Rejecting Homosexuality in all its Expressions Without Hurting or Judging Others is Vital to Being a Christian in Good Standing
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I was going with a funny comeback about crocodiles.
As for the judgment observation, too many Christians imagine we are never to judge people. But that simply is not true. We judge people for their sins when we feel we need to tell them about Jesus.
One example is when someone offers an act of kindness to a person whom they do not know is Christian and that Christian responds with a thank you, and then offers them a tract or tiny new testament. Thinking them in need of this just due to that act of kindness.
We're to judge righteously, not based on outward appearances. God's righteousness says homosexuality is an immoral sin and such people shall not see the kingdom of Heaven.
Are we to let , per the topic, homosexuals perish in their sin as we think we must not judge and therein stay quiet? No.
As for the judgment observation, too many Christians imagine we are never to judge people. But that simply is not true. We judge people for their sins when we feel we need to tell them about Jesus.
One example is when someone offers an act of kindness to a person whom they do not know is Christian and that Christian responds with a thank you, and then offers them a tract or tiny new testament. Thinking them in need of this just due to that act of kindness.
We're to judge righteously, not based on outward appearances. God's righteousness says homosexuality is an immoral sin and such people shall not see the kingdom of Heaven.
Are we to let , per the topic, homosexuals perish in their sin as we think we must not judge and therein stay quiet? No.
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I do have compassion for LGBT people, yes. Believe me, I used to be like most of you about homosexuals (certain that they would go to hell, laughed if two guys were holding hands, etc.). I know several LGBT including a Gospel singer, and know an entire family who left the church because the son is gay. I think making a call on anyone's afterlife including LGBT people is psychologically and emotionally damaging and may not even be true for that individual. We have no idea who is going to be in heaven or hell. God knows our inner thoughts and final moments of our lives and makes a judgement. Yes, I know what the Bible says about homosexuality. Anyone interested in the afterlife of homosexuals should be pointing them to Jesus, instead of brandishing fire and brimstone verses here and there. Anyway, that is all I have to say on this issue and so will not be commenting further on this thread.
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That's fine.
You presume people are emotionally damaging LGBTQTS people because we recognize God taken at His word calls the unrepentant, anyone who is unrepentant, a sinner and tells us they face a certain fate. God knows the heart, this is true. However, people who parade with pride in their sin and condemn those who hold to the scriptures that call them to repent, are damaging themselves beyond this life.
If one wishes to think none of that applies and only God knows the fate of that particular sinner group, then they are saying the scriptures that tell us all things about this life and the next are not to be trusted, or God is not to be taken at His word.
I'd advise one to be careful who they make excuses for when they believe a certain community of people are above the words of God that call all to repentance.
Sure, it may be PC, and one may avoid the moniker, Homophobe, but in the end when they, who called themselves Christian, stand before God and account of their works in His name, those avoidance measures will pale to the question that stands with that particular Christian there before God; why did you worry so much about offending the damned among the unrepentant LGBTQTS, when you could have loved them enough to show them the way home?
And that will be a final question and answer. No avoidance possible.
If you love people call sin a sin. Hell for eternity, or removal from God's presence, whatever one believes about the fate of the unrepentant, is definitely not PC. God or the world. Choose. It takes guts to be a Christian and stand by the word.
You presume people are emotionally damaging LGBTQTS people because we recognize God taken at His word calls the unrepentant, anyone who is unrepentant, a sinner and tells us they face a certain fate. God knows the heart, this is true. However, people who parade with pride in their sin and condemn those who hold to the scriptures that call them to repent, are damaging themselves beyond this life.
If one wishes to think none of that applies and only God knows the fate of that particular sinner group, then they are saying the scriptures that tell us all things about this life and the next are not to be trusted, or God is not to be taken at His word.
I'd advise one to be careful who they make excuses for when they believe a certain community of people are above the words of God that call all to repentance.
Sure, it may be PC, and one may avoid the moniker, Homophobe, but in the end when they, who called themselves Christian, stand before God and account of their works in His name, those avoidance measures will pale to the question that stands with that particular Christian there before God; why did you worry so much about offending the damned among the unrepentant LGBTQTS, when you could have loved them enough to show them the way home?
And that will be a final question and answer. No avoidance possible.
