Plight of the palestinians

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ThereRoseaLamb

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Not according to the New Testament. It is Jesus who is the "seed of the woman" as God told Satan in Eden and Jesus who is the seed of Abraham. Read Galatians chapter 3.
I'm talking about who inherits the land. That's what this whole argument has been about.
 
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You can preach to christians.
You should read the link you provided.Try to read past the headline this time.


It's illegal to preach to minors(anyone under 18) just as I said.The law was passed on Christmas day 1977.


The 1977 Israeli Penal Code prohibits the proselytization of minors without the consent of their parents, as well as religious conversion in exchange for material benefit.
 
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Can't you read Scripture?! The land belongs to the Jews. You're so full of hate you can't even agree what the Bible says. Romans 11 says they will be saved, whether you like it or not.
You are preaching replacement theology.

You don't want Jesus to receive the kingdom promised to him.You believe it belongs to antichrist.
 
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I'm talking about who inherits the land. That's what this whole argument has been about.
The heir is who inherits the land.
The kingdom belongs to it's king who is Christ.

Why do you hate Christ and don't want him to inherit his kingdom?
This is when the heir inherits his kingdom.

15 The seventh angel sounded his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven, which said:

The kingdom of the world has become
the kingdom of our Lord and of his Messiah,

and he will reign for ever and ever.”



Why do you preach the kingdom is inherited by the people who oppose Christ?His enemies.I highlighted where the word plainly states the kingdom becomes our Lord and his Messiah.The Messiah is Jesus.Not Benjamin netanyahu who you are supporting.Benjamin netanyahu is a lier and deciever.He is not the heir.He does not inherit the kingdom forever.
 
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1. North Korea - Atheist

2. Afghanistan- Islam

3. Somalia- Islam

4. Libya- Islam

5. Pakistan- Islam

6. Syria-Islam

7. Yemen -Islam

8. Iran- Islam

9. Sudan- Islam

10. India- Hindu

11. Maldives- Islam

12. Saudi Arabia - Islam

13.Uzbekistan - Islam

14. Vietnam - Atheist Communists /Buddhism

15. Central African Republic - Islam

16. Qatar - Islam

17. Kenya - Islam

18. Turkmenistan- Islam

19. Ethiopia- Islam

20. Egypt- Islam

21. Djibouti - Islam

22.Burma -Buddhist

23. Eritrea - People's Front for Democracy and Justice

24. Iraq - Islam

25. Turkey - Islam


I could continue to 50, get the picture yet? Look it up for yourself.

Who did Jesus say is responsible for all the righteous blood shed upon the earth,?


Revelation 20
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.


None of these saints die in any of the countries on your list.They all die in Israel doing what Jesus commands them to do in the gospel.

You don't even realize what nation these people are of.Who kills them or why.You believe they are gentiles who are killed in gentile nations.

Revelation 20

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Who did Jesus say is responsible for all the righteous blood shed upon the earth,?


Revelation 20
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.


None of these saints die in any of the countries on your list.They all die in Israel doing what Jesus commands them to do in the gospel.

You don't even realize what nation these people are of.Who kills them or why.You believe they are gentiles who are killed in gentile nations.

Revelation 20

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

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This is who we have been arguing about.
You don't even know who the argument is about.You dont know who reigns with Christ in the land of Israel .


Who did Jesus say is responsible for all the righteous blood shed upon the earth,?Do you not know the words of our Lord Jesus Christ?


Revelation 20
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.


None of these saints die in any of the countries on your list.They all die in Israel doing what Jesus commands them to do in the gospel.

You don't even realize what nation these people are of.Who kills them or why.You believe they are gentiles who are killed in gentile nations.

Revelation 20

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.



Do you even know who God promised would be a kingdom of priests and a holy nation as in revelation 20:6 above?
 

Nehemiah6

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The heir is who inherits the land.
The kingdom belongs to it's king who is Christ
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You really are quite confused about this whole subject.

The kingdom belongs to Christ but THE LAND was promised to the descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob -- the twelve tribes of Israel (Gen 15:18-21), In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed [descendants] have I given this land, from the river of Egypt [the Nile] unto the great river, the river Euphrates: The Kenites, and the Kenizzites, and the Kadmonites, And the Hittites, and the Perizzites, and the Rephaims, And the Amorites, and the Canaanites, and the Girgashites, and the Jebusites.

