Paper Money and Fiat Currency is the Mark of the Beast

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Locoponydirtman

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gaviriachristian said:
Exchanging paper money and fiat currency for things we need is the way to get rid of paper money, otherwise we would be left out on the street with nothing, not even the clothes on our backs, which is not the will of God, for even the Israelites took articles of gold from the Egyptians when they left Egypt. It is not difficult to live outside the financial system, I am an example of it, but to those who do not want to inconvenience themselves it is nearly impossible to persuade them to do otherwise. And that is why most of you will be condemned, because of your refusal to not only believe the truth regarding the Torah, but also the truth regarding money.
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What you are doing is hypocrisy , using the mark of the beast to set yourself up, and asking other people to use their mark of the beast to also set you up, so you can go on with your hypocritical plans. Why are you asking donations of those doomed to hell. If it is required to abandon currency, they shod not be donating to you. They need to set themselves up against this coming doom, and you should be preaching that, and abandon your mark of the beast not purchasing products and setting yourself up by utilizing the mark of the beast, you should throw that away, because what you are doing is using damnation to create a safety net for yourself because you don't trust God. You trust the mark of the beast, and the stuff it provides.
 
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Locoponydirtman said:
What you are doing is hypocrisy , using the mark of the beast to set yourself up, and asking other people to use their mark of the beast to also set you up, so you can go on with your hypocritical plans. Why are you asking donations of those doomed to hell. If it is required to abandon currency, they shod not be donating to you. They need to set themselves up against this coming doom, and you should be preaching that, and abandon your mark of the beast not purchasing products and setting yourself up by utilizing the mark of the beast, you should throw that away, because what you are doing is using damnation to create a safety net for yourself because you don't trust God. You trust the mark of the beast, and the stuff it provides.
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It is not hypocrisy, and in fact, it is clever, for even in relation to foods that the Israelites themselves were forbidden to eat they were permitted to sell it to foreigners, hence,

You shall not eat anything that has died on its own. You may give it to the foreigner who is within your towns, that he may eat it, or you may sell it to a stranger. For you are a people set-apart to Yehovah your God…
Deuteronomy 14:21

The goal is to exchange all paper money and fiat currency for things we need, such as food, clothes, prepaying rent in advance, prepaying cell phone in advance, gold, silver, etc, until it is all gone and eliminated. If everyone in the world did this, then there would be no paper money and fiat currency left, only the things we need, and gold and silver, and we would therefore lift away this financial system from our backs if we all collaborated together to do this. And we would have gold and silver to buy or sell with, as it was done for thousands of years, which cannot be devalued, for an ounce of gold today is the same ounce of gold tomorrow. But of course, there exists stubborn people like yourselves, who refuse to understand the evil that is committed through paper money and fiat currency, and do not want to be inconvenienced, so rather than resist the current as it is our duty to do so, for just only a few years more until the second coming, they just go with the flow with the masses, towards perdition.
 
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Hevosmies said:
Yet you are on the internet right now, yet you live in a house, yet you eat food. I bet all those are paid off with good will?
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Not to mention that he's obviously on a phone or computer, accessing CC..
 
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Yet you are on the internet right now, yet you live in a house, yet you eat food. I bet all those are paid off with good will?
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I eliminated all paper money and fiat currency by purchasing and prepaying the things I need, so even though I do not have a penny to my name, I live as if I did. It is actually not difficult to leave the financial system, it is only difficult to those who are stubborn and do not want to obey the commands of God.
 
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gaviriachristian said:
That is correct, I do not, I do have even have one penny to my name.
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Sure....how do you get peanut butter to feed the poor and your premise falls way short....Jesus used money, ROMAN MONEY.....wrap your head around that!! SO DID THE APOSTLES AND DISCIPLES......some people just need to keep their religious views under the vest because when they talk, it becomes all too obvious that they are missing the mark.
 
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dcontroversal said:
Sure....how do you get peanut butter to feed the poor and your premise falls way short....Jesus used money, ROMAN MONEY.....wrap your head around that!! SO DID THE APOSTLES AND DISCIPLES......some people just need to keep their religious views undet the vest because when they talk it becomes all too obvious that they are missing the mark.
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Roman money then was silver, actual money. Money today is paper money, which is devalued, which breaks the command of the Torah "you shall have righteous weights and quantities", which impoverishes the world, which is why in Egypt what they make in one day in their paper money is enough to buy food for one day in the USA, they are utterly impoverished, through paper money and fiat currency. It is the greatest ponzi scheme of thievery the world has ever seen. But wait, you reject the Torah, so I would expect you to have no understanding regarding this, or regarding any matter at all. :LOL:
 
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Roman money then was silver, actual money. Money today is paper money, which is devalued, which breaks the command of the Torah "you shall have righteous weights and quantities", which impoverishes the world, which is why in Egypt what they make in one day in their paper money is enough to buy food for one day in the USA, they are utterly impoverished, through paper money and fiat currency. It is the greatest ponzi scheme of thievery the world has ever seen. But wait, you reject the Torah, so I would expect you to have no understanding regarding this, or regarding any matter at all. :LOL:
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You don't know what you are talking about and this post proves it......and what I reject is your view of the "TORAH"......GET your facts straight pal.....MONEY IS MONEY and THE USE of money RIGHT NOW is not the MARK OF THE BEAST......funny thing...you don't even grasp biblical salvation.....no surpirse that in other areas you have no understanding either......what a joke!
 
dcontroversal

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Hahahahha ROMAN money was ACTUAL MONEY.......wow.......I thought I had heard it all.....man this takes the cake......shakes head...wow
 
Hevosmies

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This guy is one of the biggest losers i've ever seen on the forums. He just isnt right on ANYTHING. An error here and there is regular for every one of us, no one is perfect.

