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You won't listen to it because you know if we are right, you will have to stop sinning. You love your sin more than CHIRST. 90% of the people on this site are here to hand excuses to each other.
 

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One way to make the Bible difficult is to try to insert difficult complex theories to Revelation 20.

It is not as mystical as the amillennialist would have you believe, they want to paint it in that light cause their system is very much incapable of explaining away the first resurrection.

Here is the king kong problem: Amillennialists claim the first resurrection is a spiritual resurrection, not a physical one, but the text says "rest of the dead lived not until the 1000 years, this is the first resurrection"

So whatever type the first resurrection was, there will be another similar one a 1000 years later. If it was indeed a spiritual resurrection, then EVERYONE gets a spiritual resurrection, not a bodily one.

Granted, none of this really matters as the literal definition of the word resurrection already kind of refutes any spiritual connotation to it, like being brought from death to life in a spiritual sense. Resurrection MEANS to stand up again, and you guessed it, that happens in the flesh.
 
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One way to make the Bible difficult is to try to insert difficult complex theories to Revelation 20.

It is not as mystical as the amillennialist would have you believe, they want to paint it in that light cause their system is very much incapable of explaining away the first resurrection.

Here is the king kong problem: Amillennialists claim the first resurrection is a spiritual resurrection, not a physical one, but the text says "rest of the dead lived not until the 1000 years, this is the first resurrection"

So whatever type the first resurrection was, there will be another similar one a 1000 years later. If it was indeed a spiritual resurrection, then EVERYONE gets a spiritual resurrection, not a bodily one.

Granted, none of this really matters as the literal definition of the word resurrection already kind of refutes any spiritual connotation to it, like being brought from death to life in a spiritual sense. Resurrection MEANS to stand up again, and you guessed it, that happens in the flesh.
The First Resurrection is always talking about CHRIST. Preterits say the 1000 years already happened, satan was bound from preventing the early Christian movement from growing. The flood out of satan's mouth that was swallowed by the earth ...was 70 A.D. It was satan trying to kill the source of Christianity ...The Great City ...but the Body of CHRIST got wings to hide in the wilderness.
 
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Giving into the flesh ruins our Reborn Image. It ruins our Narrow Path of SALVATION. It ruins The HOLY SPIRIT Oil that was in you (Makes GOD'S Presence leave you). It takes us off GOD'S Plan of Life.

Do you think you can do an intentional sin and then ask GOD to forgive you for it after? What do you think this Test is about?

The lukewarm want any excuse they can ...waiting from some mark of the beast or some Temple that Jews don't even own the land to ...to get Right with GOD.
 
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One way to make the Bible difficult is to try to insert difficult complex theories to Revelation 20.

It is not as mystical as the amillennialist would have you believe, they want to paint it in that light cause their system is very much incapable of explaining away the first resurrection.

Here is the king kong problem: Amillennialists claim the first resurrection is a spiritual resurrection, not a physical one, but the text says "rest of the dead lived not until the 1000 years, this is the first resurrection"

So whatever type the first resurrection was, there will be another similar one a 1000 years later. If it was indeed a spiritual resurrection, then EVERYONE gets a spiritual resurrection, not a bodily one.

Granted, none of this really matters as the literal definition of the word resurrection already kind of refutes any spiritual connotation to it, like being brought from death to life in a spiritual sense. Resurrection MEANS to stand up again, and you guessed it, that happens in the flesh.
The thousand years might have started at Revelation 14:8

"And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication."​

Scripture saying the thousand is an indefinite amount:

Joshua 23:10​
One man of you shall chase a thousand: for the LORD your God, he it is that fighteth for you, as he hath promised you.​
Psalm 50:10​
For every beast of the forest is mine, and the cattle upon a thousand hills.
Deuteronomy 7:9​
Know therefore that the LORD thy God, he is God, the faithful God, which keepeth covenant and mercy with them that love him and keep his commandments to a thousand generations;
 
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You won't listen to it because you know if we are right, you will have to stop sinning. You love your sin more than CHIRST. 90% of the people on this site are here to hand excuses to each other.
Dude, your Doctrine ain't worth listening to, period!

