Recovering from the Matt. 28:19 Baptism formula. Pro-Christ Gentile save thyself.
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Hello,
I hope that you're joking.
The LORD said: "Your >> thoughts are heard louder than your words. in heaven"
Salvation was placed with the Apostles.
Follow them precisely and you will experience life with GOD and his Son.
David experienced life with Jesus only.
Acts.13
[26] Men and brethren, children of the stock of Abraham,
and whosoever among you >> feareth God,<< (the God attentive ones)
to you is the Word of this salvation sent.
The N.T. Team:
GOD >> Christ >> the Apostles until Christ, who is in us, physically returns.
Do good for yourself.
Take care
I hope that you're joking.
The LORD said: "Your >> thoughts are heard louder than your words. in heaven"
Salvation was placed with the Apostles.
Follow them precisely and you will experience life with GOD and his Son.
David experienced life with Jesus only.
Acts.13
[26] Men and brethren, children of the stock of Abraham,
and whosoever among you >> feareth God,<< (the God attentive ones)
to you is the Word of this salvation sent.
The N.T. Team:
GOD >> Christ >> the Apostles until Christ, who is in us, physically returns.
Do good for yourself.
Take care
No
Not everyone believed the Prophets.
Not everyone believed Christ.
Not everyone believed the Apostles.
I do and I follow them.
I am respectful to GOD and his ministers.
You have you own decision.
GOD gave you reasoning just like he gave to all.
The light will get stronger as the LORD approaches. Amen
Take care.
Not everyone believed Christ.
Not everyone believed the Apostles.
I do and I follow them.
I am respectful to GOD and his ministers.
You have you own decision.
GOD gave you reasoning just like he gave to all.
The light will get stronger as the LORD approaches. Amen
Take care.
Hello,
I understand your position but this tradition has secrets.
People have been going for the 'wet only' for a long time.
Did Jesus hide his identity from the Jews?
How then did he expect them to believe?
I was where you are.
SWEAT (knocking) brought me here.
I am only trying to help.
Take care my friend.
I understand your position but this tradition has secrets.
People have been going for the 'wet only' for a long time.
Did Jesus hide his identity from the Jews?
How then did he expect them to believe?
I was where you are.
SWEAT (knocking) brought me here.
I am only trying to help.
Take care my friend.
The plan of salvation is only a 'mystery' to the unsaved. Paul stipulates that.
I am so perplexed why no one has dealt with the issue of 'adding' baptism to the plan of salvation! That is exactly what has happened here, making the word of God of none effect. "Having to be baptized" while calling upon the Lord is a action of adding works to God's plan. We are baptized AFTER we are saved, not DURING!
I am so perplexed why no one has dealt with the issue of 'adding' baptism to the plan of salvation! That is exactly what has happened here, making the word of God of none effect. "Having to be baptized" while calling upon the Lord is a action of adding works to God's plan. We are baptized AFTER we are saved, not DURING!
Hello Stephen,
Thank you for a straight forward question clean of any insult.
To do what you have asked I would have to copy the N.T.
The Pictrure is as follows:
GOD our Father >> Jesus the Christ >> the Apostles >> until Jesus returns.
The Apostles are the Teachers for Our times.
Their names are still recorded in the Book.
The first Gentile believers were added by the Apostles.
Paul was sent to the Gentiles.
Most of his writings are still available.
If we repent = return/ come to Jesus and baptise calling upon him he responds...
I am disclosing the secret about calling him >> from under the water.
Christians hold the secrets from GOD.
Many things are written in code and spoken from mouth to ear.
I was like everyone else who believed my Teachers.
Going back to tha Apostles Doctrine is the answer.
That is the answer to your query.
I am not a Oneness believer.
The obedient get the blessings.
Start with correct baptism and enjoy the difference.
It was predicted that the majority would deny Jesus and they have done so starting at baptism.
When they denied him he denied them and Christians have been without GOD for generations.
Read the Acts and you will see the baptism calling on Jesus.
Then go from there.
It is worth your while.
