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miknik5

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I would offer. Christ meaning "anointed" or one with power to teach (anointing) is the unseen Good Master. .He teaches us all things by the temporal things he has made, in order to reveal to us he is not an man as us and neither is served by corrupted hands.

As many as the father has given to the Son. . . they alone can come.Not one more or one less.
This has nothing to do with the question asked. CHRIST died for the sins of the world, this is true...however, this is half the TRUTH and those still outside THE DOOR, have not yet entered in...

I know what CHRIST does for those who are washed...but more importantly...NOT ALL ARE WASHED...,many are outside THE DOOR...
and we can point to THE DOOR...but HE is the ONE who feeds the right food.

Peter was told to feed HIS LAMBS...but Peter was NOT the DOOR...
We are told to be HIS WITNESSES and that the GOSPEL will be preached to all nations...then will the end come...

Everyone will hear THE GOOD NEWS...but not all will believe...and we are here, talking about prophecy teachers?


There are NO more prophecy teachers...we were called to be witnesses...testifying of JESUS CHRIST..
 

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Does everyone have THIS GARMENT? Can everyone come to THE WEDDING? If not, they need a garment, a covering to come up into the PRESENCE of GOD.

What do they need to do?
only the elect wear it.
 

miknik5

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Please expound Matthew 22
 

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Please expound Matthew 22

A STORY ABOUT A WEDDING FEAST
(22:1–14; Luke 14:15–24)

22 Jesus again used ·stories [parables] to teach them. He said, 2 “The kingdom of heaven is like a king who prepared a wedding ·feast [banquet] for his son. 3 When the ·feast [banquet] was ready, the king sent his servants to ·tell [inform; call] the people who had been invited, but they refused to come.
4 “Then the king sent other servants, saying, ‘Tell those who have been invited that my ·feast [banquet] is ready. I have killed my best ·bulls [or oxen] and [fattened] calves for the dinner, and everything is ready. Come to the wedding ·feast [banquet].’
5 “But the people ·refused to listen [paid no attention] to the servants and ·left to do other things [went their own way]. One went to ·work in his field [his field/farm], and another went to his business. 6 ·Some of the other people [or The rest] grabbed the servants, ·beat [mistreated; insulted] them, and killed them. 7 The king was furious and sent his army to ·kill [destroy] the murderers and burn their city [Cprobably an allusion to the destruction of Jerusalam in AD 70].
8 “After that, the king said to his servants, ‘The wedding ·feast [banquet] is ready. I invited those people, but they ·were not worthy [do not deserve] to come. 9 So go to the ·street corners [crossroads; or main roads] and invite everyone you find to come to my ·feast [banquet].’ 10 So the servants went into the streets and gathered all the people they could find, both good and ·bad [evil]. And the wedding hall was filled with guests.
11 “[But] When the king came in to see the guests, he saw a man who was not dressed ·for a wedding [in wedding clothes]. 12 The king said, ‘Friend, how were you allowed to come in here? You are not dressed for a wedding.’ But the man ·said nothing [was speechless/silent]. 13 So the king told some servants, ‘Tie this man’s hands and feet. Throw him out into the ·darkness [darkness outside; or outermost darkness], where ·people will cry and grind their teeth with pain [there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth; symbols of agony and torment].’
14 “·Yes [LFor], many are ·invited [called], but only a few are chosen.”


Longman III, T., Strauss, M. L., & Taylor, D. (2009). The Expanded Bible: New Testament (Mt 22:1–14). Nashville; Dallas; Mexico City; Rio de Janeiro; Beijing: Thomas Nelson.
 

miknik5

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Garee,

Do you know who it is that was given to THE SON?

No...you don´t...which is why we were called to preach THE GOSPEL and let GOD do HIS WORK...
That is all we were called to do...

We preach, HE brings the increase...The parable of the workers in the field...what were they doing?
 

miknik5

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A STORY ABOUT A WEDDING FEAST
(22:1–14; Luke 14:15–24)

