One of the best videos on tongues I've seen

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An old friend of mine was preaching to a Spanish-speaking audience with an interpreter. So he would speak a line, the interpreter would translate, and then he would speak a line, and so on.

When he got to the gist of his message, which was to see themselves as people of God and not people of the Roman Catholic Church, he spoke several sentences and waited for the interpreter. She looked at him and nodded. He quietly asked her, "Did you not understand what I said?" She answered him, "I understood and so did they (motioning to the audience). You spoke in perfect Spanish."
 
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Runningman said:
That doesn’t directly answer if Jesus spoke in tongues or not. He had literally all of the spiritual gifts according to the gospels, but no record of speaking in tongues. So maybe He did or maybe He didn’t.
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He had no need to, He and the Father were one. We have need.
 
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Dirtman said:
Yep. Sounds about right. Nothing positive or useful, again. Just more ad-hominems

I trust the text of scripture and the Holy Spirit. Definitely a correlation between Pentecost day in Acts and the tower babel.
Even more they desired to make a tower into Heaven which was confounded by God by destroying their language, And now we Have a tower to Heaven in Jesus by the Holy Spirit and language isnt a barrier.
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Zero ad hominen attacks.
Light-n-UP and the Day gets Brighter

You are CORRECT in that there is a correlation between Tower of Babel and Acts
 
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2014?


Look, I don't know anything about Caleb Corneloup other than his YouTube videos. If what he says makes sense and matches scripture I'm on board; otherwise no.

You're clearly out of good arguments to refute him so you take the personal attack route. Very predictable. Why are you so afraid to deal with the ideas rather than the man?
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I have not argued with you at all so how could I be 'out of arguements'? Personally I would not post a video or teaching unless I researched or knew the person first.

Do you agree with the cultish behavior he has presented also? Seriously, he's not reputable.

Try sticking to your op rather than creating silly little ad hominin attacks such as you saying I am afraid. Obviously, I am not afraid .

As a wise person once said, it is possible to discuss the topic rather than the people who respond. Try it.
 
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The_Watchers_2017 said:
hahaha indeed, RA, is not a fan of Speaking in Tongues. he has not really came out and rejected the fact the Church Fathers declares ALL Holy Spirit Gifts are currently Active and remain Active until the Second Coming of Jesus. but he clearly is a skeptic.
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Well we all have hobbies and creating these types of posts appear to be one of his. :)
 
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Runningman said:
That doesn’t directly answer if Jesus spoke in tongues or not. He had literally all of the spiritual gifts according to the gospels, but no record of speaking in tongues. So maybe He did or maybe He didn’t.
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He was the Son of God. Well He still is of course.

Since the gift of tongues came upon the followers of Christ in the upper room on the day of Pentecost, your little red herring is not even an effectual question. It is just one more lame excuse why some people want to dismiss tongues. The Bible does not state anywhere...ANYWHERE...that Jesus was imbued with all the spiritual gifts. Your presumption in stating such, indicates a lack of actual biblical instruction regarding same.
 
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I have not argued with you at all so how could I be 'out of arguements'? Personally I would not post a video or teaching unless I researched or knew the person first.

Do you agree with the cultish behavior he has presented also? Seriously, he's not reputable.

Try sticking to your op rather than creating silly little ad hominin attacks such as you saying I am afraid. Obviously, I am not afraid .

As a wise person once said, it is possible to discuss the topic rather than the people who respond. Try it.
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You want to derail the thread for some reason. Nice try.
 
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Yep. Sounds about right. Nothing positive or useful, again. Just more ad-hominems

I trust the text of scripture and the Holy Spirit. Definitely a correlation between Pentecost day in Acts and the tower babel.
Even more they desired to make a tower into Heaven which was confounded by God by destroying their language, And now we Have a tower to Heaven in Jesus by the Holy Spirit and language isnt a barrier.

Heaven not achieved by workings of man but the workings of man are confounded by God because they are corrupt attempts at self justification, but Heaven is attained through Christ Jesus and His pure works.
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What a believer does in fact have, is the option to believe scripture. Some only believe some of it.

Who has presented self-justification in this thread? (besides you just now) If you cannot provide that post, perhaps you should not try to give the impression that someone has indicated they are trying to justify themself.
 
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You want to derail the thread for some reason. Nice try.
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No one here has missed your disability to say you did not know the dude was a cult leader. See, that is what happens when a person grabs at whatever passing info that seems to indicate agreement with a preconceived notion of some sort.

Your intentions are clear; the dude in question not so much. We all believe you already that you believe tongues are now non-existent...but wait...God can do anything, but probably no tongues because YOU do not believe any are authentic. got it.

And yes yes we know. God also does not heal anyone anymore and anyone who provides testimony indicating healing, you would like them to prove it or get some authority involved to prove it.

Just say sorry and move on. It's ok.
 
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Polar said:
What a believer does in fact have, is the option to believe scripture. Some only believe some of it.

Who has presented self-justification in this thread? (besides you just now) If you cannot provide that post, perhaps you should not try to give the impression that someone has indicated they are trying to justify themself.
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Who did I accuse?



Context. Babylonians building a tower to Heaven.
 
ResidentAlien

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Polar said:
Well we all have hobbies and creating these types of posts appear to be one of his. :)
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I asked you once before what you mean. What do you have against posts "like this?" What is it that so upsets you that you feel you must do everything in your power to knock it off the rails? You won't say; you just blather on and on. You still haven't said a single thing about the information in the video. That's the subject of this thread, not whether you like or dislike Caleb Corneloup.

But I get the feeling this is what you do. I don't. Have a nice life (in the ignore pile).
 
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Who did I accuse?



