Please help me to respond to some of my non-trinitarian friends
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From my friend:
Heb 1: 2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by His Son, whom He hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also He made the worlds; It is the Father who is speaking to us through His Son. Christ was already the Father's Son before our reality was created and before he became a human.
John 14 : 10-12 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? The words that I speak unto you, I speak not of myself; but the Father, that dwelleth in me, He doeth the works. Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me for the very works sake. Jesus is filled with the Father's Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is referred to as the "angel of His presence" in Isaiah 63:9-10. He is an angel because he can be sent, and where the Holy Spirit is, the Father is. The Holy Spirit does not speak his own words means that the words spoken are words that come from the Father. In other words, the function of the Holy Spirit is to be a portal through which the Father communicates, speaks through, enlightens, empowers, and changes the hearts of those indwelled by filling it with love.
John 12: 49-50 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father, who sent me, He gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak. And I know that His commandment is life everlasting; whatsoever I speak, therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.
The words spoken by Jesus in John 14: 9 were from the Father not from Jesus.
Heb 1: 2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by His Son, whom He hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also He made the worlds; It is the Father who is speaking to us through His Son. Christ was already the Father's Son before our reality was created and before he became a human.
John 14 : 10-12 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? The words that I speak unto you, I speak not of myself; but the Father, that dwelleth in me, He doeth the works. Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me for the very works sake. Jesus is filled with the Father's Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is referred to as the "angel of His presence" in Isaiah 63:9-10. He is an angel because he can be sent, and where the Holy Spirit is, the Father is. The Holy Spirit does not speak his own words means that the words spoken are words that come from the Father. In other words, the function of the Holy Spirit is to be a portal through which the Father communicates, speaks through, enlightens, empowers, and changes the hearts of those indwelled by filling it with love.
John 12: 49-50 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father, who sent me, He gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak. And I know that His commandment is life everlasting; whatsoever I speak, therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.
The words spoken by Jesus in John 14: 9 were from the Father not from Jesus.
This can be a difficult topic to speak about with people who don’t believe. It’s very easy for them to throw passages and put hurdles that can confuse the issues. They will throw the 'blind faith' card at you.
There are many passages to distract, a few examples;
Matt 24:36 - But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only.
Mark 10:18 - No one is good except God alone
Matt 15:9 - They worship Me in vain, teaching as doctrines the commands of men
John 5:30 of his own self, can do nothing
John 14:28 "The Father is greater than I
So on.....
You have to also remember Jesus was a Jew (I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel) as were many of his followers.
You’re going to need some long discussions
Who decided upon that definition?
When Israel in Assembly used to proclaim the 'Shama' in unison, it was to be heard by anyone listening in.
All the pagan nations around Israel worshiped gods.
God may have had Israel rebuffing them by saying to them, "The Lord "our Gods" is ONE."
It meant something meaningful in the world engulfed in paganism.
Israel in effect was making an open proclamation that opposed paganism.
Pagans hearing Jews in open assembly would be hearing something putting them down.
As for you, and your gods?
Our Lord, our Gods, is ONE!
Satan was always watching....
When Israel in Assembly used to proclaim the 'Shama' in unison, it was to be heard by anyone listening in.
All the pagan nations around Israel worshiped gods.
God may have had Israel rebuffing them by saying to them, "The Lord "our Gods" is ONE."
It meant something meaningful in the world engulfed in paganism.
Israel in effect was making an open proclamation that opposed paganism.
Pagans hearing Jews in open assembly would be hearing something putting them down.
As for you, and your gods?
Our Lord, our Gods, is ONE!
Satan was always watching....