question: Can an unsaved person be baptized in the Holy Spirit?
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Precious friend, thanks for asking:
Depends on men's 'definition' of baptized 'in' The Holy Spirit? I have not yet
found that, Nor have I found 'of' The Spirit baptism. What I have found In God's
Word Of Truth Are these:
Summary of: Three baptisms, Rightly Divided, Within God's Contexts:
(1) Prophecy/Covenants/Law for ISRAEL:
water baptism was man's operation, Commanded by God
to John the baptizer, and then by Christ to:
►►► The Twelve apostles who Were Sent to {water} baptize! ◄◄◄
The TWO Main (of 12) baptismS =
A) water, For remission of sins/induction into Israeli "priesthood!":
(Matthew_3:5-6; Mark_1:4; Luke_3:3; John_1:31; Luke 7:29-30; Acts_10:37)
(Matthew_28:19; Mark_16:16; Acts_2:38, 22:16; Ezekiel_36:25)
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This Is The Baptism That "Christ Performed" after ascending Into Heaven:
B) Baptism WITH The Holy Spirit, Poured Out By CHRIST, for
power, signs And wonders!
(Isaiah_44:3; Matthew_3:11; Mark_1:8, 16:17-18;
Luke_24:49; Acts_2:17-18, 38, 8:15-17, 11:16)
Thus, the lost sheep of the house of Israel were saved by "remission of sins"
( by water ), and then were "Baptized By Christ, With" The Holy Spirit.
Prophecy/Covenants/Law
Q: Are these TWO "still Required" By God, for us, Today, Under Grace?
Bible Answer:
Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That DIFFER!” {online}:
(2) Mystery/GRACE! =
our "apostle to the Gentiles" for The Body Of CHRIST:
►►► Paul Was Not Sent to {water} baptize! Why Not?: ◄◄◄
Today: Only ONE Baptism = "BY" The ONE Spirit = God's OPERATION,
Spiritually Identifying members In (The ONE Body Of) CHRIST!!
(Ephesians_4:5; Colossians_2:12; Galatians_3:27;
Romans_6:3-4; ►►► 1 Corinthians 12:13 KJB ◄◄◄)
Today, UNbelievers who repent and have faith are Baptized "BY" The Holy
Spirit Into The Body Of Christ, Seated In The Heavenlies.
Hope this helps with your great question.
Amen.
Depends on men's 'definition' of baptized 'in' The Holy Spirit? I have not yet
found that, Nor have I found 'of' The Spirit baptism. What I have found In God's
Word Of Truth Are these:
Summary of: Three baptisms, Rightly Divided, Within God's Contexts:
(1) Prophecy/Covenants/Law for ISRAEL:
water baptism was man's operation, Commanded by God
to John the baptizer, and then by Christ to:
►►► The Twelve apostles who Were Sent to {water} baptize! ◄◄◄
The TWO Main (of 12) baptismS =
A) water, For remission of sins/induction into Israeli "priesthood!":
(Matthew_3:5-6; Mark_1:4; Luke_3:3; John_1:31; Luke 7:29-30; Acts_10:37)
(Matthew_28:19; Mark_16:16; Acts_2:38, 22:16; Ezekiel_36:25)
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This Is The Baptism That "Christ Performed" after ascending Into Heaven:
B) Baptism WITH The Holy Spirit, Poured Out By CHRIST, for
power, signs And wonders!
(Isaiah_44:3; Matthew_3:11; Mark_1:8, 16:17-18;
Luke_24:49; Acts_2:17-18, 38, 8:15-17, 11:16)
Thus, the lost sheep of the house of Israel were saved by "remission of sins"
( by water ), and then were "Baptized By Christ, With" The Holy Spirit.
Prophecy/Covenants/Law
Q: Are these TWO "still Required" By God, for us, Today, Under Grace?
Bible Answer:
Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That DIFFER!” {online}:
(2) Mystery/GRACE! =
our "apostle to the Gentiles" for The Body Of CHRIST:
►►► Paul Was Not Sent to {water} baptize! Why Not?: ◄◄◄
Today: Only ONE Baptism = "BY" The ONE Spirit = God's OPERATION,
Spiritually Identifying members In (The ONE Body Of) CHRIST!!
(Ephesians_4:5; Colossians_2:12; Galatians_3:27;
Romans_6:3-4; ►►► 1 Corinthians 12:13 KJB ◄◄◄)
Today, UNbelievers who repent and have faith are Baptized "BY" The Holy
Spirit Into The Body Of Christ, Seated In The Heavenlies.
Hope this helps with your great question.
Amen.