This has never been fulfilled, but will be so after the Second Coming of Christ. And it will be only for believing Jews at that time.
 

Nehemiah6

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The kingdom is in the land.
Do you see your absurdity? The land is in the Kingdom not vice versa. And you were given the exact covenant and what it means, but you ignored that. As for the rest of your post, it is a complete misinterpretation. You would be wise to stop talking about prophetic matters.
 
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You really are quite confused about this whole subject.

The kingdom belongs to Christ but THE LAND was promised to the descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob -- the twelve tribes of Israel (Gen 15:18-21), In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed [descendants] have I given this land, from the river of Egypt [the Nile] unto the great river, the river Euphrates: The Kenites, and the Kenizzites, and the Kadmonites, And the Hittites, and the Perizzites, and the Rephaims, And the Amorites, and the Canaanites, and the Girgashites, and the Jebusites.

This has never been fulfilled, but will be so after the Second Coming of Christ. And it will be only for believing Jews at that time.

The kingdom ruled by Christ is in the land.Itbis he land of Israel

And no ,I'm not confused.
The believing Israelis will be killed for their testimony of Jesus in the land of Israel . They will be killed by the Israeli governor which is the beast.

I don't support the beast but there are several people on this board who do.
 
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Do you see your absurdity? The land is in the Kingdom not vice versa. And you were given the exact covenant and what it means, but you ignored that. As for the rest of your post, it is a complete misinterpretation. You would be wise to stop talking about prophetic matters.
The borders of the kingdom are given in the bible.Magog ,Persia and Ethiopia are not in that kingdom.

Magog ,Persia and Ethiopia are not everlasting kingdoms and will be destroyed.
 
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Do you see your absurdity? The land is in the Kingdom not vice versa. And you were given the exact covenant and what it means, but you ignored that. As for the rest of your post, it is a complete misinterpretation. You would be wise to stop talking about prophetic matters.
You don't even know what we are talking about.
Ever heard of the promised land?
The land promised to Abrahams seed?
 
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Do you see your absurdity? The land is in the Kingdom not vice versa. And you were given the exact covenant and what it means, but you ignored that. As for the rest of your post, it is a complete misinterpretation. You would be wise to stop talking about prophetic matters.
You don't even know what we are talking about.
Ever heard of the promised land?
The land promised to Abrahams seed?

Galatians 3:16
The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. Scripture does not say “and to seeds,” meaning many people, but “and to your seed,” meaning one person, who is Christ.


My argument is the promises were made to Christ as Galatians 3:16 says.


Thererosealamb says the promises were to the people in Israel who deny Christ such as Benjamin netanyahu and all of the Israeli government which denies Jesus is the Christ.

1 John 2:22
Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist—denying the Father and the Son.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Why do you preach the kingdom is inherited by the people who oppose Christ?His enemies.
Of course Christ will reign from Jerusalem!!!! But God also made a covenant with the Jewish people.

And I will bring again the captivity of my people of Israel, and they shall build the waste cities, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and drink the wine thereof; they shall also make gardens, and eat the fruit of them. And I will plant them upon their land, and they shall no more be pulled up out of their land which I have given them, saith the LORD thy God.



“Before she goes into labor,
she gives birth;
before the pains come upon her,
she delivers a son.
8 Who has ever heard of such things?
Who has ever seen things like this?
Can a country be born in a day
or a nation be brought forth in a moment?
Yet no sooner is Zion in labor
than she gives birth to her children.


Israel is the nation that was born in a day.

God put Abraham in a deep sleep and He made a covenant with him. It was everlasting and unconditional. Those verses have already been shared by several of us here.

12x the Bible says the promise is everlasting. God swore and oath, and He will keep it.

The line goes from Abraham, Issac, to Jacob.

11 And God said to him, “I am God Almighty[f]; be fruitful and increase in number. A nation and a community of nations will come from you, and kings will be among your descendants. 12 The land I gave to Abraham and Isaac I also give to you, and I will give this land to your descendants after you.”

