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In Revelation 13:18 what did John really see;
We have been commonly been told the number of the beast being 666, but is this what John really saw ???
In the original Greek text we have John seeing the following symbolism for Chi Xi Stigma;
John in the previous verses 16 and 17 says where this mark is placed and that it is his name, and we have for the placing of his mark the Greek words Charagma and Dexios.
a. a stamp, an imprinted mark: of the mark stamped on the forehead or the right hand as the badge of the followers of Antichrist, Revelation 13:16;Revelation 14:9, 11; Revelation 15:2 Rec.; (πυρός, the mark branded upon horses, Anacreon () 26 (55), 2).
b. thing carved, sculpture, graven work: of idolatrous images, Acts 17:29. (In various other senses in Greek writings from Sophocles down.)
Definition
the right hand or side
Now we have the original meanings for these words that show it can be a mark on the forehead and/or the right hand or arm. Now lets look at Chi Xi Stigma side by side with the headbands and armbands they where, and see if you see the similarities;
This is worn by those who follow the Islamic system on their heads and right arms...........
We have been commonly been told the number of the beast being 666, but is this what John really saw ???
In the original Greek text we have John seeing the following symbolism for Chi Xi Stigma;
John in the previous verses 16 and 17 says where this mark is placed and that it is his name, and we have for the placing of his mark the Greek words Charagma and Dexios.
Charagma:
Original Word: χάραγμα, ατος, τόa. a stamp, an imprinted mark: of the mark stamped on the forehead or the right hand as the badge of the followers of Antichrist, Revelation 13:16;Revelation 14:9, 11; Revelation 15:2 Rec.; (πυρός, the mark branded upon horses, Anacreon () 26 (55), 2).
b. thing carved, sculpture, graven work: of idolatrous images, Acts 17:29. (In various other senses in Greek writings from Sophocles down.)
Dexios:
Original Word: δεξιός, ά, όνDefinition
the right hand or side
Now we have the original meanings for these words that show it can be a mark on the forehead and/or the right hand or arm. Now lets look at Chi Xi Stigma side by side with the headbands and armbands they where, and see if you see the similarities;
This is worn by those who follow the Islamic system on their heads and right arms...........
Hi folks. Lots of disagreement here. That is normal in the body of Christ, but not of the Lord. We are all subject to the influence of our youth. You must love the truth with your whole heart to find it. It cannot be a pass time. You must cast down every high thought and imagination that rises up against the word and bring every thought into captivity to Christ.
Now to understand revelation you must have the keys. I will offer a key here that I received many years ago that unlocked many scriptures for me. You be the judge.
I am sure you have all heard the idea that the earth is hollow like a basket ball in your past. on't hang up on me. If you love the truth then you must prove this right or wrong, because in fat you don't and can't know either way except by choice. Choice is not proof at all.
What I have learned I have explained on my blogspot at tkicbs.blogspot.ca
In a nut shell the earth is like a basket ball with a slightly smaller basket ball inside of it. The outer ball represents the crust we live on and the inner surface of the inner ball represents a crust where the beast of Rev 9 lives and reigns supreme as we speak. At the very center of the earth, about 3000 miles from the inner surface is a star much like our sun that shines down on the inner surface providing light and energy to support plant life and animal life and people. These people are the locust of Joel 1 and Revelation 9.
The weight of the inner crust pushes against the weight of the outer crust and puts lava, oil, water and gas that is between the crusts under immense pressure. This is why we have volcanoes etc...
Now if this is true then it changes what everyone has ever taught concerning the Revelation chapter 9 beast. Notice in Revelation 9 how the locust sting those who have taken the mark of the beast. This should tell you that this is not the same beast but a new one. He is only here for the last 5 months of the final 7 years. The beast with 10 horns and 7 heads is here now but only reigns over Jerusalem for the final 42 months.
Now look at Isaiah 13:9-13 if you will. It speaks of the day of the Lord. He says he will remove the earth out of it's place on the great day. How would he move the earth?
