Plight of the palestinians

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So all believers are going to inhabit this land in future, ok.
There won't be anyone but believers in it. .

Mathew 13:41-42
The Son of Man will send out his angels, and they will weed out of his kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil.
They will throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.



Mathew 8:11-12
And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven.
But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.




Rest assured,Benjamin netanyahu and his goons won't be found there .
 
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They all are until they aren't. Unfortunately the "prophet" never submits to the biblical penalty for being wrong.
So far,Daniel been pretty right.Ever since I started reading his prophecies.Im starting to get close to the end of the chapter so if I don't soon die,I should get to the end of it.
 
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Apples and oranges. America didn't belong to Americans then others came and tried to push them out. Israel has a history of 3000 yrs and there have always been Jews there as much as other have tried to turn them out. Palestinians are Arabs. When the Jews came back to Israel, their own land, after the Holocaust the Arabs were given a chance at dividing the land then. They refused it even through they were given the best part of the land and the Jews desert land. Now they want to turn around and say they deserve land. No! They don't!! They have been offered everything they could possibly want, except the Jews to be expelled from their own country. Even Bill Clinton said the Arabs couldn't be pleased. Your comparison has nothing to do with the history of what has happened in Israel.
Yes yes continue with your hypocrisy and ignoring the bloody history of the US.

If Jews have the exclusive ownership of Israel then Native Americans have the exclusive ownership of America. End of the talk.
 

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There won't be anyone but believers in it. .

Mathew 13:41-42
The Son of Man will send out his angels, and they will weed out of his kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil.
They will throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.



Mathew 8:11-12
And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven.
But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.




Rest assured,Benjamin netanyahu and his goons won't be found there .

I do not agree with your eschatology so we will leave it at that.
 
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I do not agree with your eschatology so we will leave it at that.
Sounds like your not planning on going.
I have to travel east myself.I would be one of those who come from the west in the following verse

Mathew 8:11-12
And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven.
But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.


Well,maybe you will change your mind and decide to attend the feast.
 

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Yes yes continue with your hypocrisy and ignoring the bloody history of the US.

If Jews have the exclusive ownership of Israel then Native Americans have the exclusive ownership of America. End of the talk.
If you are not allowed to criticize "someone/nation" then they are your master.

“In other words, though they did NOT believe in God, He had nonetheless promised them Palestine.”
Ilan Pappé, (Jewish descent) Ten Myths About Israel
 

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Sounds like your not planning on going.
I have to travel east myself.I would be one of those who come from the west in the following verse

Mathew 8:11-12
And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven.
But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.


Well,maybe you will change your mind and decide to attend the feast.
Jesus fulfilled all He promised. Amen
Read Josephus that might help.
 
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Jesus fulfilled all He promised. Amen
Read Josephus that might help.
Did Josephus witness the second coming of Christ?


29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
 

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Would like a more detailed examination of the peace talks and the truth about why they failed.... most people do not, they prefer the lies of the media and their government!
But of course you are the repository of the whole truth! :ROFL:
 

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The promises were not to the beast which the people of Israel worship today.

That beast will be cast into the lake of fire,then the kingdom is given to the saints who are in Christ.

Daniel 7

24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.

25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

26 But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.

27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.

28 Hitherto is the end of the matter. As for me Daniel, my cogitations much troubled me, and my countenance changed in me: but I kept the matter in my heart.
Israel may have deception among them but it will all be straightened out.

The disciples asked Jesus if He was going to restore the kingdom to them at that time, and He said it is not for them to know the times and seasons the Father has put in His own power.

The Bible says Israel is blinded in part until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in which is when salvation is no longer available to them, and so all Israel shall be saved.

God said if the ordinances of the heaven are operating, the sun, moon, and stars, then His covenant is still with Israel, and they shall not cease to be a nation.

Paul said God has not cast away His people that He once foreknew.