22 Jesus again used ·stories [parables] to teach them. He said, 2 “The kingdom of heaven is like a king who prepared a wedding ·feast [banquet] for his son. 3 When the ·feast [banquet] was ready, the king sent his servants to ·tell [inform; call] the people who had been invited, but they refused to come.
4 “Then the king sent other servants, saying, ‘Tell those who have been invited that my ·feast [banquet] is ready. I have killed my best ·bulls [or oxen] and [fattened] calves for the dinner, and everything is ready. Come to the wedding ·feast [banquet].’
5 “But the people ·refused to listen [paid no attention] to the servants and ·left to do other things [went their own way]. One went to ·work in his field [his field/farm], and another went to his business. 6 ·Some of the other people [or The rest] grabbed the servants, ·beat [mistreated; insulted] them, and killed them. 7 The king was furious and sent his army to ·kill [destroy] the murderers and burn their city [Cprobably an allusion to the destruction of Jerusalam in AD 70].
8 “After that, the king said to his servants, ‘The wedding ·feast [banquet] is ready. I invited those people, but they ·were not worthy [do not deserve] to come. 9 So go to the ·street corners [crossroads; or main roads] and invite everyone you find to come to my ·feast [banquet].’ 10 So the servants went into the streets and gathered all the people they could find, both good and ·bad [evil]. And the wedding hall was filled with guests.
11 “[But] When the king came in to see the guests, he saw a man who was not dressed ·for a wedding [in wedding clothes]. 12 The king said, ‘Friend, how were you allowed to come in here? You are not dressed for a wedding.’ But the man ·said nothing [was speechless/silent]. 13 So the king told some servants, ‘Tie this man’s hands and feet. Throw him out into the ·darkness [darkness outside; or outermost darkness], where ·people will cry and grind their teeth with pain [there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth; symbols of agony and torment].’
14 “·Yes [LFor], many are ·invited [called], but only a few are chosen.”


Longman III, T., Strauss, M. L., & Taylor, D. (2009). The Expanded Bible: New Testament (Mt 22:1–14). Nashville; Dallas; Mexico City; Rio de Janeiro; Beijing: Thomas Nelson.
And? You did not expound it...you copied and pasted. That is all
 

miknik5

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I think I have to give up.
We are going around in circles.

All before the throne, have WHITE GARMENTS...
and that is HIS COVERING...HIS ROYAL ROBES OF RIGHTEOUSNESS...

Not all have this GARMENT
 

garee

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Garee,

Do you know who it is that was given to THE SON?

No...you don´t...which is why we were called to preach THE GOSPEL and let GOD do HIS WORK...
That is all we were called to do...

We preach, HE brings the increase...The parable of the workers in the field...what were they doing?

I am in agreement.

What the workers were doing is working out the agreement of faith that worked in them. A penny to equal a eternal unseen amount . They murmured because others worked less were paid the same . Everyone get the same pennies worth eternal life. Don't be a murmurer. How could that reflect the glory of our unseen God?

Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure. Do all things without murmurings and disputing Philippians 2: 12-14

Matthew 20:12-14 King James Version (KJV) Saying, These last have wrought but one hour, and thou hast made them equal unto us, which have borne the burden and heat of the day. But he answered one of them, and said, Friend, I do thee no wrong: didst not thou agree with me for a penny? Take that thine is, and go thy way: I will give unto this last, even as unto thee.
 

miknik5

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I am in agreement.

What the workers were doing is working out the agreement of faith that worked in them. A penny to equal a eternal unseen amount . They murmured because others worked less were paid the same . Everyone get the same pennies worth eternal life. Don't be a murmurer. How could that reflect the glory of our unseen God?

Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure. Do all things without murmurings and disputing Philippians 2: 12-14

Matthew 20:12-14 King James Version (KJV) Saying, These last have wrought but one hour, and thou hast made them equal unto us, which have borne the burden and heat of the day. But he answered one of them, and said, Friend, I do thee no wrong: didst not thou agree with me for a penny? Take that thine is, and go thy way: I will give unto this last, even as unto thee.
This work of GOD has nothing to do with our comparing our work to another..it´s about the LANDLORD telling HIS fieldhands to go out and cast the seed in HIS FIELD...

Itś HIS FIELD and HE will bring the increase...but HE uses HIS instruments to cast the seed and we are to let the seed fall where it will...not to decide who is wheat, and not to withhold the seed from anyone.
 

miknik5

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Furthermore, notice the ones who came in at the last hour, are first.
And they should be...
It is those who worked in the heat of the early hours who are weathered and worn, who will be last..while babes, those who come in at the last hour, are fresh and pure from HIS PRESENCE....having not yet experienced trials and the heat of the day(s) which test our faith, and distract us, so that our eyes are NOT always on HIM and HIS WORK
 

garee

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This work of GOD has nothing to do with our comparing our work to another..it´s about the LANDLORD telling HIS fieldhands to go out and cast the seed in HIS FIELD...