Now read Revelation 8 to understand this. Take it literally. A star falls from the sky. It looks like a mountain burning with fire with the fiery tail following it. It lands in the sea. This is important because the impact will be enough to move the planet while the ocean impact cushions the blow so it does not destroy the earth. The fact that it destroys 1/3 of the fish and 1/3 of the ships should tell you that this is a literal star, or asteroid in today's terms.
While studying prophecy you can look up every case where it mentions the sun being darkened and the moon turning to blood and other variations of this and place them on a timeline together as one and the same event. Anything written in the context before the asteroid should be before the asteroid on your timeline and anything after should follow the asteroid.
For example Joel 2 speaks of deliverance for anyone who calls on the name of the Lord after the asteroid. Matthew 24:19 describes the asteroid after the great tribulation that is only in Judea by the way. Notice the rapture by the angels is after the asteroid. Don't worry, I am sure there is sufficient proof for 2 raptures. The child and the bride. But that is a whole other subject.
Now what do you suppose would happen to the star at the core of a hollow earth if you hit the outside hard enough to move the planet? It would be dislodged and crash into the inner surface putting the light out in the beast's kingdom.
Now look at Revelation 8:12. Here we find the sun, moon and stars are smitten by 1/3 causing the day, night and light to be shortened by 1/3. If he hits the earth with a star and knocks it spinning faster by 1/3 each of these elements will be diminished equally by 1/3.
Now I believe there is a hole leading into the earth at the North Pole that opens periodically at low tides in the summer months. If you spin the earth faster by 1/3 the centrifugal force inside the earth will increased and the water at the poles will be drawn to the equator. By doing this you will open the hole allowing the smoke from the fire that would b caused by the falling star inside to come out and block out the sun out here. At the same time the beast from the pit will have no choice but to come out because his world is put into utter darkness. The timing is perfect for the final 5 months.
Now when you read the verse in Rev 17 about the 7 kings. 5 have fallen, one is and one is yet to come and the 8th is of the 7, and will go into perdition, it will make sense for you.
In 87 AD when John received the Revelation 5 kings had already fallen, one still reigned and one was yet to come. This is either the little horn or the Anti Christ or the prince of the covenant. These are 3 different people and it is hard to say which one is talked about here. The 8th king, which is the beast who ascends from the pit, is one of the 7 kings mentioned.
Now this is hard to accept I know but this king would now be about 2000 years old for this to be a true interpretation. Remember that Adam and the first few generations lived to be just under 1000 years old. On my blogspot I explain how the ozone was much thicker back then and how it stretched to be much much thinner causing the changes in the atmosphere that allowed for this effect. So, if man could live to be 1000 years old under the old canopy, is it possible that one living inside a hollow earth under a totally different atmosphere might live 200 or more years? If you can accept this then you will understand these scriptures much better now.
I have much more to say but I will see who can see what I have explained so far.
Now to understand revelation you must have the keys. I will offer a key here that I received many years ago that unlocked many scriptures for me. You be the judge.
I am sure you have all heard the idea that the earth is hollow like a basket ball in your past. on't hang up on me. If you love the truth then you must prove this right or wrong, because in fat you don't and can't know either way except by choice. Choice is not proof at all.
What I have learned I have explained on my blogspot at tkicbs.blogspot.ca
In a nut shell the earth is like a basket ball with a slightly smaller basket ball inside of it. The outer ball represents the crust we live on and the inner surface of the inner ball represents a crust where the beast of Rev 9 lives and reigns supreme as we speak. At the very center of the earth, about 3000 miles from the inner surface is a star much like our sun that shines down on the inner surface providing light and energy to support plant life and animal life and people. These people are the locust of Joel 1 and Revelation 9.
The weight of the inner crust pushes against the weight of the outer crust and puts lava, oil, water and gas that is between the crusts under immense pressure. This is why we have volcanoes etc...
