Oppression of women
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In the OT the sons of Jacob were heads over the houses Every first born son earned that birthright. So that from generation to generation their would be a head over the house leading the whole family in the spiritual ways of GOD
But again all these lower signs and pictures and historical biblical stories was to point us to THE ONE who is over THE WHOLE HOUSE for GOD
But again all these lower signs and pictures and historical biblical stories was to point us to THE ONE who is over THE WHOLE HOUSE for GOD
You beat me to it... I was going to ask, what is "the" definition of oppression? Any type of restriction at all? If that is the definition, we are ALL oppressed. There are always rules and social mores to follow.
I don't see anything in the Bible about oppressing women.
I don't see anything in Christianity that oppresses women...
Although, in the Koran (Q'uran, however you want to spell it this week) it certainly teaches it, I would think. Especially if you look at the evidence that "devout" Muslims show the world.
I don't see anything in the Bible about oppressing women.
I don't see anything in Christianity that oppresses women...
Although, in the Koran (Q'uran, however you want to spell it this week) it certainly teaches it, I would think. Especially if you look at the evidence that "devout" Muslims show the world.
Romans 16:7 - it does not mean that Junia is an apostle, but that she is known between the apostles.
Romans 16:13 - there is no "spiritual" (i.e. that she was teaching him Torah or something), it can be just a practical view that she was to him like a true mother.
Adelphoi means "brothers". not "brothers and sisters".
Etc.
I do not think we even need such implications put into the Scripture, because what the Bible says explicitly about women is not oppression and is not wrong. Even though women have a different role from men, they are not less worthy to God as can be seen from many verses.
Our task should not be to convince an atheist worldly woman that Bible is according to her wishes, but to convince the atheist worldly woman that her views are wrong.
Romans 16:13 - there is no "spiritual" (i.e. that she was teaching him Torah or something), it can be just a practical view that she was to him like a true mother.
Adelphoi means "brothers". not "brothers and sisters".
Etc.
I do not think we even need such implications put into the Scripture, because what the Bible says explicitly about women is not oppression and is not wrong. Even though women have a different role from men, they are not less worthy to God as can be seen from many verses.
Our task should not be to convince an atheist worldly woman that Bible is according to her wishes, but to convince the atheist worldly woman that her views are wrong.
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Like I would argue with an Atheist about what the bible teaches.....imagine that fallacy....
God chose a faithful WOMAN to bear the Son of the Highest
God chose to make woman the worthy HELPER for ADAM
God chose a faithful woman to bear one of the greatest prophets of the OT. Hannah and Samuel
etc.
Look there is a God given order
God
Man
Woman
Child
ANY argument about women being suppressed is a misnomer and false........end of story.....!
God chose a faithful WOMAN to bear the Son of the Highest
God chose to make woman the worthy HELPER for ADAM
God chose a faithful woman to bear one of the greatest prophets of the OT. Hannah and Samuel
etc.
Look there is a God given order
God
Man
Woman
Child
ANY argument about women being suppressed is a misnomer and false........end of story.....!
What does the bible say about oppressing women? Does anyone know anything about that? I’m asking because I had a huge discussion (I’d almost call it a fight actually) with a classmate about this subject, she’s an Atheist and is convinced that the bible is completely false and that it says Christians should oppress women. I mean, I agree that it talks a lot about women oppression, but that does not mean we should do it. Those are stories, but not all of them are requests/demands. But I have to admit: I’m not 100% sure about my thesis ^-^; All I know is that God is good and oppression definitely isn’t, so why would He ever support oppression?
I already asked someone a similar question and he responded like this:
"Back in those times, women were very.....well, uneducated. They were often "ratchet" and just not good for speaking to others about God and demonstrating mature and proper behavior (not all but majority women), so God did not want such people being in charge of just about anything. However, this has obviously changed especially in today's era where women are just as capable as men are.That being said, just keep in mind that God likes structure and order. He, for whatever divine and infinitely wise reasons He has prefers that men remain in charge and the head and leaders and women work beneath the man. Does this mean women cannot and should not preach, lead, and speak? Of course not! Women today should be just as hype for God and His work as men are! Many women are amazing preachers and have amazing hearts for ministry! But God would just prefer that they are under the power of a man who is just as strong in his ministry or even stronger. This does not mean the woman is now "weaker" or less valuable and etc, but more of she is just following custom and structure. She is still capable of doing all God has called her to do, but just does not have the title as the "Head Pastor" or something."
