hell", you will be grieving the Holy Spirit. He don't like that! Your new heart, the new creation that you are, don't like that either. ONLY your flesh will like it, and you might have to go through some very rough chastisement and learning.

ALL of that is seconadary to the FACT that Jesus does the saving ANDkeeping. Did He not say that He would NEVER leave you nor forsake you?

How could He leave you then if you are born again?

Peace, Love, and Grace to you.

BTW, I think you are very refreshing and loving toward your brothers and sisters, and are glad you are here.
Yep and sin does have consequences,meaning a person might end up passing on before they wanted to but they are stilll saved.