God said He is going to gather the whole house of Israel all 12 tribes back to their land, and leave none of them in the nations anymore, and they shall know the LORD their God from that time forward, and He will never hide His face from them again, which Israel as a nation will be in the truth from that time forward, and never stray again.

Israel does not replace the Church, but the Church is Israel, so the nation of Israel has to come to the truth before the millennial reign can begin, and the saints are at the New Jerusalem.

Which when a Gentile is saved they are a Jew inward, and belong to the commonwealth of Israel.

Which the 12 tribes of Israel, and the 12 apostles of the Lamb are written in the New Jerusalem.

Dan 7:1 In the first year of Belshazzar king of Babylon Daniel had a dream and visions of his head upon his bed: then he wrote the dream, and told the sum of the matters.
Dan 7:2 Daniel spake and said, I saw in my vision by night, and, behold, the four winds of the heaven strove upon the great sea.
Dan 7:3 And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse one from another.

Daniel had a vision of 4 kingdoms that would arise one after the other which they were different than each other which is the 4 ways of people.

Although all 4 kingdoms went by all 4 ways 1 of those ways was their chief mode of operation with the other 3 in a minor mode whatever the ratio was.

Dan 7:4 The first was like a lion, and had eagle's wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man's heart was given to it.

The first was Babylon which represents human religion, the occult.

It had eagle's wings for they had the revelation of the God of Israel, and he was the greatest God of the gods, which king Nebuchadnezzar proclaimed throughout his kingdom that no person could say anything amiss against the God of Israel or they would be cut in pieces, and their house made a dunghill.

But his son blew it and the eagle's wings were plucked, and they were then known as the kingdom of man, and their kingdom given to another.

Dan 7:5 And behold another beast, a second, like to a bear, and it raised up itself on one side, and it had three ribs in the mouth of it between the teeth of it: and they said thus unto it, Arise, devour much flesh.

The second is Medo-Persia which represents physical cruelty in war, or going against others in physical attack.

It raised itself up on one side for the Persian influence was more dominant in that union.

It had 3 ribs in the mouth of it which is probably 2 nations that they conquered, and they were then in league with them adding power to them.

Dan 7:6 After this I beheld, and lo another, like a leopard, which had upon the back of it four wings of a fowl; the beast had also four heads; and dominion was given to it.

The third was Greece which represents human wisdom which the 4 wings of a fowl could mean they flew above the other nations in higher medicine, mathematics, philosophy, science, and whatever it was.

It had 4 heads which when Alexander died his kingdom was split in to 4 sections, and a general ruled each section.

Dan 7:7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.
Dan 7:8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.

Dan 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.
Dan 7:24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.

The fourth beast is the Roman Empire that represents pushing for power, territory, world domination, which they were different than the other 3 that they were more determined to conquer, and seize control of other lands.

10 horns shall come from them which is in the future which is the world split in to 10 sections with a leader in each section.

Which they shall devour the whole world, break it in pieces, and stamp upon the residue of it.

Which is by way of the new age movement(1 Timothy 4:1-5; 2 Timothy 4:2-4), which they interpret the Bible according to the occult and evolution, and people are evolving to be spiritual, and there is no personal God.

Which the new age movement is a Caucasian led plan which is their religion, and reality now, which shall be the only religious system that they will embrace in the future with all religions interpreted by them.

Which the United Nations supports new age organizations, and is with them as well as Science.

Which they believe aliens are going to help mankind have peace, advance, and evolve, which they talk about the return of the gods.

Which Science says human are not from the earth, and the world needs to prepare for an alien encounter.

The little horn, New Age Christ, shall come from the 10 horns, and be from the people that overthrew Jerusalem, so he will be a Caucasian man.

He will negotiate peace in the Middle East resulting in a 7 years peace treaty, and the world will go to a one world government.

The 10 leaders shall support the New Age Christ, and he will push the agenda of the new age movement which he will think to change times and laws, and he will become the biggest player on the world scene.

