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ThyKingdomComeSoon

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What do you think.

Do you think this new covenant was for the Jews first then the gentile.

Or just the Jews

Or do you think it's a new covenant to come for the Jews only or for everyone including Christians.

Why do you repeatedly not state what you believe after posting scripture, it would make it so much more easier to talk with you.

This is what believe

Luke 22:20
Also he did the same with the cup after the evening meal saying this cup means the new covenant by virtue of my blood which is to be poured out in your behalf
oh Hi, I am sorry I overlooked your post,
I mean the new covenant is for everyone who beleive in the Word, yes everyone. I did not state what i believed because I was not certain, it is good to see sometimew what other think or know, I am not perfect and have a lot to learn as scriptures are linked in many ways and one have to be very knowledgeable ( which I am not ) to see the different links between the different books of the bible, they complement one another perfectly.

Peace.
 

Grace911

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""Paul figured out the Greatest Mystery and that is the why Yeshua/Jesus came""

can you elaborate on this one, I would like to know more about this mystery, it was clear to me before I read Paul what Jesus the son of GOD came to do.

here is a summary of jer 31;

""God will again at the end of the age take Israel into new covenant relation with Himself, from which they have for hundreds of years been cut off because of rebellion against His Word. At that time, all shall come to the knowledge of God, and the earth shall be filled with songs of joy.""

this is why I think that the new covenant will be in effect at jesus second coming or soon after all of the tribes are back in Israel.

Peace.
Deuteronomy 24:1“When a man takes a wife and marries her, and it happens that she finds no favor in his eyes because he has found some uncleanness in her, and he writes her a certificate of divorce, puts it in her hand, and sends her out of his house, 2when she has departed from his house, and goes and becomes another man’s wife, 3if the latter husband detests her and writes her a certificate of divorce, puts it in her hand, and sends her out of his house, or if the latter husband dies who took her as his wife, 4 Then her former husband who divorced her must not take her back to be his wife after she has been defiled; for that is an abomination before the Lord, and you shall not bring sin on the land which the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance.

Jeremiah 31:31Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: 32Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD: 33But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

Romans 7:1–4 Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth? 2 For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband. 3 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man. 4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.

God loved his wife so much that He desired to remarry her, but His own law did not permit Him to. (See Deuteronomy 24:1-4) His laws are forever and to add or diminish is a SIN. God is perfect and His Words are perfect, and that is why you cannot add or diminish.

God knew the Way for His wife to remarry (re-covenant) without sinning.

Jeremiah 3:1
They say, ‘If a man divorces his wife,
And she goes from him
And becomes another man’s,
May he return to her again?’
Would not that land be greatly polluted?
But you have played the harlot with many lovers;
“YET RETURN TO ME” says the Lord.

YHWH/LORD is Yeshua - Immanuel -God with us - in the flesh. Yeshua means Yah’s salvation (Strong’s H3444). He had to come as a man and He willingly died and then RESSURECTED!! Most beautiful love story. God loves me and you so much that He came as a man so He could die and resurect from the dead so that we can now remarry Him and be His Bride when He returns - Second Coming.

I will add here that when I was not aware of the Word, and just got fed little bites of lies for a long long time, it was refreshing to have my understanding opened and to see all Babylonian pagan worship intermingled with New Testament was absolutely Satanic. This mixing of pagan with Jesus is why we see in Revelation this:

Revelation 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

What are they suppose to come out of? The mixing of pagan mystery religions with Jesus.

It takes time to learn what these pagan practices are and how they have been handed down, even from the days of the Acts.
 
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Haven't seen you for a while but I will be the first to admit I am not perfect there are times when I slip and fall and I take counsil from those who give correction in wisdom and in clear spirit not from those who have hate in them or who go about doing so in malice.

And with all your words here you are fixated on me and I have said before that I have been in training so yes I am at fault sometimes but The mission still remains and that is why even if I am in the wwrong his grace is sufficent and he points it out to me when I go and be with him in silence.
Even so if it makes you feel better forget I ever said I was a prophet since you cannot seem to let that go and just listen to the words actually being said take me out of your mind and just read the message.
Interesting response. I don't see anyone else saying God told me to tell you or I just had to write the following because I have been ordered to do so. It is your deception I warn about.

