Question about the New Heaven and the New Earth
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God will recreate or renew the heavens and the earth. All the problems regarding the environment will be solved-ie. the ozone layer and global warming. The meek(those in Heaven) will inheret the new earth and live on earth in spirit form forever with God who will also be in spirit/eternal form after coming back from heaven on the Mount of Olives with the entire host of heaven (the angels)
Even in the OT, it is clear that the New Heaven and New Earth are not a refurbishment of the old....but are something entirely new, which never existed before, as thus...
Isaiah 65.17 -18
For, behold, I create new heavens and new earth. And the former things shall not be recalled, and they shall not go up on the heart. However, be glad and rejoice forever in what I create. For, behold, I create in Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy.
The key Hebrew creation verb 'ḇō·w·rê' ('bara' variant) informs the reader that this event is something entirely new - made by God.
Further, observe that the verb is repeated three times....same as it is in Genesis when Adam & Eve are created....obviously signifying the Triune Creator at work.
The connection of the “heavens” with ruling power aids in understanding the meaning of the expression “new heavens and a new earth” found at Isaiah 65:17; 66:22 and quoted by the apostle Peter at 2 Peter 3:13. Observing such relationship, M’Clintock and Strong’s Cyclopaedia (1891, Vol. IV, p. 122) comments: “In Isa. lxv, 17, a new heaven and a new earth signify a new government, new kingdom, new people.”
In the Bible, “earth” does not always refer to our globe. For instance, Psalm 96:1 says literally: “Sing to Jehovah, all the earth.” We know that our planet-the terra firma and the vast oceans-cannot sing. People sing. Yes, Psalm 96:1 is referring to the people on the earth. If “heavens” can symbolize the superior ruling power or government so, to “earth.” represents a new society of people.
The prophecy presenting the promise of “new heavens and a new earth,” given through Isaiah, was one dealing initially with the restoration of Israel from Babylonian exile. Upon the Israelites’ return to their homeland, they entered into a new system of things. Cyrus the Great was used prominently by God in bringing about that restoration. Back in Jerusalem, Zerubbabel (a descendant of David) served as governor, and Joshua as high priest. In harmony with Jehovah’s purpose, this new governmental arrangement, or “new heavens,” directed and supervised the subject people.-2 Chronicles 36:23; Haggai 1:1, 14.
Peter, however, shows that a future fulfillment was to be anticipated, on the basis of God’s promise. (2 Peter 3:13) Since God’s promise in this case relates to the presence of Christ Jesus, as shown at verse 4, the “new heavens and a new earth” must relate to God’s Messianic Kingdom and its rule over obedient subjects. By his resurrection and ascension to God’s right hand, Christ Jesus became “higher than the heavens” (Hebrews 7:26) in that he was thereby placed “far above every government and authority and power and lordship…not only in this system of things, but also in that to come.” (Ephesians 1:19-21; Matthew 28:18) This Kingdom government, under Christ and his 144,000 corulers, is the new heavens.-Revelation 14:1.
These Christian followers of Jesus, as “partakers of the heavenly calling” (Hebrews 3:1), are assigned by God as “heirs” in union with Christ, through whom God purposed “to gather all things together again.” “The things in the heavens,” that is, those called to heavenly life, are the first to be thus gathered into unity with God through Christ. (Ephesians 1:8-11) Their inheritance is “reserved in the heavens.” (1 Peter 1:3, 4; Colossians 1:5; compare John 14:2, 3) They are “enrolled” and have their “citizenship” in the heavens. (Hebrews 12:23; Philippians 3:20) They form the “New Jerusalem” seen in John’s vision as “coming down out of heaven from God.” (Revelation 21:2, 9, 10) Since this vision is initially stated to be of “a new heaven and a new earth” (Revelation 21:1), it follows that both are represented in what is thereafter described. Hence the “new heaven” must correspond to Christ together with his “bride,” the “New Jerusalem,” and the “new earth” is seen in the “peoples of mankind” who are their subjects and who receive the blessings of their rule, as depicted in verses 3 and 4.