Micah - “I will surely assemble all of you, O Jacob, I will surely gather the remnant of Israel; I will put them together like sheep of the fold, Like a flock in the midst of their pasture

Ezek. “Therefore this is what the Sovereign Lord says: I will now restore the fortunes of Jacob[d] and will have compassion on all the people of Israel

27 When I have brought them back from the nations and have gathered them from the countries of their enemies, I will be proved holy through them in the sight of many nations. 28 Then they will know that I am the Lord their God, for though I sent them into exile among the nations, I will gather them to their own land, not leaving any behind. 29 I will no longer hide my face from them, for I will pour out my Spirit on the people of Israel, declares the Sovereign Lord.”

God will restore His relationship with Israel, He will heal them, His chosen people.

Zech.
I will refine them like silver
and test them like gold.
They will call on my name
and I will answer them;
I will say, ‘They are my people,’
and they will say, ‘The Lord is our God.’”


The Church doesn't replace the Jews. God will heal and restore them. He will keep His promises to them. Period.
 
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Of course Christ will reign from Jerusalem!!!! But God also made a covenant with the Jewish people.

And I will bring again the captivity of my people of Israel, and they shall build the waste cities, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and drink the wine thereof; they shall also make gardens, and eat the fruit of them. And I will plant them upon their land, and they shall no more be pulled up out of their land which I have given them, saith the LORD thy God.



“Before she goes into labor,
she gives birth;
before the pains come upon her,
she delivers a son.
8 Who has ever heard of such things?
Who has ever seen things like this?
Can a country be born in a day
or a nation be brought forth in a moment?
Yet no sooner is Zion in labor
than she gives birth to her children.


Israel is the nation that was born in a day.

God put Abraham in a deep sleep and He made a covenant with him. It was everlasting and unconditional. Those verses have already been shared by several of us here.

12x the Bible says the promise is everlasting. God swore and oath, and He will keep it.

The line goes from Abraham, Issac, to Jacob.

11 And God said to him, “I am God Almighty[f]; be fruitful and increase in number. A nation and a community of nations will come from you, and kings will be among your descendants. 12 The land I gave to Abraham and Isaac I also give to you, and I will give this land to your descendants after you.”

Micah - “I will surely assemble all of you, O Jacob, I will surely gather the remnant of Israel; I will put them together like sheep of the fold, Like a flock in the midst of their pasture

Ezek. “Therefore this is what the Sovereign Lord says: I will now restore the fortunes of Jacob[d] and will have compassion on all the people of Israel

27 When I have brought them back from the nations and have gathered them from the countries of their enemies, I will be proved holy through them in the sight of many nations. 28 Then they will know that I am the Lord their God, for though I sent them into exile among the nations, I will gather them to their own land, not leaving any behind. 29 I will no longer hide my face from them, for I will pour out my Spirit on the people of Israel, declares the Sovereign Lord.”

God will restore His relationship with Israel, He will heal them, His chosen people.

Zech.
I will refine them like silver
and test them like gold.
They will call on my name
and I will answer them;
I will say, ‘They are my people,’
and they will say, ‘The Lord is our God.’”


The Church doesn't replace the Jews. God will heal and restore them. He will keep His promises to them. Period.
The nation Israel spoken of being born in a day is not that antichrist beast which governs the promised land today.

The nation of Israel which is born in one day is the nation which comes out of their graves the day Christ comes and reigns in that kingdom.

That kingdom is not founded till Christ comes.

Revelation 11
15 The seventh angel sounded his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven, which said:

“The kingdom of the world has become
the kingdom of our Lord and of his Messiah,
and he will reign for ever and ever.”
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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You can preach to christians.
You should read the link you provided.Try to read past the headline this time.


It's illegal to preach to minors(anyone under 18) just as I said.The law was passed on Christmas day 1977.


The 1977 Israeli Penal Code prohibits the proselytization of minors without the consent of their parents, as well as religious conversion in exchange for material benefit.
Your not allowed to preach to Jews in Israel now are you.

Go throughout Israel preaching the gospel to the lost sheep of the house of Israel as Jesus commanded and watch what happens to you.


You were wrong on BOTH counts.

You preach the gospel to a Jewish minor and it's 5 years in prison .

The second, section 368 of the Penal Code, forbids persuading or encouraging a minor (under the age of 18) to change his religion. This law also forbids to conduct any ceremony for a minor to change religion, without the consent of both parents.

It’s important to note that there have been cases where the police stopped and detained people who were accused of illegal missionary activity in Israel, but no one has been charged or sentenced according to these laws.

Wrong again!!
 
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Of course Christ will reign from Jerusalem!!!! But God also made a covenant with the Jewish people.

