people think they can call someone else unsaved

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kaylagrl

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My mom bought my sister a bran new car.... my sister is clean/tidy... her car "looked bran new", yet never had the oil changed in her old car.

Now I am a slob... I believe in living "confrontable".... when I finally run out of clean dishes, I will do the dishes... If you get in my car your feet don't hit the floor but the trash on the floor....

My mom has told me if I can keep my car clean she will buy me a new one too...

I took my car into the shop today to do the 60,000 mile maintenance...
I called my mom and compared myself to my sister... the person who takes care of the outside, letting go under the engine and vis versa...me....

She still said cleanness is next to godliness... lol... What ever my 2008 only has 58,000... I still have at least another 100,00,000... lol...

Now this is a true story and it made me think about the people that thinks someone can loose their Salvation because of sin others can see.

I honestly do not understand how you reconcile the sinner at the first of salvation and knowing we will never be without sin how we can lose our salvation in later years because we sin... even if the "floor is messy" and we try to "clean up or engine/heart"?

I honestly can not grasp losing ones salvation... Or more rightly what makes people think they can call someone else unsaved?

You can not lose your salvation, but you can walk away from the free gift. The Bible says we can know if we, or someone else, is saved, by our fruits.
 

Hevosmies

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#22
You can not lose your salvation, but you can walk away from the free gift. The Bible says we can know if we, or someone else, is saved, by our fruits.
This debate will never be solved I believe!

One side will quote the nothing shall separate us from God's love, John 3:16, acts 16:31 etc.
The other side will quote the abide in the vine, dont boast against the brances and have unbelief or you'll be cut off too, etc
 

YourTruthGod

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My mom bought my sister a bran new car.... my sister is clean/tidy... her car "looked bran new", yet never had the oil changed in her old car.

Now I am a slob... I believe in living "confrontable".... when I finally run out of clean dishes, I will do the dishes... If you get in my car your feet don't hit the floor but the trash on the floor....

My mom has told me if I can keep my car clean she will buy me a new one too...

I took my car into the shop today to do the 60,000 mile maintenance...
I called my mom and compared myself to my sister... the person who takes care of the outside, letting go under the engine and vis versa...me....

She still said cleanness is next to godliness... lol... What ever my 2008 only has 58,000... I still have at least another 100,00,000... lol...

Now this is a true story and it made me think about the people that thinks someone can loose their Salvation because of sin others can see.

I honestly do not understand how you reconcile the sinner at the first of salvation and knowing we will never be without sin how we can lose our salvation in later years because we sin... even if the "floor is messy" and we try to "clean up or engine/heart"?

I honestly can not grasp losing ones salvation... Or more rightly what makes people think they can call someone else unsaved?
We are to confess and repent of any sins we do after we are saved. We are to work out our salvation with trembling and fear. We are to train ourselves like a boxer going to go in a match, and or a runner for a race.
Why can't you work on the outside too?
 
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obedienttogod

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Yeshua instructed those without SIN, to cast the first stone.

Ultimately then, Yeshua proved by His command to cast the first stone to those without sin (and no one ever did cast a stone), that we really are all in a condition of sin, generally, the majority of the time (just being a human being makes you a sinner).

Understanding that we are then, typically in our natural sin nature, trying to defeat it through God, for the vast majority of our awakened lives...

...means, you ain't a lying if you say people are sinners, even those of us who are saved are still sinners...bbbbbbbbbbbbbbut I agree, being a sinner does not qualify you as being unsaved. Oh nah, it qualifies you as someone under the degree of Mercy and Grace!! And that Pedigree you can hang proudly upon your wall. Because that Pedigree certifies, You, qualify as a child of the Most High!!
 

YourTruthGod

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Yeshua instructed those without SIN, to cast the first stone.

Ultimately then, Yeshua proved by His command to cast the first stone to those without sin (and no one ever did cast a stone), that we really are all in a condition of sin, generally, the majority of the time (just being a human being makes you a sinner).

Understanding that we are then, typically in our natural sin nature, trying to defeat it through God, for the vast majority of our awakened lives...

...means, you ain't a lying if you say people are sinners, even those of us who are saved are still sinners...bbbbbbbbbbbbbbut I agree, being a sinner does not qualify you as being unsaved. Oh nah, it qualifies you as someone under the degree of Mercy and Grace!! And that Pedigree you can hang proudly upon your wall. Because that Pedigree certifies, You, qualify as a child of the Most High!!
We are not 'sinners in Christ', we are 'saints in Christ'.
 

Lanolin

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This was just an anology but since you asked...

My mom (birth mother) is rich... I am not.... (My MOM ((step-mother)) moved home in January from cancer).


She has bought my sister and two nieces new cars.... but never me... and has given my sister 5 cars when she (mom) bought new ones....

I am a Christian, my sister is not...

We are Jews... my mom disowned me until her Orthodox husband died; we have only started talking and having a relationship since 2012. I got saved 1991.

So my mom and I are a MERICAL! AND IF I NEVER GET ANYTHING FROM THAT WOMAN A RELATIONSIP IS A NOUGH AND A MERICAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This sounds rather complicated, wow 5 cars, is she a car collector, or what. Sorry am confused, which one is your mum or are they both. The one that loves you or the one that buys all the cars...?
You are a miracle..