Itś HIS FIELD and HE will bring the increase...but HE uses HIS instruments to cast the seed and we are to let the seed fall where it will...not to decide who is wheat, and not to withhold the seed from anyone.
Hi thanks for the reply

No one is trying to decide who is wheat. Only God can see into the hearts of all men . It is the wage of agreement. Some thought they should have more. I would think he wills where seed will fall. He is not served by corrupted human hands . as if he needed something from the clay he forms Christ in .
 

garee

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Furthermore, notice the ones who came in at the last hour, are first.
And they should be...
It is those who worked in the heat of the early hours who are weathered and worn, who will be last..while babes, those who come in at the last hour, are fresh and pure from HIS PRESENCE....having not yet experienced trials and the heat of the day(s) which test our faith, and distract us, so that our eyes are NOT always on HIM and HIS WORK
Hi thanks for the reply

I don't think it had to do with young, old, worn out , weak, strong but again the the agreement by which two walk together. the letter of the law.

For instance. . . You sow my seeds here, to another you my seed over there .Some fell on the good ground the word of God the foundation of Christian faith other fell is less successful places.
 

miknik5

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Hi thanks for the reply

No one is trying to decide who is wheat. Only God can see into the hearts of all men . It is the wage of agreement. Some thought they should have more. I would think he wills where seed will fall. He is not served by corrupted human hands . as if he needed something from the clay he forms Christ in .
Iḿ not understanding your last sentence...
 

miknik5

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Hi thanks for the reply

I don't think it had to do with young, old, worn out , weak, strong but again the the agreement by which two walk together. the letter of the law.

For instance. . . You sow my seeds here, to another you my seed over there .Some fell on the good ground the word of God the foundation of Christian faith other fell is less successful places.
By which two walk together...Do you know that THE WITNESS in us testifies with our spirit that GODŚ WORD is TRUTH...and that there is ONLY ONE FOUNDATION...and that FOUNDATION is CHRIST>..

Remember, some were adding more to the FOUNDATION than was necessary...

Can´t we then, just preach the GOSPEL and step aside?
Isn´t it enough to preach CHRIST and HIM CRUCIFIED...that this is THE FOUNDATION of faith that all must stand on THIS IS THE ROCK and CAPSTONE of FAITH and the HIDDEN WISDOM of GOD made known to all men...

Even if it is a stumbling stone for some...
 

massorite

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There will never be a unanimous consensus of Biblical doctrine. But I can tell you this for sure:
The literal interpretation of Scripture is the only consistent view.
(i happen to believe, but ) I'm not saying its the right view, but i am say that it is the only consistent view.

An allegorical view opens up the door to interpreting the text however you want. But God himself is consistent. I just read this morning in Psalm 89:34
"My covenant I will not violate,
Nor will I alter the utterance of My lips
".
Since God and His Word is consistent, so should be our interpretation.

Scripture was given literally: "But know this first of all, that Scripture is not a matter of one’s own interpretation" 1 Pet 1:20

“For My thoughts are not your thoughts,
Nor are your ways My ways,” declares the LORD.
“For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
So are My ways higher than your ways
And My thoughts than your thoughts.
“For as the rain and the snow come down from heaven,
And do not return there without watering the earth
And making it bear and sprout,
And furnishing seed to the sower and bread to the eater;
So will My word be which goes forth from My mouth;
It will not return to Me empty,
Without accomplishing what I desire,

And without succeeding in the matter for which I sent it.
-Isaiah 55:8-11

God knew that we couldn't possibly comprehend His thoughts, so He gave us His Words. That's why Bible translations should be consistent in this regard, as well as doctrine. Word-for-word translations give us exactly what the authors wrote, while thought-for-thought translations give us what today's translators think the authors meant.
I very much agree with you Diakono. God knew ahead of time that we would corrupt His word and so He made sure that with effort and good research tools we could get the jest of what He was trying to convey to us from the Word and the rest would be revelation from the Holy Spirit. Though the scripture in some bible versions are very much corrupted God made sure that there were some versions that stuck much closer to the original texts. There are a lot of folks like EleventhHour who spend a lot of time doubt casting on anything related to the word of God and if it were up to her nobody would be able to grab a hold of the word as it was written and live by the Word of God. She doesn't realize it but folks like her seriously confuse folks with her doubt casting and especially baby believers. God is in control here and He would never allow His word to be so confusing that no one would be able to understand it if we all listened to folks like her.
The average grade level for being able to comprehend the NKJV in English is 7th grade and the age of 12+. The average grade level for understanding the KJV in English is 12 grade an d the age of 17+.
Most of the Word of God can be taken literally but some can not. However as we grow in our walk with Christ we learn which scripture should be taken literally and which scripture should not be taken literally and the scripture that should not be taken literally we learn should be researched for the purpose of understanding and rightly dividing the Word of God.
2Ti 2:14 Of these things put them in remembrance, charging them before the Lord that they strive not about words to no profit, but to the subverting of the hearers.

