Public prayer....Matthew 6:5

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dodgingstones

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Which is exactly what Jesus tsught, and the Gospel of John is all about.
 

John146

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Which is exactly what Jesus tsught, and the Gospel of John is all about.
Weird Huh, the 12 disciples of Jesus did not understand the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus. The same message Paul states is the gospel for the forgiveness of sin. Strange...imagine preaching the gospel today and not knowing about the cross. Really?

Luke 18
31 Then he took unto him the twelve, and said unto them, Behold, we go up to Jerusalem, and all things that are written by the prophets concerning the Son of man shall be accomplished.
32 For he shall be delivered unto the Gentiles, and shall be mocked, and spitefully entreated, and spitted on:
33 And they shall scourge him, and put him to death: and the third day he shall rise again.
34 And they understood none of these things: and this saying was hid from them, neither knew they the things which were spoken.
 

dodgingstones

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Can you quote Scripture where Jesus and His disciples were going around preaching the gospel of grace, that is Christ’s death, burial and resurrection for sin? Thanks.

Your 1st post on this. Jesus did. As is evident in references provided. The Disciples did. As is evident in their Epistles. The Gospel of John does. Some see, some don't.

Such is the way of things.
 

John146

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Your 1st post on this. Jesus did. As is evident in references provided. The Disciples did. As is evident in their Epistles. The Gospel of John does. Some see, some don't.

Such is the way of things.
The disciples understand after the resurrection when the Lord starts to open their eyes to the truth. The gospel of John can only be understood through the truth told after the resurrection, and mainly through Paul’s epistles.
 

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God knows our heart. It doesn’t matter where you’re praying, if you’re doing so in a glorifying manner then God will deem it good.
 

dodgingstones

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One final comment.
Mat. 26:26...30
Luke 23:33...49
Luke 24:1...53
John 11:25, 26
Mat. 20:18, 19
1 Thess. 4:14
1 Peter 3:1

and there are several more... but on the phone it's a bit difficult.

God bless
 

John146

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One final comment.
Mat. 26:26...30
Luke 23:33...49
Luke 24:1...53
John 11:25, 26
Mat. 20:18, 19
1 Thess. 4:14
1 Peter 3:1

and there are several more... but on the phone it's a bit difficult.

God bless
Not the gospel message.
Matthew 26:26 And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed it, and brake it, and gave it to the disciples, and said, Take, eat; this is my body.

How it’s taking place.
Luke 23:33 33 And when they were come to the place, which is called Calvary, there they crucified him, and the malefactors, one on the right hand, and the other on the left.

Last day resurrection was a Jewish belief. Martha did not have a clue. Jesus is prophesying of what was to come.
John 11:24 Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day.
25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:

Epistles written after the resurrection contain preaching the gospel unto salvation, but not before.
 

John146

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One final comment.
Mat. 26:26...30
Luke 23:33...49
Luke 24:1...53
John 11:25, 26
Mat. 20:18, 19
1 Thess. 4:14
1 Peter 3:1

and there are several more... but on the phone it's a bit difficult.

God bless
Were the twelve sent out preaching the gospel of grace, the same gospel of Christ’s d,b,r when they did not understand or believe it themselves?

Matthew 10
5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:
6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
7 And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand.
8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.

The gospel of the kingdom is good news to Israel of their promised Messiah come to restore the kingdom to Israel wither the prophesied King ruling on the throne of David. This preaching included signs which th3 Jews required in order to believe. The gospel of grace is by faith.
 
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He did not teach them about Hid death, burial and resurrection. He mentioned it a couple times and they had no clue what He was talking about. Peter even rebuked Him for saying such things.
To many people, hinting about his death burial and resurrection privately to a selected group, is equivalent to "preaching his death burial and resurrection".

They won't be convinced any other way, so no point in trying to discuss with them. :)