Dan 7:11 I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame.
Dan 7:12 As concerning the rest of the beasts, they had their dominion taken away: yet their lives were prolonged for a season and time.

The Roman Empire has the physical dominion until Jesus puts the world down, and the saints take over the Earth.

The other 3 beasts shall never have physical dominion again, but their lives were prolonged for a time and season, which means their ways are still on Earth and they all show up at the beast kingdom.

Which Daniel 2 it is the same vision of the 4 kingdoms and when Jesus hits the 10 toes of statue, which is the same as the 10 horns, then all 4 kingdoms topple.

Rev 13:1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
Rev 13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

All 4 kingdoms in their chief mode of operation are at the beast kingdom which is the kingdom of man in its entirety.

Which is a kingdom that has never happened in the past.

It is the chief mode of operation of the Roman Empire which is the physical dominion of the beast.

It is the chief mode of operation of the lion, Babylon, which is human religion, the occult, and the kingdom of man.

Babylon will never have physical dominion again so this is Babylon in spirit for she represents human religion, the occult, and the kingdom of man which is what the beast kingdom is about by way of the new age movement.

It is the chief mode of operation of the bear, Medo-Perisa, to make physical war with all people that oppose them trying to get rid of them which God said the new age movement their conscious is seared with a hot iron, and the last king, New Age Christ, antichrist, by peace shall destroy many.

It is the chief mode of operation of the leopard, Greece, which is human wisdom.

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Continued from above post

When the New Age Christ negotiates peace in the Middle East the nations government will come together for a one world government.

It will pave the way for all Hebrews to go to Israel for the Gentile nations will make it happen, and the New Age Christ wants them all back on their land, but God means it for good towards them.

There will be no Hebrews left in the nations.

For the first three and one half years they will prepare the cities to move all people to the cities, and no development can happen outside city limits, and the people become the police force of the cities.

Which is United Nations Agenda 21, a sustainability act, which 179 nations agreed to it in 1992, and it is more popular now.

When the people are moved to the cities then they will be given a microchip linked to satellite like a GPS tracking system for humans.

They will know the location of people, can track their movements, and watch them, and if a crime happens they will know who was in the area, and how close they were to the crime scene.

This will cut out judges, lawyers, and the now known police force.

All information about the person will be on the chip including finances for it is the one world economic system, which no person can buy or sell except those that have the chip.

The New Age Christ's agenda is there is no personal God to help mankind, but mankind's technology, and devices, can help to have peace on earth.

Which the microchip will be the mark of the beast for it is the world's solution to have peace not acknowledging a personal God.

They talk about angel numbers, and the angel number 666 which they believe is a good number according to the Cosmos.

They want to convince the world that if they embrace the number 666 the world will have the power to have peace, advance, and evolve.

The occult believes in the power of numbers, and the timing, adding, and grouping of numbers, which they will give them more power through nature.

6 is the number of a person, or the soul of a person, so the New Age Christ assigned himself the number 666, a triple 6, for he believes it will give him more power through nature.

666 is a number in the occult that exalts people.

Rev 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
Rev 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

chi xi stigma
khee xee stig'-ma
The 22nd, 14th and an obsolete letter (G4742 as a cross) of the Greek alphabet (intermediate between the 5th and 6th), used as numbers; denoting respectively 600, 60 and 6; 666 as a numeral: - six hundred threescore and six.

stigma
stig'-mah
From a primary word στίζω stizō (to “stick”, that is, prick); a mark incised or punched (for recognition of ownership), that is, (figuratively) scar of service: - mark.

The mark of the beast is something stuck under something for identification, and since it is given to a person then it is stuck under the skin to identify them, and all information about them on the chip, and to be able to track them to deter crime.

When the world takes the mark of the beast then salvation is no longer available to the Gentiles, and God will send Israel 2 witnesses to turn them to the truth that Jesus is their Messiah, and at the end of that time Israel as a nation will be in the truth.