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One of the most ludicrous arguments that I have ever heard in a desperate effort to "get around" the fact that these Gentiles in Acts 10:43-47 had received the gift of the Holy Spirit and spoke in tongues (spiritual gift which is only for the body of Christ - 1 Corinthians 12) and were saved BEFORE water baptism is that Balaam's donkey (in Numbers 22) also spoke in tongues, but that does not prove the donkey was saved either. In the first place, the Lord simply opened the mouth of the donkey to speak in order to rebuke Balaam. The donkey did not receive the gift of the Holy Spirit or the spiritual gift of tongues, which is for believers only. This same ludicrous argument concludes that these Gentiles in Acts 10:43-47 merely received the gift of tongues, but not the gift of the Holy Spirit and were not saved until AFTER water baptism.
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People mix the baptism of the spirit. vs the anointing ministry of the spirit.
The holy spirit entering or coming into someone is the anointing of the spirit. as the holy oil was poured on the OT priests the oil representing the HS
the baptism of the spirit is God baptising us into Christ, His death and his body.. of which the washing with water in the river symbolizes (which is what Moses did to Aaron and his sons, John the baptist did to the people and Christ, and the disciples and the church does when they wash (immerse or baptize) people in water
it is the baptism of the spirit which saves a person.
it is being anointed with the spirit that gives us our gifts.. because the spirit comers in us
The holy spirit entering or coming into someone is the anointing of the spirit. as the holy oil was poured on the OT priests the oil representing the HS
the baptism of the spirit is God baptising us into Christ, His death and his body.. of which the washing with water in the river symbolizes (which is what Moses did to Aaron and his sons, John the baptist did to the people and Christ, and the disciples and the church does when they wash (immerse or baptize) people in water
it is the baptism of the spirit which saves a person.
it is being anointed with the spirit that gives us our gifts.. because the spirit comers in us
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Regardless of what happened before the resurrection of Jesus Christ, we all must be baptized in order receive the remission of sins and in order to receive the Gift of the Holy Spirit. This is the teaching of Jesus through the Apostles.
Peter answered them, “All of you must turn to God and change the way you think and act, and each of you must be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ so that your sins will be forgiven. Then you will receive the Holy Spirit as a gift. (Acts 2:38)
Peter answered them, “All of you must turn to God and change the way you think and act, and each of you must be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ so that your sins will be forgiven. Then you will receive the Holy Spirit as a gift. (Acts 2:38)
It is the baptism "so that your sins are forgiven" that saves a person. It is this same baptism that grants the Gift of the Holy Spirit.
Peter answered them, “All of you must turn to God and change the way you think and act, and each of you must be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ so that your sins will be forgiven. Then you will receive the Holy Spirit as a gift. (Acts 2:38)
Any attempt to deny, ignore, alter or malign this clear verse is a sign of a bias of theology.
Mankind is in a state of guilt and warfare with God because of sin. It is the remission of those sins that puts us into a state of grace with God.
Peter answered them, “All of you must turn to God and change the way you think and act, and each of you must be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ so that your sins will be forgiven. Then you will receive the Holy Spirit as a gift. (Acts 2:38)
Any attempt to deny, ignore, alter or malign this clear verse is a sign of a bias of theology.
Mankind is in a state of guilt and warfare with God because of sin. It is the remission of those sins that puts us into a state of grace with God.
Your bias is what has you stumped
Try to study that verse deeper. not just with your bias. you will see it does not say what it appears to say.
If baptism is required for salvation. anyone from Adam until today who has not been baptized in water is lost.. and since only the priests under the law and disciples starting with Christ were baptized. that's a lot of lost souls
Try to study that verse deeper. not just with your bias. you will see it does not say what it appears to say.
If baptism is required for salvation. anyone from Adam until today who has not been baptized in water is lost.. and since only the priests under the law and disciples starting with Christ were baptized. that's a lot of lost souls
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Kindly supply the scripture that identifies what you say here as the truth.
Our acceptance of Jesus by faith in His sacrificial death on the cross is what saves a person. Jesus died for the remission of our sins and the Holy Spirit does not save us. He is the 3rd person of the Trinity and seals us when we accept Jesus by faith. He does not save us.
Our acceptance of Jesus by faith in His sacrificial death on the cross is what saves a person. Jesus died for the remission of our sins and the Holy Spirit does not save us. He is the 3rd person of the Trinity and seals us when we accept Jesus by faith. He does not save us.
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Alot of denial has marched boldly into the body of Christ and Paul would say to you today 'Who has bewitched you?'
Cessationism is denial of the power of the Holy Spirit indwelling the believer to empower them for life to live as Christ would have us to live.
People like to focus on the gifts but if anyone studies or even just looks up the reason for the Holy Spirit, they will find that His main task seems to be simply enabling our lives from day to day as believers.
Cessationism is denial of the power of the Holy Spirit indwelling the believer to empower them for life to live as Christ would have us to live.
People like to focus on the gifts but if anyone studies or even just looks up the reason for the Holy Spirit, they will find that His main task seems to be simply enabling our lives from day to day as believers.
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