Prophets today

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If God called you to be a prophet today in a vision,dream, audible voice, or other method, what would you do?
 
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Quite likely I'd keel over from a heart attack in shock...

:)

(sorry, I'll leave the serious answers to serious people)
 
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AnandaHya

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even in the OT the prophets didn't go around declaring

I AM A PROPHET!

they just gave God's message to the intended person and left the rest in God's hands.
 
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In addition I would test the vision and see if the spirit that speaks contradicts God's written word and then I would pray and allow the Holy Spirit to testify to the truth or falseness of the vision. then I would have two or three trusted Christian brothers or sisters to hear the vision and pray and see if it really from God. then I would pray some more before acting upon the vision.

but that is more with prophecies then if God calls you to be a prophet

for in an extend I believe GOD calls ALL His children to be ministers of His love and speakers of His eternal promise of salvation thus speaking as oracles of God. Yet each individual's cal land life-long good work is assigned as God wills not as man wishes for it to be given unto them. Yet He is faithful to provide the skills and the talents and the people and the resourced needed for each ministry He ordains and lifts up.


2 Corinthians 6

Marks of the Ministry

1 We then, as workers together with Him also plead with you not to receive the grace of God in vain. 2 For He says:

“ In an acceptable time I have heard you,
And in the day of salvation I have helped you.”[a]
Behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation.
3 We give no offense in anything, that our ministry may not be blamed. 4 But in all things we commend ourselves as ministers of God: in much patience, in tribulations, in needs, in distresses, 5 in stripes, in imprisonments, in tumults, in labors, in sleeplessness, in fastings; 6 by purity, by knowledge, by longsuffering, by kindness, by the Holy Spirit, by sincere love, 7 by the word of truth, by the power of God, by the armor of righteousness on the right hand and on the left, 8 by honor and dishonor, by evil report and good report; as deceivers, and yet true; 9 as unknown, and yet well known; as dying, and behold we live; as chastened, and yet not killed; 10 as sorrowful, yet always rejoicing; as poor, yet making many rich; as having nothing, and yet possessing all things.
 
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even in the OT the prophets didn't go around declaring

I AM A PROPHET!

they just gave God's message to the intended person and left the rest in God's hands.

Amen! So many "prophets" in today's world try and tell you that every word that pours from their mouth must be trusted and obeyed, even if it disagrees with the Bible just because they claim to be a prophet.
 

zone

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If God called you to be a prophet today in a vision,dream, audible voice, or other method, what would you do?
God?
what makes you think God will do that?
how will you know its Christ at all?

there are no more prophets.
get over it jonathan.
 
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CanadaNZ

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God?
what makes you think God will do that?
how will you know its Christ at all?

there are no more prophets.
get over it jonathan.
Zone that is not entirely true. There is just a misunderstanding of what a prophet is.

"20 But now indeed there are many members, yet one body. 21 And the eye cannot say to the hand, “I have no need of you”; nor again the head to the feet, “I have no need of you.” 22 No, much rather, those members of the body which seem to be weaker are necessary. 23 And those members of the body which we think to be less honorable, on these we bestow greater honor; and our unpresentable parts have greater modesty, 24 but our presentable parts have no need. But God composed the body, having given greater honor to that part which lacks it, 25 that there should be no schism in the body, but that the members should have the same care for one another. 26 And if one member suffers, all the members suffer with it; or if one member is honored, all the members rejoice with it.
27 Now you are the body of Christ, and members individually. 28 And God has appointed these in the church: first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, administrations, varieties of tongues. 29 Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Are all workers of miracles? 30 Do all have gifts of healings? Do all speak with tongues? Do all interpret? 31 But earnestly desire the best gifts. And yet I show you a more excellent way."

So the question is not whether there are prophets but what does it mean to be prophetic? There are those that claim to be prophetic and "prophesy" about events to take place on specific dates, but I ask you, if you look at the prophets in the bible how many said "on this day this and this are going to happen"? Then there are those who claim to be prophets and say that every word they say is true even if it contradicts the Bible, look again at the prophets and you will find a consistency of message unprecidented in all of history. People misunderstand, prophets are people who recieve a message from God for a person or a group of people, they never attempted to take the spotlight, they only did as God commanded and then stepped back. Many of the prophets could have lived in the court of the King and been very wealthy but they didn't they lived on the fringe never wanting the spotlight.
 

zone

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Zone that is not entirely true. There is just a misunderstanding of what a prophet is.

"20 But now indeed there are many members, yet one body. 21 And the eye cannot say to the hand, “I have no need of you”; nor again the head to the feet, “I have no need of you.” 22 No, much rather, those members of the body which seem to be weaker are necessary. 23 And those members of the body which we think to be less honorable, on these we bestow greater honor; and our unpresentable parts have greater modesty, 24 but our presentable parts have no need. But God composed the body, having given greater honor to that part which lacks it, 25 that there should be no schism in the body, but that the members should have the same care for one another. 26 And if one member suffers, all the members suffer with it; or if one member is honored, all the members rejoice with it.
27 Now you are the body of Christ, and members individually. 28 And God has appointed these in the church: first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, administrations, varieties of tongues. 29 Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Are all workers of miracles? 30 Do all have gifts of healings? Do all speak with tongues? Do all interpret? 31 But earnestly desire the best gifts. And yet I show you a more excellent way."