No one is above deception EXPECIALLY if they think there is some place outside of the Bible wherein God gives special revelation to a person and yet you have been going on about that for ..... an awful long time. That, would be the hallmark of a cult.

I am fixated on truth; not nonsense.
 

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I know the power words have the scriptures themselves say there is life and death in the tongue many people who read things on forums like this have seen what words can do and at first the forum was a great place to be with people but online became arguments everywhere you went

If online forums alone can do this much damage with mere written words I think the opposite should be true. So to me it is a field in which our words can either spread the kingdom of God or not but we have to remeber the parable of the talents and the parable of the referense of the kingdom of heaven being likened to planting seeds.

Not to mention everything I mentioned he spoke to me and instead of all those so called other speakers for him be that prophets or teachers or visionaries it activates you if it is the real thing you don't just sit around being all talk.

But it requires utter surrender to him the truth that goes past just the written word he calls you to the real thing himself. That is when you make him not just your savior but your Lord and that title demands respect you serve him no if and or butt.

So in understanding how words have power and sumbitting yourself completely and I mean real surrender this is when the kingdom begins to make sense and your comission as he has commanded us to do is written on your heart.

So the forum is a field words have power the mission we were given and called to do the two parables mentioned these things are what it is for me.
Well there ya go. You see this forum as your mission field; and what you'd like me to do is step aside and let you preach anything you think God has told you to preach. But I don't believe God has called you; personally, it seems to me, you're self-appointed. So the best I can promise is to try and be civil, but I won't go along with your agenda.
 

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Really? The written word is the safely net that catches us if we go too far and enter a realm that is not truth.


Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world. And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth. John 17: 17-26

I will praise thee with my whole heart: before the gods will I sing praise unto thee. [2] I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name. Psalm 138

So do you come then to snatch away what is really true and attempt to lead others into a make-believe world?

This utter surrender you speak of sounds more like allowing whatever thoughts you entertain to be attributed to the Holy Spirit. If what a person says does not line up with scripture, but they insist they are inspired by a spirit, then know...absolutely KNOW...that what they say is NOT truth.

Blain I have no doubt you experience what you say you do, but there is nothing that supplants the written word. Nothing. You are deceived if you believe that. It sounds more like Eastern religions that promise all kinds of things including a little world all in your own mind.
Jesus Christ himself said he is the way the truth and the light and you and I both know I never said throw out the written word you are just attacking and I am sure it is for a good reason but don't claim to be being it for any other reason than the hurt your dealing with.

I am not going to repeat myself again if you cannot back off then I will not respond to anything you say so you can go on every post you want but you won't get a response
I am not doing well health wise Currently I am sick with something like the cold and am not in the mood to deal with stuff like this.
Just remember the parables of the seed planting and talents that all I can say for now.
 

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oh Hi, I am sorry I overlooked your post,
I mean the new covenant is for everyone who beleive in the Word, yes everyone. I did not state what i believed because I was not certain, it is good to see sometimew what other think or know, I am not perfect and have a lot to learn as scriptures are linked in many ways and one have to be very knowledgeable ( which I am not ) to see the different links between the different books of the bible, they complement one another perfectly.

Peace.
I was talking about the new covenant in Jeremiah of writing the laws on the house of Isreal hearts

The house of Isreal where God's covenant people

The spiritual Isreal from descendants of Jacob That means you friend
 

Blain

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Well there ya go. You see this forum as your mission field; and what you'd like me to do is step aside and let you preach anything you think God has told you to preach. But I don't believe God has called you; personally, it seems to me, you're self-appointed. So the best I can promise is to try and be civil, but I won't go along with your agenda.
You literally asked me what it is for me. what on earth wrre you expecting me to say? you just love to lay traps and thern twist what is said exactly like the enemy do you seriously not see that?

I am to sick right now to keep dealing with this at the moment I will try to come back as soon as I can but at the moment it is hard to do this.
 
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Jesus Christ himself said he is the way the truth and the light and you and I both know I never said throw out the written word you are just attacking and I am sure it is for a good reason but don't claim to be being it for any other reason than the hurt your dealing with.