Now if this is true then it changes what everyone has ever taught concerning the Revelation chapter 9 beast. Notice in Revelation 9 how the locust sting those who have taken the mark of the beast. This should tell you that this is not the same beast but a new one. He is only here for the last 5 months of the final 7 years. The beast with 10 horns and 7 heads is here now but only reigns over Jerusalem for the final 42 months.
Now look at Isaiah 13:9-13 if you will. It speaks of the day of the Lord. He says he will remove the earth out of it's place on the great day. How would he move the earth?
Now read Revelation 8 to understand this. Take it literally. A star falls from the sky. It looks like a mountain burning with fire with the fiery tail following it. It lands in the sea. This is important because the impact will be enough to move the planet while the ocean impact cushions the blow so it does not destroy the earth. The fact that it destroys 1/3 of the fish and 1/3 of the ships should tell you that this is a literal star, or asteroid in today's terms.
While studying prophecy you can look up every case where it mentions the sun being darkened and the moon turning to blood and other variations of this and place them on a timeline together as one and the same event. Anything written in the context before the asteroid should be before the asteroid on your timeline and anything after should follow the asteroid.
For example Joel 2 speaks of deliverance for anyone who calls on the name of the Lord after the asteroid. Matthew 24:19 describes the asteroid after the great tribulation that is only in Judea by the way. Notice the rapture by the angels is after the asteroid. Don't worry, I am sure there is sufficient proof for 2 raptures. The child and the bride. But that is a whole other subject.
Now what do you suppose would happen to the star at the core of a hollow earth if you hit the outside hard enough to move the planet? It would be dislodged and crash into the inner surface putting the light out in the beast's kingdom.
Now look at Revelation 8:12. Here we find the sun, moon and stars are smitten by 1/3 causing the day, night and light to be shortened by 1/3. If he hits the earth with a star and knocks it spinning faster by 1/3 each of these elements will be diminished equally by 1/3.
Now I believe there is a hole leading into the earth at the North Pole that opens periodically at low tides in the summer months. If you spin the earth faster by 1/3 the centrifugal force inside the earth will increased and the water at the poles will be drawn to the equator. By doing this you will open the hole allowing the smoke from the fire that would b caused by the falling star inside to come out and block out the sun out here. At the same time the beast from the pit will have no choice but to come out because his world is put into utter darkness. The timing is perfect for the final 5 months.
Now when you read the verse in Rev 17 about the 7 kings. 5 have fallen, one is and one is yet to come and the 8th is of the 7, and will go into perdition, it will make sense for you.
In 87 AD when John received the Revelation 5 kings had already fallen, one still reigned and one was yet to come. This is either the little horn or the Anti Christ or the prince of the covenant. These are 3 different people and it is hard to say which one is talked about here. The 8th king, which is the beast who ascends from the pit, is one of the 7 kings mentioned.
Now this is hard to accept I know but this king would now be about 2000 years old for this to be a true interpretation. Remember that Adam and the first few generations lived to be just under 1000 years old. On my blogspot I explain how the ozone was much thicker back then and how it stretched to be much much thinner causing the changes in the atmosphere that allowed for this effect. So, if man could live to be 1000 years old under the old canopy, is it possible that one living inside a hollow earth under a totally different atmosphere might live 200 or more years? If you can accept this then you will understand these scriptures much better now.
I have much more to say but I will see who can see what I have explained so far.
F
I like revelation, when God shows you something, the book of revelation is a prime example of something that we as believers get to participate in, the revelatory nature of God and reality, and that we are slowly being unveiled and moving to the future. Also its nice when God tells you about the future and helps you make decisions to change or to make it happen 
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In Revelation 13:18 what did John really see;
We have been commonly been told the number of the beast being 666, but is this what John really saw ???
In the original Greek text we have John seeing the following symbolism for Chi Xi Stigma;
We have been commonly been told the number of the beast being 666, but is this what John really saw ???
In the original Greek text we have John seeing the following symbolism for Chi Xi Stigma;
To say that is what "John is seeing" requires proof. If you can't prove it, you're reading something into the bible that isn't there.
