Wasnt sure where to post this one.. I often see ladies in my church wearing clothing that is not appropriate for the house of God. I know im not supposed to be looking, but it is a great temptation. I dont mean to throw stones. but if you are popping out of you top.. or you skirt too short... dont wear that to church.. it is disrespectful to the house of God.... and i may cause a brother to stumble// just wondered if anyone had any thoughts on this issue
proper attire in church
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Well I don't think ladies should be that 'exposed' in church
But I am all for people going to church in the clothes they feel comfortable in
In my youth I went to a church and I had to wear my 'sunday best'
And almost all there did the same
Suit and tie, for the men, women with the latest fashion of hats
My Father called the church a fashion parade(he wasn't overly religious)
I started gonig to church in jeans in the end. I think God is more concerned with the heart and people worshipping him in spirit and truth with love for others than how they are dressed.
But I am all for people going to church in the clothes they feel comfortable in
In my youth I went to a church and I had to wear my 'sunday best'
And almost all there did the same
Suit and tie, for the men, women with the latest fashion of hats
My Father called the church a fashion parade(he wasn't overly religious)
I started gonig to church in jeans in the end. I think God is more concerned with the heart and people worshipping him in spirit and truth with love for others than how they are dressed.
You could always pluck your eyes out right. They haven't learned the dress code yet have they. Are you taking good looks before you complain about there attire? Hummmmmmmm! Take the log out of your own eye. I'm sure you have many things you could improve on instead of minding others business and being a condemner. Like studies on God takes people as they are. He is looking at there hearts not there clothes. Many people are chased away from God with attitudes like yours. Please be careful as they are new in learning of God just as you are.
S
It is inappropriate for ladies to wear seductive clothing ANY TIME of day (other than what she wants to wear in private with her husband), not just in church. I don't understand why our conduct should be any different outside of church or in the building you call church. The body of Christ IS the Church, no matter where you are, and if we are part of the body of Christ, we will dress and act appropriately wherever we are during the day. What does church on sundays have to do with any of this?
P
ok yes jesus did show love to the prostitute first, but i guess the bible says dont cause your brother or sister to stumble, wouldnt us ladies have something to say about a guy if we had a weekness in that area who talked seductivley to us when were vunerable to that told us what we wanted to hear and made us stumble in out faith because of it or came into church showing his six pack or tight tshrt and jeans showing flesh
guys are more visual as opposed to women being more emotional and i think its sometng we need to listen to without feeling condemned if a guy says he has a weekness in that area to dress more modestly..
i dont think this is a case of condemnation or lack of love , if a guy has a genuine strugle it would probably took courage to stand up and say. lets not be too hasty in judging but genuinly give thought to what hes saying ,
guys are more visual as opposed to women being more emotional and i think its sometng we need to listen to without feeling condemned if a guy says he has a weekness in that area to dress more modestly..
i dont think this is a case of condemnation or lack of love , if a guy has a genuine strugle it would probably took courage to stand up and say. lets not be too hasty in judging but genuinly give thought to what hes saying ,
It also says for a man not to be lusting after women. At what point is the blame game started by Adam ever going to end. It wasn't my fault God blame Eve. Yes some of us know about the dress code. Some aren't there yet. Can you think of that for a minute or two please? Some have not been taught about the love of God. Who God is or who they are in Christ yet. And people start condemning them about how they dress. There are women in places setting themselves on fire trying to avoid the condemning of men who force them to wear black robes and peep through tiny eye slits. My actual thought of the post was one may be dealing with his issues of being a part of porn and instead of dealing with his own problems turning it around and blaming his problems on the women.
L
What about those people who are very far from civilazation... for example the tribes on the very far mountains...
Some women don't wear any clothes... most of them they do not have clothes men only cover their-self with leaves...
are they condemned?... i think not... it depends on the culture of the community...
Some women don't wear any clothes... most of them they do not have clothes men only cover their-self with leaves...
are they condemned?... i think not... it depends on the culture of the community...
W
I do agree that one shouldn't deliberately dress "provoking" in public, but the problem is, different cultures and age groups have different views on this:
for instance:
I personally feel like one "shows oneself off" more with a long skirt than with ordinary slim pants... (dunno why, I just do. Not saying one shouldn't wear them, just that they feel less "covering" for some reason, even if they are long).
most guys though probably see pants as more... eh.. yea, you know
so, would it not then be up to me to decide what I feel is appropriate ?
mind though, also: The bible says you should respect the culture of the place you are at, so if you are somewhere where the "rule" says for instance cover your ancles, you should do that out of respect
for instance:
I personally feel like one "shows oneself off" more with a long skirt than with ordinary slim pants... (dunno why, I just do. Not saying one shouldn't wear them, just that they feel less "covering" for some reason, even if they are long).
most guys though probably see pants as more... eh.. yea, you know
so, would it not then be up to me to decide what I feel is appropriate ?
mind though, also: The bible says you should respect the culture of the place you are at, so if you are somewhere where the "rule" says for instance cover your ancles, you should do that out of respect
C
i find that on this topic, there needs to be a two way street.