I will answer your questions but anything that you have to experience I cannot explain.
Keep well.
Thank you for a straight forward question clean of any insult.
To do what you have asked I would have to copy the N.T.
The Pictrure is as follows:
GOD our Father >> Jesus the Christ >> the Apostles >> until Jesus returns.
The Apostles are the Teachers for Our times.
Their names are still recorded in the Book.
The first Gentile believers were added by the Apostles.
Paul was sent to the Gentiles.
Most of his writings are still available.
If we repent = return/ come to Jesus and baptise calling upon him he responds...
I am disclosing the secret about calling him >> from under the water.
Christians hold the secrets from GOD.
Many things are written in code and spoken from mouth to ear.
I was like everyone else who believed my Teachers.
Going back to tha Apostles Doctrine is the answer.
That is the answer to your query.
I am not a Oneness believer.
The obedient get the blessings.
Start with correct baptism and enjoy the difference.
It was predicted that the majority would deny Jesus and they have done so starting at baptism.
When they denied him he denied them and Christians have been without GOD for generations.
Read the Acts and you will see the baptism calling on Jesus.
Then go from there.
It is worth your while.
I will answer your questions but anything that you have to experience I cannot explain.
Keep well.
Hello Stephen,
Do you know anyone who fully follows the N.T.
It is not the group but the loyalty to the Teaching and clecving to Christ.
If anyone performed the first two steps of return and baptism then he will know.
GOD is actually in people after baptism.
Do not for one minute think that such people are stupid.
It is the mystery of the faith.
Take the focus off me and follow the Apostles.
The massas are predicted to follow heresy.
Read the Epistles and step back and observe.
I'm still trying to help. Most people that I know gave up.
The fact is that if people do not care about their own welfare ,
you or I cannot do it for them.
Look after yourself.
Doing wrong even in church is still wrong and Jesus is nor respector of persons.
Do you know anyone who fully follows the N.T.
It is not the group but the loyalty to the Teaching and clecving to Christ.
If anyone performed the first two steps of return and baptism then he will know.
GOD is actually in people after baptism.
Do not for one minute think that such people are stupid.
It is the mystery of the faith.
Take the focus off me and follow the Apostles.
The massas are predicted to follow heresy.
Read the Epistles and step back and observe.
I'm still trying to help. Most people that I know gave up.
The fact is that if people do not care about their own welfare ,
you or I cannot do it for them.
Look after yourself.
Doing wrong even in church is still wrong and Jesus is nor respector of persons.
Hello,
This Doctrine should be common knowledge for Christians.
This is what was preached after Christ ascended.
As the LORD approaches the light should get brighter.
Follow the Apostles:
Mark.16
[15] And he said unto them, (the Apostles)
Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
[16] He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
Luke.10
[16] He that heareth you (Apostles) heareth me;
and he that despiseth you despiseth me; and he that despiseth me despiseth him that sent me.
Acts.2
[42] And they continued stedfastly in the >> Apostles' Doctrine and fellowship,
and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.
[43] And fear came upon every soul:
and many >> wonders and >> signs (like Jesus) were done by the >> Apostles.
How many websites do you call several?
Are you a kind person who like to do good for others?
Do you share what you know and have?
What kind of person do you think that Jesus, who gave his life for others, was?
That is the kind of people that GOD desires to populate the planet.
People have to be alerted to what is happening.
Waiting to go to heaven is not it.
The first believers were glorified.
Matt.15
[13] But he answered and said:
Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up.
We need to ask our 'Bible' teachers where they got their Doctrine.
Jesus was opposed to the leaders who misled the common people.
Take it from here brother.
GOD is near everyone.
If you do not have the zeal then us some determination and get baptized.
Then you will know what GOD in you means.
All true Christians, like Christ, desire the Salvation of man.
GOD and Christ live and will fulfill their plan.
Take care
This Doctrine should be common knowledge for Christians.
This is what was preached after Christ ascended.
As the LORD approaches the light should get brighter.