I am not going to repeat myself again if you cannot back off then I will not respond to anything you say so you can go on every post you want but you won't get a response
I am not doing well health wise Currently I am sick with something like the cold and am not in the mood to deal with stuff like this.
Just remember the parables of the seed planting and talents that all I can say for now.
I'm not actually addressing you. I am addressing your error and pray that people who are ignorant of deception or the fact that not everyone who says God inspired me to say or do such and such speaks from the Spirit of God. Further, you totally ignore the fact that Paul states prophets should speak by 2 or 3 and their words are to be judged. To do such, actually proves that what I say is true.

You cannot go beyond the written word as you say you do. You are entering a place where truth does not exist and receiving a mishmash of lovely sounding words that are not from God.

So relax. I know I cannot convince you otherwise and I am not debating you. I am not not addressing you. I am dealing with the fact you think the Bible is a stepping stone to another place. The Bible is your anchor. Despise it, and the waters will cover your head.
 

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Bother I agree with everything you said perfectly well, I am just uncertain as if is is now !
here is why from what you wrote:
"For this is the covenant that God will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the LORD: I will put my law within them, and I will write it on their hearts. And I will be their God, and they shall be my people.""

Do you see here in this forum everyone united in saying the commandments are in their hearts ? Many here reject the commandments as nailed to the cross and no longer applicable. I know however that some here who believe in Jesus by doing what he asks ( this is what it means to believe in him!!!!) do have the commandments written in their hearts just like you and a few other here but not all. The scriptures are clear! if you say now in relation to the few who love the commands and obey them then I agree. for these few they are under the new covenant!

Blessings.
When someone suggests that the commandments have been nailed to the cross, they aren't saying they don't keep the commandments. They are saying that Christ has fulfilled the righteousness necessary in them on our behalf.
We are all to love God and love our neighbors. If we are doing that, we are in fact keeping all the commandments.

Matthew 22:37-40:
Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
This is the first and great commandment.
And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

Notice a couple of things:
1. The commandments are positive and not negative. No more thou shalt not.
2. When we love God and love our neighbors genuinely, we cannot be simultaneously breaking any commandments.
 

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oh Hi, I am sorry I overlooked your post,
I mean the new covenant is for everyone who beleive in the Word, yes everyone. I did not state what i believed because I was not certain, it is good to see sometimew what other think or know, I am not perfect and have a lot to learn as scriptures are linked in many ways and one have to be very knowledgeable ( which I am not ) to see the different links between the different books of the bible, they complement one another perfectly.

Peace.
this may help

Psalm 119:33-37 King James Version (KJV)
Teach me, O LORD, the way of thy statutes; And I shall keep it unto the end. Give me understanding, and I shall keep thy law; Yea, I shall observe it with my whole heart. Make me to go in the path of thy commandments; For therein do I delight.
 

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You literally asked me what it is for me. what on earth wrre you expecting me to say? you just love to lay traps and thern twist what is said exactly like the enemy do you seriously not see that?

I am to sick right now to keep dealing with this at the moment I will try to come back as soon as I can but at the moment it is hard to do this.
I thought you might say something more on target with what the forum is actually about: Fellowship, discussion, sharing thoughts and ideas. But since you said it was a place for you to satisfy your own personal agenda (preaching) rather than it's true purpose I responded accordingly.
 
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But it requires utter surrender to him the truth that goes past just the written word he calls you to the real thing himself. That is when you make him not just your savior but your Lord and that title demands respect you serve him no if and or butt.
The above is what I warn about. Cults are formed by just this very device.

The very phrase 'Just' the written word is dismissive and shows less respect than for whatever it is a person thinks they are dealing with when being dismissive of scripture.
 

Fundaamental

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You literally asked me what it is for me. what on earth wrre you expecting me to say? you just love to lay traps and thern twist what is said exactly like the enemy do you seriously not see that?

I am to sick right now to keep dealing with this at the moment I will try to come back as soon as I can but at the moment it is hard to do this.
we are all witnesses to your utterances from the lord 🙂

And there is good witnesses and witnesses speaking with emotionally fueled comments,

Where more than one good witness is gathered
Utterance from the lord can be heard.