John’s vision refers to the passing away of “the former heaven and the former earth.” (Revelation 21:1; compare Isaiah 57:20; Revelation 20:11.) In the Christian Greek Scriptures, earthly governments and their peoples are shown to be subject to Satanic rule. (Matthew 4:8, 9; John 12:31; 2 Corinthians 4:3, 4; Revelation 12:9; 16:13, 14) The apostle Paul referred to “the wicked spirit forces in the heavenly places,” with their governments, authorities, and world rulers. (Ephesians 6:12) So the passing away of “the former heaven” indicates the end of political governments along with Satan and his demons. This identification of “the former heaven” harmonizes with the fact that shortly before the statement concerning the “former heaven having passed away,” John had seen a vision of the complete defeat of Satan’s forces and the casting of Satan into “the abyss.”-Revelation 19:19-20:3.
As for the new earth, following the pattern of the ancient fulfillment, the new earth will be made up of people-from all nationalities, languages, and races-who gladly submit to the rulership of the new heavenly government. After the passing of the present wicked system of things, this group will form the nucleus of a new earth that will eventually be a globe-encircling society of God-fearing humans who inherit the earthly realm of God’s Kingdom.-Matthew 25:34.
In the Bible, “earth” does not always refer to our globe. For instance, Psalm 96:1 says literally: “Sing to Jehovah, all the earth.” We know that our planet-the terra firma and the vast oceans-cannot sing. People sing. Yes, Psalm 96:1 is referring to the people on the earth. If “heavens” can symbolize the superior ruling power or government so, to “earth.” represents a new society of people.
The prophecy presenting the promise of “new heavens and a new earth,” given through Isaiah, was one dealing initially with the restoration of Israel from Babylonian exile. Upon the Israelites’ return to their homeland, they entered into a new system of things. Cyrus the Great was used prominently by God in bringing about that restoration. Back in Jerusalem, Zerubbabel (a descendant of David) served as governor, and Joshua as high priest. In harmony with Jehovah’s purpose, this new governmental arrangement, or “new heavens,” directed and supervised the subject people.-2 Chronicles 36:23; Haggai 1:1, 14.
Peter, however, shows that a future fulfillment was to be anticipated, on the basis of God’s promise. (2 Peter 3:13) Since God’s promise in this case relates to the presence of Christ Jesus, as shown at verse 4, the “new heavens and a new earth” must relate to God’s Messianic Kingdom and its rule over obedient subjects. By his resurrection and ascension to God’s right hand, Christ Jesus became “higher than the heavens” (Hebrews 7:26) in that he was thereby placed “far above every government and authority and power and lordship…not only in this system of things, but also in that to come.” (Ephesians 1:19-21; Matthew 28:18) This Kingdom government, under Christ and his 144,000 corulers, is the new heavens.-Revelation 14:1.
These Christian followers of Jesus, as “partakers of the heavenly calling” (Hebrews 3:1), are assigned by God as “heirs” in union with Christ, through whom God purposed “to gather all things together again.” “The things in the heavens,” that is, those called to heavenly life, are the first to be thus gathered into unity with God through Christ. (Ephesians 1:8-11) Their inheritance is “reserved in the heavens.” (1 Peter 1:3, 4; Colossians 1:5; compare John 14:2, 3) They are “enrolled” and have their “citizenship” in the heavens. (Hebrews 12:23; Philippians 3:20) They form the “New Jerusalem” seen in John’s vision as “coming down out of heaven from God.” (Revelation 21:2, 9, 10) Since this vision is initially stated to be of “a new heaven and a new earth” (Revelation 21:1), it follows that both are represented in what is thereafter described. Hence the “new heaven” must correspond to Christ together with his “bride,” the “New Jerusalem,” and the “new earth” is seen in the “peoples of mankind” who are their subjects and who receive the blessings of their rule, as depicted in verses 3 and 4.