And then the kingdom on Earth will be restored to Israel.
 

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Did Josephus witness the second coming of Christ?


29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
I will leave that up to you, we are each on a journey towards truth hopefully.
 
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Continued from above post

When the New Age Christ negotiates peace in the Middle East the nations government will come together for a one world government.

It will pave the way for all Hebrews to go to Israel for the Gentile nations will make it happen, and the New Age Christ wants them all back on their land, but God means it for good towards them.

There will be no Hebrews left in the nations.

For the first three and one half years they will prepare the cities to move all people to the cities, and no development can happen outside city limits, and the people become the police force of the cities.

Which is United Nations Agenda 21, a sustainability act, which 179 nations agreed to it in 1992, and it is more popular now.

When the people are moved to the cities then they will be given a microchip linked to satellite like a GPS tracking system for humans.

They will know the location of people, can track their movements, and watch them, and if a crime happens they will know who was in the area, and how close they were to the crime scene.

This will cut out judges, lawyers, and the now known police force.

All information about the person will be on the chip including finances for it is the one world economic system, which no person can buy or sell except those that have the chip.

The New Age Christ's agenda is there is no personal God to help mankind, but mankind's technology, and devices, can help to have peace on earth.

Which the microchip will be the mark of the beast for it is the world's solution to have peace not acknowledging a personal God.

They talk about angel numbers, and the angel number 666 which they believe is a good number according to the Cosmos.

They want to convince the world that if they embrace the number 666 the world will have the power to have peace, advance, and evolve.

The occult believes in the power of numbers, and the timing, adding, and grouping of numbers, which they will give them more power through nature.

6 is the number of a person, or the soul of a person, so the New Age Christ assigned himself the number 666, a triple 6, for he believes it will give him more power through nature.

666 is a number in the occult that exalts people.

Rev 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
Rev 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

chi xi stigma
khee xee stig'-ma
The 22nd, 14th and an obsolete letter (G4742 as a cross) of the Greek alphabet (intermediate between the 5th and 6th), used as numbers; denoting respectively 600, 60 and 6; 666 as a numeral: - six hundred threescore and six.

stigma
stig'-mah
From a primary word στίζω stizō (to “stick”, that is, prick); a mark incised or punched (for recognition of ownership), that is, (figuratively) scar of service: - mark.

The mark of the beast is something stuck under something for identification, and since it is given to a person then it is stuck under the skin to identify them, and all information about them on the chip, and to be able to track them to deter crime.

When the world takes the mark of the beast then salvation is no longer available to the Gentiles, and God will send Israel 2 witnesses to turn them to the truth that Jesus is their Messiah, and at the end of that time Israel as a nation will be in the truth.

And then the kingdom on Earth will be restored to Israel.

The world is not given the mark of the beast.
The only people who receive the mark of the beast are the people who followed after the beast from all the nations.

The Jews have been following the beast ever since it's deadly wound was healed in 1948.

What the beast needs is a good spokesperson or two like yourself to convince everyone in his kingdom to receive his mark.

Need some volunteers to send to israel.in Jesus name.
Are you up for it?
 

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There are churches in both the West Bank and Gaza strip. Do your search.
They left...too unsafe.
I have missionary friends around the globe...the missionaries in Palestine left long ago. There were a few left before this latest conflict...but they left and had to abandon their churches (which were shells of what they used to be)

Christians communities have left Lebanon and Palestinian controlled areas. Abuse and persecution drove them away.

So what do you do with those who cheer the rape, murder, and the desecration of the corpses of the innocents? And the "Palestinians" definitely were cheering. Too many videos exist of the cheering to be denied. (Although some unsuccessfully try because they are liars)

Then the question comes: Why will no other nation take in the refugees? Egypt is adamant about not letting a single one in. Lots of fencing, razor wire and fully automatic guns all aimed at "Palestinians". Maybe because they had been kicked out of Egypt before (just exactly like I explained earlier)
Why won't Lebanon allow them in?
Why won't Jordan take them either?
What's wrong with Iraq, Iran, or Saudis? They don't want them either.