I believe that this can be such a place.

So this comment from others that say theese witnesses must be in person face to face is like saying we are not all spiritually connected.

Do you see the irony of it
 

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I'm not actually addressing you. I am addressing your error and pray that people who are ignorant of deception or the fact that not everyone who says God inspired me to say or do such and such speaks from the Spirit of God. Further, you totally ignore the fact that Paul states prophets should speak by 2 or 3 and their words are to be judged. To do such, actually proves that what I say is true.

You cannot go beyond the written word as you say you do. You are entering a place where truth does not exist and receiving a mishmash of lovely sounding words that are not from God.

So relax. I know I cannot convince you otherwise and I am not debating you. I am not not addressing you. I am dealing with the fact you think the Bible is a stepping stone to another place. The Bible is your anchor. Despise it, and the waters will cover your head.
I have said many times to you before I never said to throw away the written word I said we should go about it a different way a different way of reading it and since all this divsion and ocnfusion on what the written word says is such a problem when there is only one truth and so to understnad the written word best we have to go first fir the living word he is a real person don't forget that you can study right under him but it will require utter surrender I mean giving him every thing in your being the fear of the Lord is both intense and mesmorizing your serve him place yourself under his feet in the sense that you are his to use no questions asked.

This is the resolve he wants he doesn't need more scholars you are well versed well studied well equipped in the written word then he says to you are you ready for the real thing?

You don't throw away the word of God you get to study it under him personally. So you can say or think what you want all I can do is leave it at this for now.
 

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Grace911, post: 5122764, member: 277291

Deuteronomy 24:1“When a man takes a wife and marries her, and it happens that she finds no favor in his eyes because he has found some uncleanness in her, and he writes her a certificate of divorce, puts it in her hand, and sends her out of his house, 2when she has departed from his house, and goes and becomes another man’s wife, 3if the latter husband detests her and writes her a certificate of divorce, puts it in her hand, and sends her out of his house, or if the latter husband dies who took her as his wife, 4 Then her former husband who divorced her must not take her back to be his wife after she has been defiled; for that is an abomination before the Lord, and you shall not bring sin on the land which the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance. you see this as God divorcing Israel, I do not, I see simply God instructing his people.

Jeremiah 31:31Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: 32Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD: 33But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days( the last days), saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. Why do you quote this? do you follow the commandments?

Romans 7:1–4 Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth? 2 For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband. 3 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man. 4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God. yes paul seem to quote deuteronomy

God loved his wife so much that He desired to remarry her, but His own law did not permit Him to. (See Deuteronomy 24:1-4) His laws are forever and to add or diminish is a SIN. God is perfect and His Words are perfect, and that is why you cannot add or diminish. I do not agree with your faulty interpretation of scripture

God knew the Way for His wife to remarry (re-covenant) without sinning.

Jeremiah 3:1
They say, ‘If a man divorces his wife,
And she goes from him
And becomes another man’s,
May he return to her again?’
Would not that land be greatly polluted?
But you have played the harlot with many lovers;
“YET RETURN TO ME” says the Lord. yes I agree with this this is what the lord wants.

YHWH/LORD is Yeshua - Immanuel -God with us - in the flesh. Yeshua means Yah’s salvation (Strong’s H3444). He had to come as a man and He willingly died and then RESSURECTED!! Most beautiful love story. God loves me and you so much that He came as a man so He could die and resurect from the dead so that we can now remarry Him and be His Bride when He returns - Second Coming. yes this is in prophecy

I will add here that when I was not aware of the Word, and just got fed little bites of lies ( probably cherry picked verses not in context) for a long long time, it was refreshing to have my understanding opened and to see all Babylonian pagan worship intermingled with New Testament was absolutely Satanic. This mixing of pagan with Jesus is why we see in Revelation this:

Revelation 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

What are they suppose to come out of? The mixing of pagan mystery religions with Jesus. are you saying Paul's view is a mystery/pagan religion?

It takes time to learn what these pagan practices are and how they have been handed down, even from the days of the Acts.

answers in blue in your text... above

Cheers.
 