John’s vision refers to the passing away of “the former heaven and the former earth.” (Revelation 21:1; compare Isaiah 57:20; Revelation 20:11.) In the Christian Greek Scriptures, earthly governments and their peoples are shown to be subject to Satanic rule. (Matthew 4:8, 9; John 12:31; 2 Corinthians 4:3, 4; Revelation 12:9; 16:13, 14) The apostle Paul referred to “the wicked spirit forces in the heavenly places,” with their governments, authorities, and world rulers. (Ephesians 6:12) So the passing away of “the former heaven” indicates the end of political governments along with Satan and his demons. This identification of “the former heaven” harmonizes with the fact that shortly before the statement concerning the “former heaven having passed away,” John had seen a vision of the complete defeat of Satan’s forces and the casting of Satan into “the abyss.”-Revelation 19:19-20:3.
As for the new earth, following the pattern of the ancient fulfillment, the new earth will be made up of people-from all nationalities, languages, and races-who gladly submit to the rulership of the new heavenly government. After the passing of the present wicked system of things, this group will form the nucleus of a new earth that will eventually be a globe-encircling society of God-fearing humans who inherit the earthly realm of God’s Kingdom.-Matthew 25:34.
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Prophetic language is not literal as many want. Here are some fulfilled prophecies:
Deut 32:22 "For a fire is kindled in mine anger, and shall burn unto the lowest hell, and shall consume the earth with her increase, and set on fire the foundations of the mountains"
Did the earth get consumed? Or did Israel get judged?
Isaiah 51:13 God said that He had "stretched forth the heavens, and laid the foundations of the earth" Once again, is God speaking here of the literal heavens and earth?
16: "And I have put my words in thy mouth, and I have covered thee in the shadow of mine hand, that I may plant the heavens, and lay the foun¬dations of the earth, and say unto Zion, Thou art my people."
Huih? that happenned 3000 years earliar. He talking about forming a nation.
Matthew 5:18 "Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled"
Israel is the heaven and earth in this passage.
Isa 24:1,19-20
"Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty, and maketh it waste, and turneth it upside down, and scattereth abroad the inhabitants thereof."
"The earth is utterly broken down, the earth is clean dissolved, the earth is moved exceedingly.
"The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and not rise again."
This is talking about the Assyrians being used to bring Judgement on Israel.
Isaiahs version: 34:4-5 God said that "all the host of heaven shall be dissolved, and the heavens shall be rolled together as a scroll: and all their host shall fall down, as the leaf falleth off from the vine, and as a falling fig from the fig tree.”
"For my sword shall be bathed in heaven: behold, it shall come down upon Idumea, and upon the people of my curse, to judgment."
Not literally - that the literal heavens would be dissolved and rolled together as a scroll, for He said that His "sword shall be bathed in heaven" and then follows explaining what He meant - the sword would "come down on Idumea."
The rulers and their people would face judgment from the Lord. And God said, "my sword;" and He used the armies of heathen people to accomplish His purpose.
If the dissolving of heaven and earth were to be taken literally in all the passages of the Old Testament where such language is used, it would necessarily mean that the heavens and earth were to be destroyed numerous times!
There are many many more and becuase of the present literalism many people dont see that some prophecies
were about the Lords death, the day of penticost. 70ad and such and have pushed them into the future even tho
these prophecies have come to past in the OT and the earth never burned up not did the Heavens vanish
at least not as one would notice.
All that to say the New Heavens and the New earth have a spiritual meaning.
Deut 32:22 "For a fire is kindled in mine anger, and shall burn unto the lowest hell, and shall consume the earth with her increase, and set on fire the foundations of the mountains"
Did the earth get consumed? Or did Israel get judged?
Isaiah 51:13 God said that He had "stretched forth the heavens, and laid the foundations of the earth" Once again, is God speaking here of the literal heavens and earth?
16: "And I have put my words in thy mouth, and I have covered thee in the shadow of mine hand, that I may plant the heavens, and lay the foun¬dations of the earth, and say unto Zion, Thou art my people."
Huih? that happenned 3000 years earliar. He talking about forming a nation.
Matthew 5:18 "Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled"
Israel is the heaven and earth in this passage.
Isa 24:1,19-20
"Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty, and maketh it waste, and turneth it upside down, and scattereth abroad the inhabitants thereof."
"The earth is utterly broken down, the earth is clean dissolved, the earth is moved exceedingly.
"The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and not rise again."
This is talking about the Assyrians being used to bring Judgement on Israel.