“What you see, write in a book and send it to the seven churches which are in Asia: to Ephesus, to Smyrna, to Pergamos, to Thyatira, to Sardis, to Philadelphia, and to Laodicea.”
Did John see the Greek numbers for 6-6-6 or did he see the Arabic words for "In the Name of Allah?" Can we tell from the above? I can't. However, this "Mark" is not a literal mark I don't believe. Compare to the "seal" of those who are God's. Do these people literally get a seal on their heads? I think not.
“Do not harm the earth, the sea, or the trees till we have sealed the servants of our God on their foreheads.
What are the three "things" that we are told above are not to be harmed until God's servants are "sealed?"
SEA - The area of the Leopard, Lion, Bear nations
EARTH - The known world in John's day
TREES - Uncertain Biblical symbol
Every place in the OT which discusses the time period prior to the Day of the Lord deals with Israel's enemies rising up against her and nearly destroying her which would happen if not for divine intervention. Those enemies are Muslim and by extension Islamic. So whether or not the above characters are Greek numbers or the Arabic phrase, "In the Name of Allah" is of little consequence in determining who Mystery Babylon is.
The word "Beast" clearly deals with the Northern Islamic region of the Lion, Leopard, Bear AKA area of Turkey, Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Kuwait and Iran. This "SEA" region is almost 100% ISLAMIC. To those who think people can't buy or sell without this 666 stamped into their right hand or forehead and to those who think its a bio or micro chip are completely fooling themselves. If we look at the below passage, we see there are one of three things these people can have to be able to conduct trade.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
Option 1) Mark of the Beast (ALLAH)
Option 2) Name of the Beast (ALLAH)
Option 3) Number of the Beast (ALLAH)
The Greek word used for number is Arithmos (706) = number, reckon up
The Greek word used for name is Onoma (3686) = name, authority, character; called
If we study John's use of the word, "name" in Revelation we see it commonly used to refer to identifiable groups, either good or bad. Here are some examples.
GOOD:
Rev 2:17 ...And I will give him a white stone, and on the stone a new name written which no one knows except him who receives it.”’
Rev 3:4...You have a few names even in Sardis who have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with Me in white, for they are worthy.
Rev 3:12...I will write on him the name of My God and the name of the city of My God, the New Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from My God. And I will write on him My new name.
Rev 14:1 ...Then I looked, and behold, a Lamb standing on Mount Zion, and with Him one hundred and forty-four thousand, having His Father’s name written on their foreheads.
Rev 19:12 His eyes were like a flame of fire, and on His head were many crowns. He had a name written that no one knew except Himself.
BAD:
Rev 3:1 ...“I know your works, that you have a name that you are alive, but you are dead.
Rev 6:8 ...So I looked, and behold, a pale horse. And the name of him who sat on it was Death, and Hades followed with him.
Rev 13:1 ...And I saw a beast rising up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and on his horns ten crowns, and on his heads a blasphemous name.
Rev 14:11 ...And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever; and they have no rest day or night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.”
Mark of his name??? As Kenneth pointed out, "Mark" is Charagma which can mean "badge of servitude." If we look other places where the word "mark" is used we see it is often used to identify or set apart someone.
Gen 4:15 ...And the Lord said to him, “Therefore, whoever kills Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold.” And the Lord set a mark on Cain, lest anyone finding him should kill him.
Job 10:14 If I sin, then You mark me, And will not acquit me of my iniquity.
Ezek 9:4 ...and the Lord said to him, “Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and put a mark on the foreheads of the men who sigh and cry over all the abominations that are done within it.”
Ezek 9:6 ... Utterly slay old and young men, maidens and little children and women; but do not come near anyone on whom is the mark;
Clearly what John is trying to tell us is that there is a bad group of those following the Beast (ALLAH) who is marked with Allah's name. Just as God has "Marked" his children for eternal life, Satan's children (followers) are marked for Hades and Death.
"Forehead" is sometimes used to describe "knowledge, belief, personality and character."