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Grace911, post: 5122764, member: 277291

What are they suppose to come out of? The mixing of pagan mystery religions with Jesus. are you saying Paul's view is a mystery/pagan religion?
I am not saying Paul's view is a mystery/pagan religion!! The pagan religions celebrated the Sun. The pagans celebrated the sun becoming new again with longer days around or on December 25. The pagan religions celebrated fertility in the spring which is where we find the traditions of Easter eggs and chocolate bunnies. The pagan religions had a goddess called cupid that was celebrated on February 14. That pagan religions celebrated the Fall feasts, and all hallows eve, that we call Halloween. The pagans celebrated the "Queen of Heaven" and call her Mother Mary and kiss her feet. This Mother Mary always has a sun halo around her head making her in that churches view a goddess. There is so much mixing, it is no wonder we have had a hard time adjusting to the truth.

Jeremiah 16:19 O LORD, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ends of the earth, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit.


So here is the problem, that is the mixing into Christianity, modern day churches have Fall Festivals to replace Halloween. The whole world buys and gives gift for Valentines day. Modern day churches celebrate Christmas and putting a tree in the church. Modern day churches have Sunday sunrise services which is also of the pagan religions. Modern day churches follow after the Catholic/Universal church. When Martin Luther posted his thesis on the german church door, it didn't protest enough. They continued keeping the Sunday tradition that Emperor Constantine initiated so as to appease the pagans in his territory, believing that would bring peace.

I never have seen Paul encourage any such pagan religion on the new believers. I do not find in Letivicus 23 - The LORD's Feasts being done in modern day churches because they have chosen to dismiss anything from the Old Testament.

If there is any New Testament character that we can blame the mixing would be Simon Magus who is the founder of the Universal Church.
 

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I am not saying Paul's view is a mystery/pagan religion!! The pagan religions celebrated the Sun. The pagans celebrated the sun becoming new again with longer days around or on December 25. The pagan religions celebrated fertility in the spring which is where we find the traditions of Easter eggs and chocolate bunnies. The pagan religions had a goddess called cupid that was celebrated on February 14. That pagan religions celebrated the Fall feasts, and all hallows eve, that we call Halloween. The pagans celebrated the "Queen of Heaven" and call her Mother Mary and kiss her feet. This Mother Mary always has a sun halo around her head making her in that churches view a goddess. There is so much mixing, it is no wonder we have had a hard time adjusting to the truth.

Jeremiah 16:19 O LORD, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ends of the earth, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit.

So here is the problem, that is the mixing into Christianity, modern day churches have Fall Festivals to replace Halloween. The whole world buys and gives gift for Valentines day. Modern day churches celebrate Christmas and putting a tree in the church. Modern day churches have Sunday sunrise services which is also of the pagan religions. Modern day churches follow after the Catholic/Universal church. When Martin Luther posted his thesis on the german church door, it didn't protest enough. They continued keeping the Sunday tradition that Emperor Constantine initiated so as to appease the pagans in his territory, believing that would bring peace.

I never have seen Paul encourage any such pagan religion on the new believers. I do not find in Letivicus 23 - The LORD's Feasts being done in modern day churches because they have chosen to dismiss anything from the Old Testament.

If there is any New Testament character that we can blame the mixing would be Simon Magus who is the founder of the Universal Church.
I know it is not true but some writings say paul was simon magnus, i did not research this as i know it is not true. but yes there are pagan items in today's christian rites, I agree with that.
 

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I know it is not true but some writings say paul was simon magnus, i did not research this as i know it is not true. but yes there are pagan items in today's christian rites, I agree with that.
I've never heard or read that Paul was Simon Magnus. The Catholic Church claims that the apostle Peter was the founder, however I've read that is not possible because of the dates claimed. Simon Magnus was also called "Peter" or "Petro" or "Father". Simon Magnus was from the Babylonian arts and did do miraculous signs by the devil/satan. Constantine was also a huge influencer of changing the laws and times. As we read about the Samaritans in the New Testament, they were placed in Samaria when the House of Judah was taken captive to Babylon. Of course, these Samaritans brought their gods with them. In Revelation we read
Rev_2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
Rev_3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

John was reporting what Jesus was saying to the churches. Who are these that claim to be Jews (when it is convenient to say so)? It is the planted Samaritans from Babylon. These Samaritans refuse to mix with true Jews and so for many centuries they inbreed. They have lots of physical deformities because of this.