Follow the Apostles:
Mark.16
[15] And he said unto them, (the Apostles)
Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
[16] He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
Luke.10
[16] He that heareth you (Apostles) heareth me;
and he that despiseth you despiseth me; and he that despiseth me despiseth him that sent me.
Acts.2
[42] And they continued stedfastly in the >> Apostles' Doctrine and fellowship,
and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.
[43] And fear came upon every soul:
and many >> wonders and >> signs (like Jesus) were done by the >> Apostles.
How many websites do you call several?
Are you a kind person who like to do good for others?
Do you share what you know and have?
What kind of person do you think that Jesus, who gave his life for others, was?
That is the kind of people that GOD desires to populate the planet.
People have to be alerted to what is happening.
Waiting to go to heaven is not it.
The first believers were glorified.
Matt.15
[13] But he answered and said:
Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up.
We need to ask our 'Bible' teachers where they got their Doctrine.
Jesus was opposed to the leaders who misled the common people.
Take it from here brother.
GOD is near everyone.
If you do not have the zeal then us some determination and get baptized.
Then you will know what GOD in you means.
All true Christians, like Christ, desire the Salvation of man.
GOD and Christ live and will fulfill their plan.
Take care
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They're back!!!!
Oneness or United Pentecostals!
We have been through this many times in this forum. Please look up the threads, and see our answers. Oh wait, they wouldn't reveal who they were either.
Sad to study the Bible and come out as a cult thinking they are the only ones that are truly saved. May God change your hearts away from this legalism and heresy concerning Jesus and the Trinity. (Yes, I know that word is not in the Bible - just revealed again and again through the pages and the actions of Jesus, the people, the Pharisees, etc, etc!)
"Then Moses said to God, “If I come to the people of Israel and say to them, ‘The God of your fathers has sent me to you,’ and they ask me, ‘What is his name?’ what shall I say to them?” [SUP]14 [/SUP]God said to Moses, “I am who I am.” And he said, “Say this to the people of Israel, ‘I am has sent me to you.’” [SUP]15 [/SUP]God also said to Moses, “Say this to the people of Israel, ‘The Lord, the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you.’ This is my name forever, and thus I am to be remembered throughout all generations." Ex. 3:13-15
"Your father Abraham rejoiced that he would see my day. He saw it and was glad.” [SUP]57 [/SUP]So the Jews said to him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and have you seen Abraham?” [SUP]58 [/SUP]Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.” [SUP]59 [/SUP]So they picked up stones to throw at him, but Jesus hid himself and went out of the temple." John 8:56-59
Read your Bible! Stop worrying about some formula for baptism and instead seek Jesus, who is the revelation of God, and the great "I am"!
Oneness or United Pentecostals!
We have been through this many times in this forum. Please look up the threads, and see our answers. Oh wait, they wouldn't reveal who they were either.
Sad to study the Bible and come out as a cult thinking they are the only ones that are truly saved. May God change your hearts away from this legalism and heresy concerning Jesus and the Trinity. (Yes, I know that word is not in the Bible - just revealed again and again through the pages and the actions of Jesus, the people, the Pharisees, etc, etc!)
"Then Moses said to God, “If I come to the people of Israel and say to them, ‘The God of your fathers has sent me to you,’ and they ask me, ‘What is his name?’ what shall I say to them?” [SUP]14 [/SUP]God said to Moses, “I am who I am.” And he said, “Say this to the people of Israel, ‘I am has sent me to you.’” [SUP]15 [/SUP]God also said to Moses, “Say this to the people of Israel, ‘The Lord, the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you.’ This is my name forever, and thus I am to be remembered throughout all generations." Ex. 3:13-15
"Your father Abraham rejoiced that he would see my day. He saw it and was glad.” [SUP]57 [/SUP]So the Jews said to him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and have you seen Abraham?” [SUP]58 [/SUP]Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.” [SUP]59 [/SUP]So they picked up stones to throw at him, but Jesus hid himself and went out of the temple." John 8:56-59
Read your Bible! Stop worrying about some formula for baptism and instead seek Jesus, who is the revelation of God, and the great "I am"!