But that makes me wonder about something: Why doesn't the bible say something like "oh, I don't want women to be in charge when it comes to certain positions, BUT eventually there will be a time where women will be educated enough to be capable of it"
There are lot of prophecies in the bible, so why are there no predictions about this specific subject? (if that makes sense)
I'd highly appreciate your responses!
I already asked someone a similar question and he responded like this:
"Back in those times, women were very.....well, uneducated. They were often "ratchet" and just not good for speaking to others about God and demonstrating mature and proper behavior (not all but majority women), so God did not want such people being in charge of just about anything. However, this has obviously changed especially in today's era where women are just as capable as men are.That being said, just keep in mind that God likes structure and order. He, for whatever divine and infinitely wise reasons He has prefers that men remain in charge and the head and leaders and women work beneath the man. Does this mean women cannot and should not preach, lead, and speak? Of course not! Women today should be just as hype for God and His work as men are! Many women are amazing preachers and have amazing hearts for ministry! But God would just prefer that they are under the power of a man who is just as strong in his ministry or even stronger. This does not mean the woman is now "weaker" or less valuable and etc, but more of she is just following custom and structure. She is still capable of doing all God has called her to do, but just does not have the title as the "Head Pastor" or something."
But that makes me wonder about something: Why doesn't the bible say something like "oh, I don't want women to be in charge when it comes to certain positions, BUT eventually there will be a time where women will be educated enough to be capable of it"
There are lot of prophecies in the bible, so why are there no predictions about this specific subject? (if that makes sense)
I'd highly appreciate your responses!
What does the bible say about oppressing women? Does anyone know anything about that? I’m asking because I had a huge discussion (I’d almost call it a fight actually) with a classmate about this subject, she’s an Atheist and is convinced that the bible is completely false and that it says Christians should oppress women. I mean, I agree that it talks a lot about women oppression, but that does not mean we should do it. Those are stories, but not all of them are requests/demands. But I have to admit: I’m not 100% sure about my thesis ^-^; All I know is that God is good and oppression definitely isn’t, so why would He ever support oppression?
I already asked someone a similar question and he responded like this:
"Back in those times, women were very.....well, uneducated. They were often "ratchet" and just not good for speaking to others about God and demonstrating mature and proper behavior (not all but majority women), so God did not want such people being in charge of just about anything. However, this has obviously changed especially in today's era where women are just as capable as men are.That being said, just keep in mind that God likes structure and order. He, for whatever divine and infinitely wise reasons He has prefers that men remain in charge and the head and leaders and women work beneath the man. Does this mean women cannot and should not preach, lead, and speak? Of course not! Women today should be just as hype for God and His work as men are! Many women are amazing preachers and have amazing hearts for ministry! But God would just prefer that they are under the power of a man who is just as strong in his ministry or even stronger. This does not mean the woman is now "weaker" or less valuable and etc, but more of she is just following custom and structure. She is still capable of doing all God has called her to do, but just does not have the title as the "Head Pastor" or something."
But that makes me wonder about something: Why doesn't the bible say something like "oh, I don't want women to be in charge when it comes to certain positions, BUT eventually there will be a time where women will be educated enough to be capable of it"
There are lot of prophecies in the bible, so why are there no predictions about this specific subject? (if that makes sense)
I'd highly appreciate your responses!
I already asked someone a similar question and he responded like this:
"Back in those times, women were very.....well, uneducated. They were often "ratchet" and just not good for speaking to others about God and demonstrating mature and proper behavior (not all but majority women), so God did not want such people being in charge of just about anything. However, this has obviously changed especially in today's era where women are just as capable as men are.That being said, just keep in mind that God likes structure and order. He, for whatever divine and infinitely wise reasons He has prefers that men remain in charge and the head and leaders and women work beneath the man. Does this mean women cannot and should not preach, lead, and speak? Of course not! Women today should be just as hype for God and His work as men are! Many women are amazing preachers and have amazing hearts for ministry! But God would just prefer that they are under the power of a man who is just as strong in his ministry or even stronger. This does not mean the woman is now "weaker" or less valuable and etc, but more of she is just following custom and structure. She is still capable of doing all God has called her to do, but just does not have the title as the "Head Pastor" or something."
But that makes me wonder about something: Why doesn't the bible say something like "oh, I don't want women to be in charge when it comes to certain positions, BUT eventually there will be a time where women will be educated enough to be capable of it"
There are lot of prophecies in the bible, so why are there no predictions about this specific subject? (if that makes sense)
I'd highly appreciate your responses!