Context. Babylonians building a tower to Heaven.
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Well that was my question. Who are you talking about when you say this:

Dirtman said:
Heaven not achieved by workings of man but the workings of man are confounded by God because they are corrupt attempts at self justification
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Where did the 'workings' of man come into the picture? Had anyone said tongues are to justify us?
 
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I asked you once before what you mean. What do you have against posts "like this?" What is it that so upsets you that you feel you must do everything in your power to knock it off the rails? You won't say; you just blather on and on. You still haven't said a single thing about the information in the video. That's the subject of this thread, not whether you like or dislike Caleb Corneloup.

But I get the feeling this is what you do. I don't. Have a nice life.
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No, this is what you do. You create thread after thread in an anti-tongues (spiritual gifts) context and it really does not matter what a person states in response, you respond with insults...such as you only see blather in response...so really, what do you want?

Is there some reason you alone have any truth that the rest of us are ignorant of? I don't care what kind of feelings you get. They are most likely due to anyone daring to illustrate your error in this and other threads. The fact that you post a video created by a person who is taking money from people who are in fear of him and other unrighteous acts, and then will not just simply admit the error of doing so, indicates you may not exactly be all about the truth after all.

My life is very nice thank you and you have no say in it. :giggle::giggle:
 
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Well that was my question. Who are you talking about when you say this:



Where did the 'workings' of man come into the picture? Had anyone said tongues are to justify us?
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If you cant follow the conversation maybe go back and read.
I was contrasting the tower of babel against the day of Pentecost. The tower of Babel being a work of man and Pentecost being a work of God.
 
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This thread is just of many created to dismiss the spiritual gifts and snark at those who know they do in fact, continue.

Do a search on Resident Alien and you will see numerous threads that are really just one big long continuous looping attacks on all things having to do with the spiritual gifts and especially the gift of tongues.

smh

Week-end is here and I'm off the forum. We each are responsible for our own walk with the Lord. Have a good one.
 
The_Watchers_2017

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ResidentAlien said:
More blather. No good counterarguments so the only thing left to do is derail the thread. Par for the course.
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counter arguments based upon someone who clearly isn't full of the Holy Spirit reading a Bible that requires the Holy Spirit to understand it? what else do you expect but a natural human mind's perspective? what's to counter?
 
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I watched the video and can see why the title of the video is ----Why I stopped speaking in tongues -----If this man really had the True Spiritual gift of tongues -he would have definitely not wanted to stop using this great Graced gift given by the Holy Spirit ---- Speaking in tongues is a very powerful gift -----it actually edifies him or her self ----which means it builds us up in our growth in Wisdom ---Holiness and Blessedness -----it also serves as a powerful praying tool as when you don't know how to pray for a person or situation the gift of tongues by and through the Holy Spirit helps the person pray for the person or situation -----Speaking in tongues is speaking to God not man ------

1 CORINTHIANS 14:2


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For one who speaks in an [unknown] tongue speaks not to men but to God, for no one understands or catches his meaning, because in the [Holy] Spirit he utters secret truths and hidden things [not obvious to the understanding].

1 CORINTHIANS 14:4
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He who speaks in a [strange] tongue edifies and improves himself,


I say ---so the guy in the video is right about the Disciples speaking in a human language that they did not speak themselves and that was to give them the gift of preaching the Gospel to other people who spoke different languages -this was done to make the people believe ---and to get God's word out to people ----so for this passage he is right but this does in no way says that speaking in tongues is just that -----

Now he picks certain scripture like ! Corinthians 13:1 and says that many use this scripture to say this is speaking in tongues ----where it says the tongues of man and angels ------Well has he done his homework and really researched this passage and other passages he uses to refute speaking in tongues or is he really just giving his opinion on what he himself thinks he never really explains what the language of angels means here ---he just gives his opinion -----he has no idea what the passage is really saying -----Paul is not saying that he knows all the mysteries etc -----the passage is about Love is above all ----Paul is saying IF I have Prophecy and know all Mysteries but i have no love then I have nothing -----

This man is pulling scripture and using it to suit his own agenda about refuting Speaking in tongues ----

Speaking in tongues is one of the nine gifts of the Holy spirit and the Holy Spirit gives out the gifts to whom He gives them out to ------that is what the scripture says ------and it is for today as are all the 9 Gifts of the Holy spirit -----

My testimony ----how I got the gift of tongues ---

I have the gift of Speaking in Tongues ---and I didn't get it right away at the time of my conversion ---the Padre and His wife who had the gift anointed me with oil and prayed that I would get this gift of tongues ------about a week or so after they Prayed over me ---I was home and a very strong urge to pray came over me --I got on my knees and just started praying in English and all of a sudden I started speaking in another language and it was coming from my inner spirit man not my mind ------

I am so glad to have this precious gift and use it often -----I used it often when my son who is a Bomb Tech was in Afghanistan and his tank was hit by a car bomber and all 5 guys came out alive ------
So this man is peddling False Doctrine just like many others are ------


Here is a video for ya -----

Speaking in Tongues Medical Study

 
The_Watchers_2017

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studentoftheword said:
Here is a video for ya -----

Speaking in Tongues Medical Study

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this Video is amazing.

when a person is praying in their normal language the brain is showing it is in CONTROL.
but when a person is Speaking in Tongues, it shows the mind is not in control so the mind cannot be making this happen.
just fascinating and amazing Evidence!
 
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ResidentAlien said:
DavidTree, what are your thoughts on the video? Do you disagree with any of his points? If so, which ones?
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Here is the #1 reason why i gave the well deserved Rex X on the OP video:

Direct quote from video approximately 26 minute mark: "the Apostle Paul is giving an exaggerated hypothetical" = lolx100000000

A very good laugh here from the video = today's religious brain.

Thank You RA
 
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