But this guy just isnt right about NOTHING! Goes to show you the deception you fall into when you get the Gospel wrong, its ERROR after ERROR piling up. Strong delusion setting in
 
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gaviriachristian said:
Because money before was gold or silver........
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that appears to me to be a very weak & unconvincing argument, and doesn't explain what i see in scripture.

gold and silver is itself 'fiat currency' --- ya can't eat it. it represents the more tangible wealth of cattle and fields and produce, for which it was exchanged in Torah ((e.g. Numbers 18, Leviticus 27)) according to the law.

is it only because of the printing press that it becomes evil to use representative script? metals are fine, but cloth or paper is wicked?
 
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I guess when his prepaid service runs out we won't hear from h anymore.
 
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gaviriachristian said:
Roman money then was silver, actual money. Money today is paper money, which is devalued, which breaks the command of the Torah "you shall have righteous weights and quantities", which impoverishes the world, which is why in Egypt what they make in one day in their paper money is enough to buy food for one day in the USA, they are utterly impoverished, through paper money and fiat currency. It is the greatest ponzi scheme of thievery the world has ever seen. But wait, you reject the Torah, so I would expect you to have no understanding regarding this, or regarding any matter at all. :LOL:
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Fiat money has value, so you are very mistaken here, it is derived from the relationship of supply and demand and the economic GDP, its sturdiness is based on the government issuing the money.
 
dcontroversal

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Hevosmies said:
This guy is one of the biggest losers i've ever seen on the forums. He just isnt right on ANYTHING. An error here and there is regular for every one of us, no one is perfect.

But this guy just isnt right about NOTHING! Goes to show you the deception you fall into when you get the Gospel wrong, its ERROR after ERROR piling up. Strong delusion setting in
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I honestly do not know if I should laugh or vomit sometimes when I read some things posted.....Money today is not real money and ROMAN MONEY was real Money.....talk about circular reasoning and words spoken out if ignorance..........He just condemned ALL of Christianity by this ridiculous thread.......

I used money yesterday to buy gas to drive 180 miles round trip to pick up a friend from the hospital that needed a ride.....oooooooooo I used the mark of the beast.......and then again to buy food at Sonic....double cursed....h---.....I used money to pay a guy that done dozer work for me....holy crap.....I gave money to the Lord's churches which they used to pay missionaries.....and pastor's salaries....and electric for the church buildings.......quadruple cursed to hell I guess......
 
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dcontroversal said:
You don't know what you are talking about and this post proves it......and what I reject is your view of the "TORAH"......GET your facts straight pal.....MONEY IS MONEY and THE USE of money RIGHT NOW is not the MARK OF THE BEAST......funny thing...you don't even grasp biblical salvation.....no surpirse that in other areas you have no understanding either......what a joke!
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Paper money is not "just money". You have no understanding what fiat currency is. Should I bother to explain? I will, but not for your sake, because for the sake of others reading these comments, because I already know my pearls are being wasted on dogs who do not perceive the value of pearls. This is how paper money impoverishes the world:

As paper money is devalued day by day, the savings and incomes of the inhabitants of the world are worth less and less day by day, and as their incomes lag behind the devaluation then prices around them go up, which then causes them to need to enter into debt, and the debt is not given to them for free, it is given to them at interest, and so in this way those who issue this form of money become the owners of everything, while leaving the inhabitants of the world impoverished through devaluation, debt, then interest, which is why in Egypt what they make in one day in minimum wage in their paper money is sufficient enough to buy food for one day in America, it is the greatest ponzi scheme of thievery the world has ever seen.

So why does this form of money exist then? Because of dumb grunts who have no understand of what true money is, which is gold and silver, so they let themselves be subjected to this financial system.
 
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UnderGrace said:
Fiat money has value, so you are very mistaken here, it is derived from the relationship of supply and demand and the economic GDP, its sturdiness is based on the government issuing the money.
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Fiat money has perceived value, but not intrinsic value, because ultimately it is merely paper.
 
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gaviriachristian said:
Paper money is not "just money". You have no understanding what fiat currency is. Should I bother to explain? I will, but not for your sake, because for the sake of others reading these comments, because I already know my pearls are being wasted on dogs who do not perceive the value of pearls. This is how paper money impoverishes the world:

As paper money is devalued day by day, the savings and incomes of the inhabitants of the world are worth less and less day by day, and as their incomes lag behind the devaluation then prices around them go up, which then causes them to need to enter into debt, and the debt is not given to them for free, it is given to them at interest, and so in this way those who issue this form of money become the owners of everything, while leaving the inhabitants of the world impoverished through devaluation, debt, then interest, which is why in Egypt what they make in one day in minimum wage in their paper money is sufficient enough to buy food for one day in America, it is the greatest ponzi scheme of thievery the world has ever seen.

So why does this form of money exist then? Because of dumb grunts who have no understand of what true money is, which is gold and silver, so they let themselves be subjected to this financial system.
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Did you say anything here....no, not really.......!! Wisdom is justified of her children.....
 
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