So the question is not whether there are prophets but what does it mean to be prophetic? There are those that claim to be prophetic and "prophesy" about events to take place on specific dates, but I ask you, if you look at the prophets in the bible how many said "on this day this and this are going to happen"? Then there are those who claim to be prophets and say that every word they say is true even if it contradicts the Bible, look again at the prophets and you will find a consistency of message unprecidented in all of history. People misunderstand, prophets are people who recieve a message from God for a person or a group of people, they never attempted to take the spotlight, they only did as God commanded and then stepped back. Many of the prophets could have lived in the court of the King and been very wealthy but they didn't they lived on the fringe never wanting the spotlight.
NO MORE PROPHETS.
we have the indwelling Spirit of Truth and the Holy Writ.
we understand what the prophets uttered and what was transcribed.

NO PROPHETS.
no need.

closed canon. GOD HAS SPOKEN.
 
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CanadaNZ

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NO MORE PROPHETS.
we have the indwelling Spirit of Truth and the Holy Writ.
we understand what the prophets uttered and what was transcribed.

NO PROPHETS.
no need.

closed canon. GOD HAS SPOKEN.
So you disagree with what God has spoken through Paul? He says "And God has appointed these in the church: first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, administrations, varieties of tongues." He appointed these in the CHURCH, the definition of the church as given in the previous verses is the body of Christ, which includes all true christians. So to say there are no prophets is to disagree with what God has said. As I said people misunderstand the prophetic gift, I have known people who have spoken quietly to someone they did not know with truth about that persons life they could not have known apart from God, and with a message from God that has convicted that person and in the end transformed them. The gift does exist but it is not as some people claim.
 

zone

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So you disagree with what God has spoken through Paul? He says "And God has appointed these in the church: first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, administrations, varieties of tongues." He appointed these in the CHURCH, the definition of the church as given in the previous verses is the body of Christ, which includes all true christians.

So to say there are no prophets is to disagree with what God has said.

As I said people misunderstand the prophetic gift,

I have known people who have spoken quietly to someone they did not know with truth about that persons life they could not have known apart from God, and with a message from God that has convicted that person and in the end transformed them.

The gift does exist but it is not as some people claim.
silly.

misreading and false.

human reasoning and a silly threat, which is false. its you who misunderstand/ disagree with his Plan.

yes indeed - modern prophets and charismatics (continuationists)

not hard to do, psychics do it, occultists do it, psychologists do it. i have done it.
not to mention deceiving spirits who are pushing the modern extra-biblical revelation agenda. WHY DO YOU AUTOMATICALLY ASSUME IT IS GOD?

please give me the details...no names. what was "the prophecy"? was the person the "prophet" spoke to a born-again believer?

nah. quit changing what a prophet was. its dishonoring to the true prophets and nearing blasphemy.
 
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Let's make it plain.

If the revelation of Christ IS the Spirit of prophesy, then to have Christ is to have THE SPIRIT OF PROPHESY.
 

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God always gives specific instructions. He's not just going to tell someone, "go out and prophesize".
 
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silly.

misreading and false.

human reasoning and a silly threat, which is false. its you who misunderstand/ disagree with his Plan.

yes indeed - modern prophets and charismatics (continuationists)

not hard to do, psychics do it, occultists do it, psychologists do it. i have done it.
not to mention deceiving spirits who are pushing the modern extra-biblical revelation agenda. WHY DO YOU AUTOMATICALLY ASSUME IT IS GOD?

please give me the details...no names. what was "the prophecy"? was the person the "prophet" spoke to a born-again believer?

nah. quit changing what a prophet was. its dishonoring to the true prophets and nearing blasphemy.
Glad you have such compelling biblical reasoning, you have yet to give me anything biblical to support your claims. Some people today claim to be prophets and that what they say is on the same level as scripture, in that I agree with you the Canon is closed, the scriptures are not to be added to. But there are those who have very biblical messages and unlike psychics, occultists and psychologists these statements into and/or about someones life are way more specific than the mumbo jumbo they spew. These messages are always consistent with biblical teaching something which satan is never. If you disagree then take that passage from paul and explain to me what you think it is saying because it seems pretty self explanatory.
 
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there are no more prophets.
In another thread you said there were no more apostle, now you say there are no more prophets? What about pastors, evangelist, and teachers, do you believe they are still functioning? Is there any part of the Bible you do believe?
 
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In another thread you said there were no more apostle, now you say there are no more prophets? What about pastors, evangelist, and teachers, do you believe they are still functioning? Is there any part of the Bible you do believe?
Zone is a cessationist. She believes all the gift ministries and manifestations stopped once we had the completed bible.

I believe she is wrong.
 
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Zone is a cessationist. She believes all the gift ministries and manifestations stopped once we had the completed bible.

I believe she is wrong.
Why would someone believe such a thing?
 
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People that do not BELIEVE they can be led by the Spirit, CAN'T be led by the Spirit, nor HEAR from the Spirit. For them to SAY that they are led by the Holy Spirit of God, negates all cessationistic beliefs. You can't have it both ways.
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