OUR HEAVENLY MANSIONS

[JesusistheChrist]

Revelation chapter 5
Hi JITC
[1] And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals.
[2] And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof?
[3] And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon.
[4] And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon.

You tell me who are the men under the earth then I will tell you those in heaven

I would...but I don't want to ruin anybody's "fun" by discussing the Bible on the "Bible Discussion Forum".

Start another thread if you'd like to and I'll engage you in conversation there.

Thanks.

Unsubscribing...

 

[Kro]

Not know how. Knew to this forum

 

[Kro]

On Philippians 2:10 there are a lot of things in heaven that are not men:angels,cherubim,4 living creatures,elders,and fallen angels.

 

[p_rehbein]

On Philippians 2:10 there are a lot of things in heaven that are not men:angels,cherubim,4 living creatures,elders,and fallen angels.

fallen angels are in heaven?

 

[Kro]

fallen angels are in heaven?

Well, Ephesians 6:13 speaks of spiritual forces of evil in heavenly places. Even Satan
himself would appear before God's throne in the book of Job

 

[Kro]

And Satan was a fallen angel

 

[p_rehbein]

Well, Ephesians 6:13 speaks of spiritual forces of evil in heavenly places. Even Satan
himself would appear before God's throne in the book of Job

Thought we were discussing today.........not yesteryears............

 

[dcontroversal]

The word mansion comes from a Greek word that simply means a dwelling place.....I would lay odds that no man made house on this planet could compare to the dwelling place that Christ has prepared for those who are the hiers of eternal salvation......Our transformed body will be celestial so one can only imagine what our dwelling place would be like........HEAVENLY hahahahahah yeah pun intended

 

[DesiredHaven]

He dwelleth in Mount Zion too, how come Zion is spelled with a Z sometimes and other times with an S, thats bugging me. Anyone know?

 

[Reborn]

He dwelleth in Mount Zion too, how come Zion is spelled with a Z sometimes and other times with an S, thats bugging me. Anyone know?

Back in 956, they brought the word over from Israel and the word was too "heavy". So they determined the cause was in the fact, that the "Z" was placed on it before the Abrahamic covenant, A conditional or bilateral letters, is an agreement that is binding on both parties for its fulfillment?

Kidding.

Has something to do with the Greek spelling of it, right?

Sion.....with a little tilde thingy over the "O"?

 

[DesiredHaven]

Back in 956, they brought the word over from Israel and the word was too "heavy". So they determined the cause was in the fact, that the "Z" was placed on it before the Abrahamic covenant, A conditional or bilateral letters, is an agreement that is binding on both parties for its fulfillment?

Kidding.

Has something to do with the Greek spelling of it, right?

Sion.....with a little tilde thingy over the "O"?

Rofl! What?!

You crack me up!

Look it up in the OT, run Zion and Sion there, thats not Greek (obviously)

I have always wanted to ask about that but I never did.

(nut!)

 

[Reborn]

Rofl! What?!

You crack me up!

Look it up in the OT, run Zion and Sion there, thats not Greek (obviously)

I have always wanted to ask about that but I never did.

(nut!)

......notice.....my response was in the form of a question.
Now, I'm curious.
There are a million people on here, who know all about those types of things.
Well shall see,.... if someone chimes in with an answer.

 

[DesiredHaven]

......notice.....my response was in the form of a question.
Now, I'm curious.
There are a million people on here, who know all about those types of things.
Well shall see,.... if someone chimes in with an answer.

Okay, I will wait... lol

(Wishes JesusisTheChrist didnt unsubscribe) lol

 

[Reborn]

Okay, I will wait... lol

(Wishes JesusisTheChrist didnt unsubscribe) lol

No doubt.
Except JITC, would post a million verses, ....leading to the "obvious"........and then I'd think to myself,

"Ahhh......Yeah...I knew that JITC,.....see?....... I was just testing you, brother."

He's a good guy.

 

[DesiredHaven]

No doubt.
Except JITC, would post a million verses, ....leading to the "obvious"........and then I'd think to myself,

"Ahhh......Yeah...I knew that JITC,.....see?....... I was just testing you, brother."

He's a good guy.

LOL!! Okay he can do that, but that so beats no verses whatsoever and a "Nuh uh or yuh uh" (by most folks) at least he uses the word.

He tries to be thorough, I appreciate that. besides I like to see how someone compares things.

But on something like this?

Nah, he wouldnt.

(((calling someone who can answer my Sion/Zion question)))

 

[JesusistheChrist]

Rofl! What?!

You crack me up!

Look it up in the OT, run Zion and Sion there, thats not Greek (obviously)

I have always wanted to ask about that but I never did.

(nut!)

"Sion" with an "s" only appears twice in the Old Testament and not in all English translations as I'll show in just a moment. The first place which it appears in the KJV is here:

"From Aroer, which is by the bank of the river Arnon, even unto mount Sion, which is Hermon," (Deuteronomy 4:48)

This "mount Sion" is NOT the Mt. Zion which we read of elsewhere all throughout the Old Testament in that it is actually Mt. Hermon. Also, the underlying Hebrew word "Siy'on"...

Hebrew Lexicon :: H7865 (KJV)

...which is here translated as "Sion" is NOT the same underlying Hebrew word which is elsewhere translated as "Zion" all throughout the Old Testament. In this instance, the Hebrew word "Siy'on" simply means "lofty" so it was used in a descriptive sense in relation to the "lofty" Mt. Hermon.

The only other place where the word "Sion" appears in the Old Testament of the KJV is here:

"Praise waiteth for thee, O God, in Sion: and unto thee shall the vow be performed." (Psalm 65:1)

This "Sion" is definitely the same "Zion" or "Mt. Zion" which we read of all throughout the Old Testament. Here, the underlying Hebrew word is "Tsiyown"...

Hebrew Lexicon :: H6726 (KJV)

...and it appears a total of 154 times in the underlying Hebrew of the Old Testament and in 153 or those 154 times it is translated as "Zion" in the KJV and Psalm 65:1 is the sole exception where it is translated as "Sion". Why the change in spelling by the KJV translators? Honestly, I have no idea whatsoever, but, again, it is spelled with a "Z" in many other English translations in Psalm 65:1 as you can see here (click on the verse below and it will take you to a site with translations of this verse in different Bible versions):

Psalm 65:1 Praise awaits you, our God, in Zion; to you our vows will be fulfilled.

Only because I received an email from a damsel in distress...

 

[blue_ladybug]

oh what the heck..my subtle reminder went unheeded and got derailed for 5 pages..y'all might as well continue on debating..lol.. *reminds self to NEVER start a thread in bible argument forum again*

 

[p_rehbein]

oh what the heck..my subtle reminder went unheeded and got derailed for 5 pages..y'all might as well continue on debating..lol.. *reminds self to NEVER start a thread in bible argument forum again*

Note to Bug: Never attempt to derail an argument in progress which derailed the OP............what does OFF TOPIC even mean?

 

[blue_ladybug]

Note to Bug: Never attempt to derail an argument in progress which derailed the OP............what does OFF TOPIC even mean?

off topic means this thread went from heavenly mansions to mount sion..lol..

 

[JesusistheChrist]

off topic means this thread went from heavenly mansions to mount sion..lol..

Ironically, that's not "off topic" at all. Again, there are no "heavenly mansions" actually spoken of in scripture, but the eleven to whom Jesus was actually speaking will apparently reside with Him in "dwellings" or "rooms" in a coming temple ON MOUNT ZION.

Go figure.