2 Kings 17:24-28
Assyria Resettles Samaria
2Ki 17:24 And the king of Assyria brought men from Babylon, and from Cuthah, and from Ava, and from Hamath, and from Sepharvaim, and placed them in the cities of Samaria instead of the children of Israel: and they possessed Samaria, and dwelt in the cities thereof.
2Ki 17:25 And so it was at the beginning of their dwelling there, that they feared not the LORD: therefore the LORD sent lions among them, which slew some of them.
2Ki 17:26 Wherefore they spake to the king of Assyria, saying, The nations which thou hast removed, and placed in the cities of Samaria, know not the manner of the God of the land: therefore he hath sent lions among them, and, behold, they slay them, because they know not the manner of the God of the land.
2Ki 17:27 Then the king of Assyria commanded, saying, Carry thither one of the priests whom ye brought from thence; and let them go and dwell there, and let him teach them the manner of the God of the land.
2Ki 17:28 Then one of the priests whom they had carried away from Samaria came and dwelt in Bethel, and taught them how they should fear the LORD.
 

ThyKingdomComeSoon

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I've never heard or read that Paul was Simon Magnus. The Catholic Church claims that the apostle Peter was the founder, however I've read that is not possible because of the dates claimed. Simon Magnus was also called "Peter" or "Petro" or "Father". Simon Magnus was from the Babylonian arts and did do miraculous signs by the devil/satan. Constantine was also a huge influencer of changing the laws and times. As we read about the Samaritans in the New Testament, they were placed in Samaria when the House of Judah was taken captive to Babylon. Of course, these Samaritans brought their gods with them. In Revelation we read
Rev_2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
Rev_3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

John was reporting what Jesus was saying to the churches. Who are these that claim to be Jews (when it is convenient to say so)? It is the planted Samaritans from Babylon. These Samaritans refuse to mix with true Jews and so for many centuries they inbreed. They have lots of physical deformities because of this.

2 Kings 17:24-28
Assyria Resettles Samaria
2Ki 17:24 And the king of Assyria brought men from Babylon, and from Cuthah, and from Ava, and from Hamath, and from Sepharvaim, and placed them in the cities of Samaria instead of the children of Israel: and they possessed Samaria, and dwelt in the cities thereof.
2Ki 17:25 And so it was at the beginning of their dwelling there, that they feared not the LORD: therefore the LORD sent lions among them, which slew some of them.
2Ki 17:26 Wherefore they spake to the king of Assyria, saying, The nations which thou hast removed, and placed in the cities of Samaria, know not the manner of the God of the land: therefore he hath sent lions among them, and, behold, they slay them, because they know not the manner of the God of the land.
2Ki 17:27 Then the king of Assyria commanded, saying, Carry thither one of the priests whom ye brought from thence; and let them go and dwell there, and let him teach them the manner of the God of the land.
2Ki 17:28 Then one of the priests whom they had carried away from Samaria came and dwelt in Bethel, and taught them how they should fear the LORD.
thank you for the post, informative, i found the link where i saw mentioned that paul was probably simon magnus, it is crazy the false info on the internet, one must be careful and use discernment.

https://timsteppingout.wordpress.com/2016/01/07/the-apostle-paul-simon-magus-and-marcion/

Blessings.
 
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I have said many times to you before I never said to throw away the written word
Who told you to throw away your Bible? Can you produce that person? Well no you can't because this is simply you trying to justify yourself as you have done whenever someone does not gloss over your statements but points out the error instead.

But it requires utter surrender to him the truth that goes past just the written word he calls you to the real thing himself. That is when you make him not just your savior but your Lord and that title demands respect you serve him no if and or butt.
You very clearly and deliberately say go past scripture...you call it the truth that goes past JUST the written word.

Does go past scripture mean something other than the obvious?

The Bible does not teach what you say people should do.

Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world. And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth. John 17: 17-26

I will praise thee with my whole heart: before the gods will I sing praise unto thee. [2] I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name. Psalm 138