for the guys, it is hard to focus on the Godliness happening around us, when ladies are falling out of their clothes. its not any fault of our own, God made us to be visual people. we cant change that. its in our genetic makeup. but that is where the power of God should kick in. it is a weakness for many men, and it is in our weakness that His strength is made perfect. when we turn to Christ, we are assured that the former things have passed away and all things have been made new. and anybody in Christ is a new creation. so when temptation hits, we have to rely on God. its hard to refocus your mind on Him, but overcoming temptation is hardly ever easy
for the ladies, im all for the come as you are situation. God does look on your heart, and in doing so, he also sees your motives for all that you do. if you are wearing clothing to be seen of men, He knows. you can tell us its because of the heat, or because you want to wear what you want to wear, or any other reason, but God ultimately knows the cause and will hold you accountable. if you have been spoken to about your clothing, that it is hindering somebody else spiritually, then i feel you are going to have a situation come end of time if you dont change. because you are basically saying that you don't care if that person goes to hell or not. and that my dearest sister is not the Love of Christ that we need to possess. we need to be encouraging and helping each other to all get into the kingdom, for that is what Love is about, wanting the best for all.
with that all said and done, please remember that every place has its own set of traditions and attire. and it would simply be rude and disrespectful to bring your beliefs and condemn others because of theirs. so respect of culture and pace is necessary. and to end off, what you wear has no bearing on your salvation, so dont focus much on these kinds of topics. just get more Jesus in your life, and let Him show you what you should/should not be wearing/doing/saying/acting like/etc... just because I have been told through my own study a weakness in my life, doesnt mean i must now tell everybody else to change. in the fullness of time, God will work through those people out there too, and they will change, but when they are ready. above all, Love God, and let Him do His work in you (and in others), in His time.
for the guys, it is hard to focus on the Godliness happening around us, when ladies are falling out of their clothes. its not any fault of our own, God made us to be visual people. we cant change that. its in our genetic makeup. but that is where the power of God should kick in. it is a weakness for many men, and it is in our weakness that His strength is made perfect. when we turn to Christ, we are assured that the former things have passed away and all things have been made new. and anybody in Christ is a new creation. so when temptation hits, we have to rely on God. its hard to refocus your mind on Him, but overcoming temptation is hardly ever easy
for the ladies, im all for the come as you are situation. God does look on your heart, and in doing so, he also sees your motives for all that you do. if you are wearing clothing to be seen of men, He knows. you can tell us its because of the heat, or because you want to wear what you want to wear, or any other reason, but God ultimately knows the cause and will hold you accountable. if you have been spoken to about your clothing, that it is hindering somebody else spiritually, then i feel you are going to have a situation come end of time if you dont change. because you are basically saying that you don't care if that person goes to hell or not. and that my dearest sister is not the Love of Christ that we need to possess. we need to be encouraging and helping each other to all get into the kingdom, for that is what Love is about, wanting the best for all.
with that all said and done, please remember that every place has its own set of traditions and attire. and it would simply be rude and disrespectful to bring your beliefs and condemn others because of theirs. so respect of culture and pace is necessary. and to end off, what you wear has no bearing on your salvation, so dont focus much on these kinds of topics. just get more Jesus in your life, and let Him show you what you should/should not be wearing/doing/saying/acting like/etc... just because I have been told through my own study a weakness in my life, doesnt mean i must now tell everybody else to change. in the fullness of time, God will work through those people out there too, and they will change, but when they are ready. above all, Love God, and let Him do His work in you (and in others), in His time.
T
Maybe one of the deaconness could privately pull the young ladies aside, in love and gentleness explain how they can tone down their attire. Maybe the young ladies in question cannot afford other clothing, then that would be an opportunity for the church to step in and provide items they need. An opportunity to serve.
First off, let's jump off Dude's back and stop trying to make him out to be the bad guy here. He said it was a temptation for him when ladies in his church wear innapropriate clothing. I agree, when what you are wearing to church distracts others from focusing on God that is wrong. I am all for wearing what is most comfortable for you, but when you distract others at church, that is where I draw the line. I think this is a good discussion and people need to lay off Dude.
E
The house of God is not a building, it is our hearts. It is also where anyone gathers (where two or three people are gathered)
The problem here is not what they should or should not where to church, it is what they should or should not wear anywhere. (except maybe the beach or a pool)
These lady's can cause a brother to fall outside the church as well as the inside. This is what they need to learn, what is appropriate attire for the world to see, and what should only be seen by their husband.
If A person knows what is proper or not proper outside, they would do it all the time, not just for church. I fear we get legalistic and push people away when we just say it is not proper in church, Not to mention, we are saying by proxie it is ok outside the church, which it is not.
The problem here is not what they should or should not where to church, it is what they should or should not wear anywhere. (except maybe the beach or a pool)
These lady's can cause a brother to fall outside the church as well as the inside. This is what they need to learn, what is appropriate attire for the world to see, and what should only be seen by their husband.
If A person knows what is proper or not proper outside, they would do it all the time, not just for church. I fear we get legalistic and push people away when we just say it is not proper in church, Not to mention, we are saying by proxie it is ok outside the church, which it is not.
C
im afraid that you cannot be selective in this regard. either its you cant wear it anywhere or you can. beach or pool makes no difference. are there times and places where you can not be a Christian? if it is not ok for a woman to show off her body in a short dress, what possibly makes it ok for her to show it off in a bathing suit (which shows off pretty much everything that only a husband should be seeing i think)
you cant be selective and draw the line where you want to. either its right or its wrong. there are no grey areas, or at least there shouldn't be dear...
A
offer her a coat and some appropiate clothes, she might not have any. get one of the older ladies talk to her about it.
YouTube - Casting Crowns - Does Anybody Hear Her
most prostitutes or "loose women" were raped when they were very young: between the age of 6-13. it just something to think about. be compassionate and treat them as you would as a sister in Christ, with love and respect.
YouTube - Casting Crowns - Does Anybody Hear Her
most prostitutes or "loose women" were raped when they were very young: between the age of 6-13. it just something to think about. be compassionate and treat them as you would as a sister in Christ, with love and respect.