I already showed you that the Gospel of Luke places us in the Gentile Reign after the 70 A.D. debacle, and these are the Words of Jesus speaking.

The Hebrew/Jews had 3,200 years to be God's Chosen and your False Doctrine only gives the Gentiles ONE DAY!

I don't have time to debate Stupid!

And that is what Your False Doctrine is!
 
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Dude, your Doctrine ain't worth listening to, period!

I already showed you that the Gospel of Luke places us in the Gentile Reign after the 70 A.D. debacle, and these are the Words of Jesus speaking.

The Hebrew/Jews had 3,200 years to be God's Chosen and your False Doctrine only gives the Gentiles ONE DAY!

I don't have time to debate Stupid!

And that is what Your False Doctrine is!
Everyone loves videos about the mark of the beast and 666. You never bothered to actually look into what is required for your view to work. You literally take The Covenant from Daniel's 70 Weeks and hand It to the antichrist. Think about that. You are saying Angel Gabriel told Daniel ...a Jew, about some antichrist with a covenant ...how much more ridiculous can you get?

i'm the one with false doctrine? Do you think the guy screaming to stop sinning has the wrong view? Ask yourself why you are defending your sins.
 
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Everyone loves videos about the mark of the beast and 666. You never bothered to actually look into what is required for your view to work. You literally take The Covenant from Daniel's 70 Weeks and hand It to the antichrist. Think about that. You are saying Angel Gabriel told Daniel ...a Jew, about some antichrist with a covenant ...how much more ridiculous can you get?

i'm the one with false doctrine? Do you think the guy screaming to stop sinning has the wrong view? Ask yourself why you are defending your sins.
Cry as loud as you desire, it falls upon deaf ears!
 
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i hear the phrase, "if you don't sin then JESUS died for nothing" ....from atheists ...are you one?
 

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The thousand years might have started at Revelation 14:8

"And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication."​
When is this in history? Let me guess, AD70?
 

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The First Resurrection is always talking about CHRIST. Preterits say the 1000 years already happened, satan was bound from preventing the early Christian movement from growing. The flood out of satan's mouth that was swallowed by the earth ...was 70 A.D. It was satan trying to kill the source of Christianity ...The Great City ...but the Body of CHRIST got wings to hide in the wilderness.
The first resurrection in Revelation 20 is not speaking about Jesus' resurrection not even a bit lol

The first resurrection of Rev 20 is of the SAINTS, the people who did not bow down to the beast...
 
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"And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication."
When is this in history? Let me guess, AD70?
Do you know of another "great city"?
 

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"And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication."


Do you know of another "great city"?
Yeah, Rome, more specifically vatican. The city who runs the kings of the earth, everyone goes to see the pope. Jerusalem never was a big player, still isn't
 
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Yeah, Rome, more specifically vatican. The city who runs the kings of the earth, everyone goes to see the pope. Jerusalem never was a big player, still isn't
Nice try, GOD doesn't call any other city "great".
 
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The first resurrection in Revelation 20 is not speaking about Jesus' resurrection not even a bit lol

The first resurrection of Rev 20 is of the SAINTS, the people who did not bow down to the beast...
No? Then what was this about?

Matthew 27:51-53

And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;

And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,

And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.
 

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No? Then what was this about?

Matthew 27:51-53

And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;

And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,

And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.
These people did not even have a chance to refuse the mark of the beast, they were dead before Jesus even died on the cross. Nothing to do with Revelation 20.
 

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You won't listen to it because you know if we are right, you will have to stop sinning. You love your sin more than CHIRST. 90% of the people on this site are here to hand excuses to each other.
What does eschatology have to do with sinning? You know the mother of harlots the catholic church teaches amillennalism? Didn't stop them from living in sin and depravity.

You can sin no matter what eschatology view you hold to.
 
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These people did not even have a chance to refuse the mark of the beast, they were dead before Jesus even died on the cross. Nothing to do with Revelation 20.
Is this a joke response? Read the Scripture again and try to give a real excuse. the mark of the beast was 2,000 years ago.