The Jews are welcome but not the "Palestinians". Why is that?

Maybe because "Pallywood" has made too many fake videos of things that never happened. Maybe because of all the help has been used for fundraising more money that lines the pockets of a few.

When "Palestinian" fisherman don't have any nets (and haven't for a long time) but know all about how to smuggle weapons.
 
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They left...too unsafe.
I have missionary friends around the globe...the missionaries in Palestine left long ago. There were a few left before this latest conflict...but they left and had to abandon their churches (which were shells of what they used to be)

Christians communities have left Lebanon and Palestinian controlled areas. Abuse and persecution drove them away.

So what do you do with those who cheer the rape, murder, and the desecration of the corpses of the innocents? And the "Palestinians" definitely were cheering. Too many videos exist of the cheering to be denied. (Although some unsuccessfully try because they are liars)

Then the question comes: Why will no other nation take in the refugees? Egypt is adamant about not letting a single one in. Lots of fencing, razor wire and fully automatic guns all aimed at "Palestinians". Maybe because they had been kicked out of Egypt before (just exactly like I explained earlier)
Why won't Lebanon allow them in?
Why won't Jordan take them either?
What's wrong with Iraq, Iran, or Saudis? They don't want them either.

The Jews are welcome but not the "Palestinians". Why is that?

Maybe because "Pallywood" has made too many fake videos of things that never happened. Maybe because of all the help has been used for fundraising more money that lines the pockets of a few.

When "Palestinian" fisherman don't have any nets (and haven't for a long time) but know all about how to smuggle weapons.

How many lies are you going to tell ?
Just because your missionary friends are cowards doesnt mean there are not churches in Gaza and the west bank .


Opinion: Palestinian Christians are losing loved ones in Israel’s bombing in Gaza. Where’s the outcry from Western Christian communities?


Like other Palestinians and Israelis with family members in Palestine/Israel, I have found the latest and unprecedented outbreak of violence between Israel and Hamas hitting closer and closer to home. My dread became reality on Oct. 20 upon hearing from Tanya, one of my relatives. Her family lost a loved one who had been sheltering in the Greek Orthodox Church of St. Porphyrius in Gaza, one of the world’s oldest churches. An Israeli airstrike hit one of the four compounds of the church, killing 18 Palestinian Christians, and injuring at least 20.


https://www.latimes.com/opinion/sto...istians-church-bombing-baptisms-st-porphyrius



This is about as big a lie as you paying for an airport.
 

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How many lies are you going to tell ?
Just because your missionary friends are cowards doesnt mean there are not churches in Gaza and the west bank .


Opinion: Palestinian Christians are losing loved ones in Israel’s bombing in Gaza. Where’s the outcry from Western Christian communities?


Like other Palestinians and Israelis with family members in Palestine/Israel, I have found the latest and unprecedented outbreak of violence between Israel and Hamas hitting closer and closer to home. My dread became reality on Oct. 20 upon hearing from Tanya, one of my relatives. Her family lost a loved one who had been sheltering in the Greek Orthodox Church of St. Porphyrius in Gaza, one of the world’s oldest churches. An Israeli airstrike hit one of the four compounds of the church, killing 18 Palestinian Christians, and injuring at least 20.


https://www.latimes.com/opinion/sto...istians-church-bombing-baptisms-st-porphyrius



This is about as big a lie as you paying for an airport.
I'm gonna put you on complete ignore....

You are incapable of the truth. You've never addressed the rape, murder, desecration corpses of the innocent. The best you have done is post pro Palestinian propaganda news rag to say Christians are still in Palestinian lands (which Palestinians are squatters on and truthfully have no rights to....the trash testifies to that)

Bye. You are a waste of time due to the lies.