And I will bring again the captivity of my people of Israel, and they shall build the waste cities, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and drink the wine thereof; they shall also make gardens, and eat the fruit of them. And I will plant them upon their land, and they shall no more be pulled up out of their land which I have given them, saith the LORD thy God.



“Before she goes into labor,
she gives birth;
before the pains come upon her,
she delivers a son.
8 Who has ever heard of such things?
Who has ever seen things like this?
Can a country be born in a day
or a nation be brought forth in a moment?
Yet no sooner is Zion in labor
than she gives birth to her children.


Israel is the nation that was born in a day.

God put Abraham in a deep sleep and He made a covenant with him. It was everlasting and unconditional. Those verses have already been shared by several of us here.

12x the Bible says the promise is everlasting. God swore and oath, and He will keep it.

The line goes from Abraham, Issac, to Jacob.

11 And God said to him, “I am God Almighty[f]; be fruitful and increase in number. A nation and a community of nations will come from you, and kings will be among your descendants. 12 The land I gave to Abraham and Isaac I also give to you, and I will give this land to your descendants after you.”

Micah - “I will surely assemble all of you, O Jacob, I will surely gather the remnant of Israel; I will put them together like sheep of the fold, Like a flock in the midst of their pasture

Ezek. “Therefore this is what the Sovereign Lord says: I will now restore the fortunes of Jacob[d] and will have compassion on all the people of Israel

27 When I have brought them back from the nations and have gathered them from the countries of their enemies, I will be proved holy through them in the sight of many nations. 28 Then they will know that I am the Lord their God, for though I sent them into exile among the nations, I will gather them to their own land, not leaving any behind. 29 I will no longer hide my face from them, for I will pour out my Spirit on the people of Israel, declares the Sovereign Lord.”

God will restore His relationship with Israel, He will heal them, His chosen people.

Zech.
I will refine them like silver
and test them like gold.
They will call on my name
and I will answer them;
I will say, ‘They are my people,’
and they will say, ‘The Lord is our God.’”


The Church doesn't replace the Jews. God will heal and restore them. He will keep His promises to them. Period.

You still don't know what kingdom this is ,do you?

Revelation 20

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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You are preaching replacement theology.

You don't want Jesus to receive the kingdom promised to him.You believe it belongs to antichrist.

Replacement Theology - Supersessionism, also called replacement theology,is a Christian theological opinion that describes the idea that the Christian Church has superseded the nation of Israel assuming their role as God's covenanted people, thus asserting that the New Covenant through Jesus Christ has superseded or replaced the Mosaic covenant. Supersessionism also holds that the universal Christian Church has replaced ancient Israel as God's true Israel and that Christians have replaced the biological bloodline of ancient Israelites as the people of God.

Wrong again!! Not a good day for you. smh
 
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Your not allowed to preach to Jews in Israel now are you.

Go throughout Israel preaching the gospel to the lost sheep of the house of Israel as Jesus commanded and watch what happens to you.

You were wrong on BOTH counts.

You preach the gospel to a Jewish minor and it's 5 years in prison .

The second, section 368 of the Penal Code, forbids persuading or encouraging a minor (under the age of 18) to change his religion. This law also forbids to conduct any ceremony for a minor to change religion, without the consent of both parents.

It’s important to note that there have been cases where the police stopped and detained people who were accused of illegal missionary activity in Israel, but no one has been charged or sentenced according to these laws.

Wrong again!!
Just because no one has been charged doesn't. Mean it's illegal.

It's illegal to preach the gospel to a minor in Israel without the parents consent.period.

You can also be imprisoned for up to 5 years without being changed with a crime.Did you know that?
 
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Replacement Theology - Supersessionism, also called replacement theology,is a Christian theological opinion that describes the idea that the Christian Church has superseded the nation of Israel assuming their role as God's covenanted people, thus asserting that the New Covenant through Jesus Christ has superseded or replaced the Mosaic covenant. Supersessionism also holds that the universal Christian Church has replaced ancient Israel as God's true Israel and that Christians have replaced the biological bloodline of ancient Israelites as the people of God.

Wrong again!! Not a good day for you. smh
Galatians ,3:16

16 The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. Scripture does not say “and to seeds,” meaning many people, but “and to your seed,”[a] meaning one person, who is Christ.


Your the one replacing Christ with antichrist.