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Walter11

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Correct me if am wrong but, when God say that His people are worshipping idols, does it mean there is yet a time that will came when people will start worshipping real idols or does He simply mean the kind of God we are taking Him for. I say this with Exodus 32:4 in mind. The jews after moulding a golden bull-calf declared that that thing is what led them out of egypt. Anything other than the truth about God does just that in the minds of them that listen to it. The churches have done exactly what the jews did in their days by moulding the gosple into an image made by corruptible man as noted in Romans 1:21-26, who changed the truth of God into a lie and caused the people to worshipped the creature more than the CREATER. Am i right in thinking like that or am i dead wrong? Have your say.
 
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Jezreel

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The word of God says, "The light of the glorious gospel of Jesus Christ who is the image of God should shine unto them". On the other hand, they make an image of the beast.
 
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Correct me if am wrong but, when God say that His people are worshipping idols, does it mean there is yet a time that will came when people will start worshipping real idols or does He simply mean the kind of God we are taking Him for. I say this with Exodus 32:4 in mind. The jews after moulding a golden bull-calf declared that that thing is what led them out of egypt. Anything other than the truth about God does just that in the minds of them that listen to it. The churches have done exactly what the jews did in their days by moulding the gosple into an image made by corruptible man as noted in Romans 1:21-26, who changed the truth of God into a lie and caused the people to worshipped the creature more than the CREATER. Am i right in thinking like that or am i dead wrong? Have your say.
Peace be to you
Many already do worship images,statues;http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl...OIv4ko&sa=X&oi=image_result&resnum=3&ct=image


http://www.godchecker.com/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cristo_Redentor_Rio_de_Janeiro_4.jpg

this one looks cool but you wount see me bowing down and worshiping any graven image.Even if it is Jesus


exodus;
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;And showing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

acks;
That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us:
For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.
Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.
And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:


Love a friend in God
 
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Walter11

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The word of God says, "The light of the glorious gospel of Jesus Christ who is the image of God should shine unto them". On the other hand, they make an image of the beast.
I agree with you, but how do they make that image of the beast? Is it by moulding gold and making it into an image like the jews did or is it moulding the gosple of truth into a lie?
 
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Jezreel

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I am led to believe that it is going to be a a doctrine with the Roman Catholic Church as the head again in the new world order religeon. In Revelation it says that the beast was given a wound to one of it's head with a "sword".(word of God is a two edged sword---when Martin Luther came out with "the just shall live by faith, there was a break away from the Roman Catholic Church. We know that there are many stories floating around that the antiChrist will get shot in the head?! It goes on to say that the world marvels after the beast that had a deadly wound and was healed". This could be the Roman Catholic Church leading the NWO religeon.
 
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Walter11

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Peace be to you
Many already do worship images,statues;http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl...OIv4ko&sa=X&oi=image_result&resnum=3&ct=image


http://www.godchecker.com/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cristo_Redentor_Rio_de_Janeiro_4.jpg

this one looks cool but you wount see me bowing down and worshiping any graven image.Even if it is Jesus


exodus;
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;And showing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

acks;
That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us:
For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.
Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.
And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:


Love a friend in God
I see what you mean but i see a difference in those worshipping an idol believing it is some kind of god and those worshipping an idol thinking and believing it is the same God of the bible like the jews did in Exodus 32:4. The image of Christ as the Truth has been turned into a lie in the likeness of a creature. Do you see what i mean? My regards and may the LORD bless you.
 
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Jezreel

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Revelation goes on to say that they give life and breath to the image of the beast so it could speak and cause as many who worship the image of the beast to receive a mark. The false prophet could be the one giving life and breath to the image of the beast.
 
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Walter11

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I am led to believe that it is going to be a a doctrine with the Roman Catholic Church as the head again in the new world order religeon. In Revelation it says that the beast was given a wound to one of it's head with a "sword".(word of God is a two edged sword---when Martin Luther came out with "the just shall live by faith, there was a break away from the Roman Catholic Church. We know that there are many stories floating around that the antiChrist will get shot in the head?! It goes on to say that the world marvels after the beast that had a deadly wound and was healed". This could be the Roman Catholic Church leading the NWO religeon.
I have always believed the wound on that creature who is satan was given to him by Christ on the cross to hold him down while the gosple went out into the world. Now the wound has healed and satan is up in arms again against the truth of God. He has to cast down the truth as we read in Daniel 8:12 and replace it with a lie that looks so much like the truth. In short, what we saw him do to Adams bride Eve, would be what he would try to do to Christs bride, the church. This bride is depicted by the woman we read about in Revelation 18:4 where the true believers are told to flee from her and her ways.
 
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There are all kinds of false gods. Buddah, Alah. Some places they have thousands of false gods they worship. Mary, the saints, TV, the president. Angels. Themselves is a biggy. Most people haven't surrenderd to God because they are their own god. Their will not Gods will.
 
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Jezreel

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Also, here is another thought with scripture, it speaks about the son of Perdition in Thessalonians, "who opposes and exhaults himself above all that is called God or that is worshipped so that he as God, sits in the temple of God showing himself that he is God.
We know that the temple of God is the body of Christ. Most people are looking "in the flesh" to see that temple rebuilt in Jerusalem. The temple will be restored but that is the God's holy church being restored in all truth and light from what the Roman Catholic Church and the daughters of the great whore did. He will restore the years the cankerworm and palmerworm have destroyed. That is the bride being made ready for his coming. He is going to graft Israel back in and do a quick work. A child will become a thousand, and a little one a great nation and the Lord will "hasten" it in his time.
 