Exo 28:38 ...So it shall be on Aaron’s forehead, that Aaron may bear the iniquity of the holy things which the children of Israel hallow in all their holy gifts; and it shall always be on his forehead, that they may be accepted before the Lord.
Jer 3:3 ...Therefore the showers have been withheld, And there has been no latter rain. You have had a harlot’s forehead; You refuse to be ashamed.
"Right hand" is often an expression of servitude, works as in action, doing something, strength, or submission or being anointed or being "with an entity of higher power".
Psm 16:11... You will show me the path of life; In Your presence is fullness of joy; At Your right hand are pleasures forevermore.
18:35 ...You have also given me the shield of Your salvation; Your right hand has held me up, Your gentleness has made me great.
21:8 ...Your hand will find all Your enemies; Your right hand will find those who hate You.
110:1 ...The Lord said to my Lord, “Sit at My right hand, Till I make Your enemies Your footstool.”
144:8 ...Whose mouth speaks lying words, And whose right hand is a right hand of falsehood.
Ecc 10:2 ...A wise man’s heart is at his right hand, But a fool’s heart at his left.
Mat 5:30 ...And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and cast it from you;
By invoking "right hand" John is telling us these people who follow the Beast (ALLAH) are serving him and worshiping him and acting on behalf of their false god. The use of "right hand" for those who understand and have read the Bible is a powerful term with a strong meaning. It is NOT a literal "right hand" in most cases.
John is telling us these People will be marked with the knowledge and badge of servitude of the False One to do his bidding and to follow him even to Hades.
Rev 14 ...“If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives his mark on his forehead or on his hand, [SUP]10 [/SUP]he himself shall also drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out full strength into the cup of His indignation. He shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb.
Will everyone join me in prayer for those who worship Allah? If they do not turn from their ways and repent, the above verse spells out their fate.
Did John see the Greek numbers for 6-6-6 or did he see the Arabic words for "In the Name of Allah?" Can we tell from the above? I can't. However, this "Mark" is not a literal mark I don't believe. Compare to the "seal" of those who are God's. Do these people literally get a seal on their heads? I think not.
“Do not harm the earth, the sea, or the trees till we have sealed the servants of our God on their foreheads.
What are the three "things" that we are told above are not to be harmed until God's servants are "sealed?"
SEA - The area of the Leopard, Lion, Bear nations
EARTH - The known world in John's day
TREES - Uncertain Biblical symbol
Every place in the OT which discusses the time period prior to the Day of the Lord deals with Israel's enemies rising up against her and nearly destroying her which would happen if not for divine intervention. Those enemies are Muslim and by extension Islamic. So whether or not the above characters are Greek numbers or the Arabic phrase, "In the Name of Allah" is of little consequence in determining who Mystery Babylon is.
The word "Beast" clearly deals with the Northern Islamic region of the Lion, Leopard, Bear AKA area of Turkey, Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Kuwait and Iran. This "SEA" region is almost 100% ISLAMIC. To those who think people can't buy or sell without this 666 stamped into their right hand or forehead and to those who think its a bio or micro chip are completely fooling themselves. If we look at the below passage, we see there are one of three things these people can have to be able to conduct trade.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
Option 1) Mark of the Beast (ALLAH)
Option 2) Name of the Beast (ALLAH)
Option 3) Number of the Beast (ALLAH)
The Greek word used for number is Arithmos (706) = number, reckon up
The Greek word used for name is Onoma (3686) = name, authority, character; called
If we study John's use of the word, "name" in Revelation we see it commonly used to refer to identifiable groups, either good or bad. Here are some examples.
GOOD:
Rev 2:17 ...And I will give him a white stone, and on the stone a new name written which no one knows except him who receives it.”’
Rev 3:4...You have a few names even in Sardis who have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with Me in white, for they are worthy.
Rev 3:12...I will write on him the name of My God and the name of the city of My God, the New Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from My God. And I will write on him My new name.
Rev 14:1 ...Then I looked, and behold, a Lamb standing on Mount Zion, and with Him one hundred and forty-four thousand, having His Father’s name written on their foreheads.