Isaiahs version: 34:4-5 God said that "all the host of heaven shall be dissolved, and the heavens shall be rolled together as a scroll: and all their host shall fall down, as the leaf falleth off from the vine, and as a falling fig from the fig tree.”
"For my sword shall be bathed in heaven: behold, it shall come down upon Idumea, and upon the people of my curse, to judgment."
Not literally - that the literal heavens would be dissolved and rolled together as a scroll, for He said that His "sword shall be bathed in heaven" and then follows explaining what He meant - the sword would "come down on Idumea."
The rulers and their people would face judgment from the Lord. And God said, "my sword;" and He used the armies of heathen people to accomplish His purpose.
If the dissolving of heaven and earth were to be taken literally in all the passages of the Old Testament where such language is used, it would necessarily mean that the heavens and earth were to be destroyed numerous times!
There are many many more and becuase of the present literalism many people dont see that some prophecies
were about the Lords death, the day of penticost. 70ad and such and have pushed them into the future even tho
these prophecies have come to past in the OT and the earth never burned up not did the Heavens vanish
at least not as one would notice.
All that to say the New Heavens and the New earth have a spiritual meaning.
T
2Pe 3:10-13 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall
pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the
works that are therein shall be burned up. (11) Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved,
what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, (12) Looking for and
hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and
the elements shall melt with fervent heat? (13) Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for
new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
Doesn't sound like a new paint job and plant a few trees to me. Everything is going to get dissolved.
Then the new is made. God is able to do all that within the snap of your fingers.
pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the
works that are therein shall be burned up. (11) Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved,
what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, (12) Looking for and
hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and
the elements shall melt with fervent heat? (13) Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for
new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
Doesn't sound like a new paint job and plant a few trees to me. Everything is going to get dissolved.
Then the new is made. God is able to do all that within the snap of your fingers.
How can they be perfect and imperishable if they require blood to sustain them?
If they did not require blood to live, then what's the point in them having blood in them?
what happens if we cut oursleves in the new Heaven, will their be plasters there to place on the wound?
Or a blood bank in case we need a transfusion?
Crutches in case we twist an ankle?
Asprin for a headache?
The mind boggles
If they did not require blood to live, then what's the point in them having blood in them?
what happens if we cut oursleves in the new Heaven, will their be plasters there to place on the wound?
Or a blood bank in case we need a transfusion?
Crutches in case we twist an ankle?
Asprin for a headache?
The mind boggles
At the last trump( by the way it's the only musical instrument that Lucifer doe's not master) The Dead in Christ shall rise first. Who is that, All those who accepted Christ from the beginning. Okay now I've opened a can of worms. The old testament saints looked forward to the cross and we (new Testament saints) look back to the cross. When we are saved we are saved in spirit and our minds are renewed by the word of GOD. Our bodies will be redeemed at the Resurrection. Which shows the Trinity as we are made in his image. Any way, and we shall receive glorified bodies (the complete redemption). Such as Jesus when was transfigured and James, John , and Peter witnessed. Paul said, we shall be like him.
T
I don't know, I'm not God. Maybe God chooses to sustain us in that manner. God doesn't abandon the physical in favour of the spiritual. The spiritual is exceedingly important but the physical isn't useless or evil. We don't abandon our physical humanity when we enter our true home, we receive a God-glorifying new body and soul/spirit. We remain human but our complete identity is in Christ. Your disgust for the physical is rather Gnostic.
Where do you get all this from Tin Tin?
At the resurrection people will neither marry or be given in marriage, they will be like the angels in Heaven
Matt22:30
I guess you believe the angels in Heaven are in bodies of flesh and blood, though they never lived on earth in human bodies
Are not all angels ministering SPIRITS sent to serve those who will receive salvation
Heb1:14
That's my last word, for I know the scriprtures will not be accepted when one has made their mind up
At the resurrection people will neither marry or be given in marriage, they will be like the angels in Heaven
Matt22:30
I guess you believe the angels in Heaven are in bodies of flesh and blood, though they never lived on earth in human bodies
Are not all angels ministering SPIRITS sent to serve those who will receive salvation
Heb1:14
That's my last word, for I know the scriprtures will not be accepted when one has made their mind up
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