2Ti 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
We are commanded to research the word of God so that we can understand what God is trying to tell us. But the whole purpose of doubt casting against the Word of God is to subvert those who are trying to understand the Word of God. God has made sure that those who are both educated and uneducated in the Word can understand the Word of God.
This is where the confusion come in "while thought-for-thought translations give us what today's translators think the authors meant"

The word "strive" in 2 Ti 2:14 is talking about to "Strive diligently to present thyself approved to God, a workman that has not to be ashamed, cutting in a straight line the word of truth.
This is what we are commanded to do and God would never have made it so complicated that we would never be able grab a hold of the Word of God and know what God is telling us. But doubt casters fight against God's efforts to help us understand His Word, which is why the last part of verse 14 says "but to the subverting of the hearers.". In other words, Doubt Casting about any part of the Word of God no matter how small is undermining or attempting to undermine the Holy Spirits efforts to help us know God.
That is the work of Satan and antichristism.
 

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I very much agree with you Diakono. God knew ahead of time that we would corrupt His word and so He made sure that with effort and good research tools we could get the jest of what He was trying to convey to us from the Word and the rest would be revelation from the Holy Spirit. Though the scripture in some bible versions are very much corrupted God made sure that there were some versions that stuck much closer to the original texts. There are a lot of folks like EleventhHour who spend a lot of time doubt casting on anything related to the word of God and if it were up to her nobody would be able to grab a hold of the word as it was written and live by the Word of God. She doesn't realize it but folks like her seriously confuse folks with her doubt casting and especially baby believers. God is in control here and He would never allow His word to be so confusing that no one would be able to understand it if we all listened to folks like her.
The average grade level for being able to comprehend the NKJV in English is 7th grade and the age of 12+. The average grade level for understanding the KJV in English is 12 grade an d the age of 17+.
Most of the Word of God can be taken literally but some can not. However as we grow in our walk with Christ we learn which scripture should be taken literally and which scripture should not be taken literally and the scripture that should not be taken literally we learn should be researched for the purpose of understanding and rightly dividing the Word of God.
2Ti 2:14 Of these things put them in remembrance, charging them before the Lord that they strive not about words to no profit, but to the subverting of the hearers.

2Ti 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
We are commanded to research the word of God so that we can understand what God is trying to tell us. But the whole purpose of doubt casting against the Word of God is to subvert those who are trying to understand the Word of God. God has made sure that those who are both educated and uneducated in the Word can understand the Word of God.
This is where the confusion come in "while thought-for-thought translations give us what today's translators think the authors meant"

The word "strive" in 2 Ti 2:14 is talking about to "Strive diligently to present thyself approved to God, a workman that has not to be ashamed, cutting in a straight line the word of truth.
This is what we are commanded to do and God would never have made it so complicated that we would never be able grab a hold of the Word of God and know what God is telling us. But doubt casters fight against God's efforts to help us understand His Word, which is why the last part of verse 14 says "but to the subverting of the hearers.". In other words, Doubt Casting about any part of the Word of God no matter how small is undermining or attempting to undermine the Holy Spirits efforts to help us know God.
That is the work of Satan and antichristism.
Well said, Brother. "Doubt Casting about any part of the Word of God no matter how small is undermining or attempting to undermine the Holy Spirits efforts to help us know God".......That is because the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of....Truth. Just as electricity needs a conductor to flow, The Spirit of God flows through Truth, and He must find some measure of truth in the mind before He can illuminate the heart. Selah
 

massorite

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Well said, Brother. "Doubt Casting about any part of the Word of God no matter how small is undermining or attempting to undermine the Holy Spirits efforts to help us know God".......That is because the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of....Truth. Just as electricity needs a conductor to flow, The Spirit of God flows through Truth, and He must find some measure of truth in the mind before He can illuminate the heart. Selah
LOL WOW that is a great analogy.
 

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You are looking to learn more about the Bible prophecies, yet you are not interested in reading the Bible and praying.

Why?

You are jumping to a conclusion that is false. My asking for Christian authors regarding Bible prophecy and you jump to "no interested in reading the Bible and praying."