Rev 19:12 His eyes were like a flame of fire, and on His head were many crowns. He had a name written that no one knew except Himself.
BAD:
Rev 3:1 ...“I know your works, that you have a name that you are alive, but you are dead.
Rev 6:8 ...So I looked, and behold, a pale horse. And the name of him who sat on it was Death, and Hades followed with him.
Rev 13:1 ...And I saw a beast rising up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and on his horns ten crowns, and on his heads a blasphemous name.
Rev 14:11 ...And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever; and they have no rest day or night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.”
Mark of his name??? As Kenneth pointed out, "Mark" is Charagma which can mean "badge of servitude." If we look other places where the word "mark" is used we see it is often used to identify or set apart someone.
Gen 4:15 ...And the Lord said to him, “Therefore, whoever kills Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold.” And the Lord set a mark on Cain, lest anyone finding him should kill him.
Job 10:14 If I sin, then You mark me, And will not acquit me of my iniquity.
Ezek 9:4 ...and the Lord said to him, “Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and put a mark on the foreheads of the men who sigh and cry over all the abominations that are done within it.”
Ezek 9:6 ... Utterly slay old and young men, maidens and little children and women; but do not come near anyone on whom is the mark;
Clearly what John is trying to tell us is that there is a bad group of those following the Beast (ALLAH) who is marked with Allah's name. Just as God has "Marked" his children for eternal life, Satan's children (followers) are marked for Hades and Death.
"Forehead" is sometimes used to describe "knowledge, belief, personality and character."
Exo 28:38 ...So it shall be on Aaron’s forehead, that Aaron may bear the iniquity of the holy things which the children of Israel hallow in all their holy gifts; and it shall always be on his forehead, that they may be accepted before the Lord.
Jer 3:3 ...Therefore the showers have been withheld, And there has been no latter rain. You have had a harlot’s forehead; You refuse to be ashamed.
"Right hand" is often an expression of servitude, works as in action, doing something, strength, or submission or being anointed or being "with an entity of higher power".
Psm 16:11... You will show me the path of life; In Your presence is fullness of joy; At Your right hand are pleasures forevermore.
18:35 ...You have also given me the shield of Your salvation; Your right hand has held me up, Your gentleness has made me great.
21:8 ...Your hand will find all Your enemies; Your right hand will find those who hate You.
110:1 ...The Lord said to my Lord, “Sit at My right hand, Till I make Your enemies Your footstool.”
144:8 ...Whose mouth speaks lying words, And whose right hand is a right hand of falsehood.
Ecc 10:2 ...A wise man’s heart is at his right hand, But a fool’s heart at his left.
Mat 5:30 ...And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and cast it from you;
By invoking "right hand" John is telling us these people who follow the Beast (ALLAH) are serving him and worshiping him and acting on behalf of their false god. The use of "right hand" for those who understand and have read the Bible is a powerful term with a strong meaning. It is NOT a literal "right hand" in most cases.
John is telling us these People will be marked with the knowledge and badge of servitude of the False One to do his bidding and to follow him even to Hades.
Rev 14 ...“If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives his mark on his forehead or on his hand, [SUP]10 [/SUP]he himself shall also drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out full strength into the cup of His indignation. He shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb.
Will everyone join me in prayer for those who worship Allah? If they do not turn from their ways and repent, the above verse spells out their fate.
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Heres RIGHT HANDS of fellowship
Gal 2:9 And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.
Theres another one thats GOOD
There is freindship with the world, that would be BAD but here is LIE IN MY RIGHT HAND
Isaiah 44:20 He feedeth on ashes: a deceived heart hath turned him aside, that he cannot deliver his soul, nor say,Is there not a lie in my right hand?
Gal 2:9 And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.
Theres another one thats GOOD
There is freindship with the world, that would be BAD but here is LIE IN MY RIGHT HAND
Isaiah 44:20 He feedeth on ashes: a deceived heart hath turned him aside, that he cannot deliver his soul, nor say,Is there not a lie in my right hand?