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Harley_Angel

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There are so many idols we worship and don't even realize it. Our favourite tv shows, our favourite music band, even sometimes our crosses and crucifixes. Any time you don't go to church or worship God because you are tired, or sleepy, or don't feel good. You are putting the idols of laziness in front of God. Some people even idolize their friends or their spouses not realizing they put them before God. Some people idolize food, enjoying it, savoring it long past what's necessary for their bodies and that food addiction can cause you to harm yourself with junk food, going out of your way to get food, which makes it an idol. Alcoholics idolize booze, smokers idolize their cigarettes. We tend to worship a lot of things without realizing it.
 
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Cup-of-Ruin

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Right now the biggest idolatry is false money! What is false money? Well it's not what God means by 'money', God has economic laws and a 'false weight is an abomination', paper fiat currency that is printed out of central banks from nothing, and even worse 'credit' is issued from nothing and charged with interest which is usury and that is a very grave sin, so we see our monetery system to which people sacrifice daily to and worship and desire and love is idolatry, it is no different to a dumb golden cow, in fact it's worse, if we look at the U.S. Dollar which is the basis and method by which all nations 'buy and sell' it says 'In God we trust', well now that blasphemy, becuase by using it we blaspheme His holy Name by falsely claiming it is certified and sanctioned by God, but it is not, paper fiat currency is a sin and it is illegal under the U.S. constitution as all currency must be silver and gold and not the whim of a banker and politician, the U.S. Dollar is made of paper and cloth, so it is essantially a 'filthy rag' to which we have false put God's Name, so that is blasphemy and bearing false witness against God.

Because of all these grave sins and idolatry and commandment breaking that have been conducted against God, judgemant will soon come, in fact we saw last year the first signs, the financial crash, that was just the first stage, there will be a economic crash next, unemployment will continue to rise, more false money will be printed leading to inflation than hyperinflation, there will be food shortages as production decreases and there will be alot of suffering in the coming years for the sins of our past and present.
 
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MaggieMye

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THe 'beast' is anything other than God Himself. Every thing that is worship or given more credence and importance than the Lord in a person's life, is an IDOL. All idols are substitutes for God and lead to satan...it is satan's goal to get our eyes off of JEsus and onto ANYTHING else so as to be NOT serving the Lord and Not obeying His word.
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Leilaii425

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I agree with you, but how do they make that image of the beast? Is it by moulding gold and making it into an image like the jews did or is it moulding the gosple of truth into a lie?

paper mache.. then paint it brown, you can use raisins as eyes and a noodle for a mouth.... at least thats how i usually make my beasts
 
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Cup of Ruin do you use paper money (or plastic) , or do you buy everything you need with carrots?
 
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Walter11

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paper mache.. then paint it brown, you can use raisins as eyes and a noodle for a mouth.... at least thats how i usually make my beasts
You missed my point but thanks anyway. I always have a hard time trying to express what i have in mind. Every single one that took the time to reply missed my point just as they all did in my other posts. I give up. God bless you all.
 
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Correct me if am wrong but, when God say that His people are worshipping idols, does it mean there is yet a time that will came when people will start worshipping real idols or does He simply mean the kind of God we are taking Him for. I say this with Exodus 32:4 in mind. The jews after moulding a golden bull-calf declared that that thing is what led them out of egypt. Anything other than the truth about God does just that in the minds of them that listen to it. The churches have done exactly what the jews did in their days by moulding the gosple into an image made by corruptible man as noted in Romans 1:21-26, who changed the truth of God into a lie and caused the people to worshipped the creature more than the CREATER. Am i right in thinking like that or am i dead wrong? Have your say.
I'll paraphrase whatI think happened. These guys were getting worried that Moses had went up the mountain and died or something and wasn't coming back. They felt that God had rejected them, even Aaron. They turned to the nearest thing to comfort them and that was something they already had in their possession - gold ornaments. So they make a bull calf and worship it as a substitute for God, and Aaron is the new leader who replaces Moses. This was a test of the people's faith , would they keep trusting God as the living and everpresent Lord with them, even if they had no one like Moses to lead them? Where they looking towards the invisble Spirit God or were they looking towards the earthly and fleshly leader of Moses?

The lesson for us I think is to trust in and have patience with God. When we are desperate we tend to reach for the things which are closest to us and the things we love the most. Usually that is mammon, like the gold jewellry. Anything that is a substitute for God in our life is an idol.
 
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1Covenant

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I think I get what you are saying Water.

I would have to say that the first thing the people of God do on this trip down the path of idolatry is to FORGET. A sin continually warned against in God's Word. So they forgot what God had just said and did (his trustworthiness and power). Next they synthesized what they knew of God with what they had set their affections on - namely their old life. You will notice in that same period that the people of God in their rejection will call EGYPT the land flowing with milk and honey which of course is the complete opposite of what God had said.
 
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Leilaii425

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You missed my point but thanks anyway. I always have a hard time trying to express what i have in mind. Every single one that took the time to reply missed my point just as they all did in my other posts. I give up. God bless you all.

Your welcome. Just so you know, i do origami as well, so you can also make a beast out of that, its a bit trickier but it can be done!!
 
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