If you love people call sin a sin. Hell for eternity, or removal from God's presence, whatever one believes about the fate of the unrepentant, is definitely not PC. God or the world. Choose. It takes guts to be a Christian and stand by the word.
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Indeed. The Book of Ephesians chapter 5:11 Do not participate in the unfruitful deeds of darkness, but instead even expose them.
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I think that first part of your observation will be between you and God.
What LGBTQTS apologists don't realize is, there is no such thing as living a Christian faithful life as a LGBTQTS, with or without a sexually active partner.
That truth is not villifying anyone. It is rather speaking the truth as pertains to what God tells us. And it isn't legalistic to recognize sin is sin. No one has a special privilege that makes them immune to that fact.
What LGBTQTS apologists don't realize is, there is no such thing as living a Christian faithful life as a LGBTQTS, with or without a sexually active partner.
That truth is not villifying anyone. It is rather speaking the truth as pertains to what God tells us. And it isn't legalistic to recognize sin is sin. No one has a special privilege that makes them immune to that fact.
I'm not a homosexual, and am attracted to women. But, your statement that all who are effected by identity issues will not see heaven is considered a judgemental offense in itself. The Lord said to leave judgment to Him, because we as people are not able to see the whole picture. There are many aspects of this issue. A person must have a knowing and willing rebellion to fall short of heaven. And knowingly resist the Light of Christ, or stay in the shadows?
Isn't sexuality without a partner a form of homosexuality? So by your definition, no one would get to heaven if they ever touched themselves. Or what if someone was raised by the world's derogatory description of a "dyke" who wore dresses and had a feminine hair style, who was married to a transvestite? If they didn't understand what a traditional relationship was, then how could they be judged by the same definition? The same Bible says that greater accountability is expected from those who have a clearer picture of what is traditional, giving greater mercy to kind and loving people, who, as John said, know God's love in our hearts.
There are hundreds of different descriptions of sexual identity, and reasons why we are all the way we are. That's why the New Covenant is greater than all sins, "for all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.". And why only God can judge, who knows the anguish of human suffering.
Heaven is not about "one size fits all," or one verse covers all people, so your one verse can not condemn all who suffer from all identity issues.
Let God be the judge. He's better at it.
Isn't sexuality without a partner a form of homosexuality? So by your definition, no one would get to heaven if they ever touched themselves. Or what if someone was raised by the world's derogatory description of a "dyke" who wore dresses and had a feminine hair style, who was married to a transvestite? If they didn't understand what a traditional relationship was, then how could they be judged by the same definition? The same Bible says that greater accountability is expected from those who have a clearer picture of what is traditional, giving greater mercy to kind and loving people, who, as John said, know God's love in our hearts.
There are hundreds of different descriptions of sexual identity, and reasons why we are all the way we are. That's why the New Covenant is greater than all sins, "for all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.". And why only God can judge, who knows the anguish of human suffering.
Heaven is not about "one size fits all," or one verse covers all people, so your one verse can not condemn all who suffer from all identity issues.
Let God be the judge. He's better at it.
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Might I suggest that we attempt to get the crocodile drunk before we try to dunk it?
We should also make it clear that we are certified Baptist
We should also make it clear that we are certified Baptist
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If we think this issue is benign as pertains to the church, we may wish to reconsider. The articles below are an example of where the LGBTQTS agenda is leading the church. We will regret ignoring this I think.
The Iowa man's sentence in particular is concerning. His was an expression of free speech as much as the SCOTUS decision of years ago declared burning the American flag is that. Why then would this man be sentenced to prison for burning a flag that is an emblem of a movement with an agenda?
The Iowa man's sentence in particular is concerning. His was an expression of free speech as much as the SCOTUS decision of years ago declared burning the American flag is that. Why then would this man be sentenced to prison for burning a flag that is an emblem of a movement with an agenda?
- New Church of England Archbishop Believes Christian Views on Sexuality Should Be Adapted 'To Fit Culture'
- Dragging Our Kids into It: The Sexualization of Children Has Begun
- Transgender Worker Sues Nike for $1.1M over Use of Wrong Pronouns
- Another Texas Church Votes to Leave the UMC over LGBT Debate
- Iowa Man Sentenced to 16 Years in Prison for Burning Church's LGBT Pride Flag
- A Dallas United Methodist Church Will End 2019 Affirming All Marriage Vows
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