Revelations 2:9

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Drett

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Hi


I was wondering who are the false Jews this verse applies to ?


I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
Revelations 2:9

 

Drett

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FYI, In the bible it is cross referenced to this verse.


Listen, my beloved brothers, has not God chosen those who are poor in the world to be(B)rich in faith and heirs of (C)the kingdom, (D)which he has promised to those who love him.
James 2:5

I guess the bankers better take heed of this. ;)
 

crossnote

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FYI, In the bible it is cross referenced to this verse.


Listen, my beloved brothers, has not God chosen those who are poor in the world to be(B)rich in faith and heirs of (C)the kingdom, (D)which he has promised to those who love him.
James 2:5

I guess the bankers better take heed of this. ;)
Good thing cross references are not divinely inspired!

I would have cross referenced with...

John 8:31-44 Jesus therefore said to those Jews that had believed him, If ye abide in my word, then are ye truly my disciples;and ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
They answered unto him, We are Abraham's seed, and have never yet been in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?
Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Every one that committeth sin is the bondservant of sin.
And the bondservant abideth not in the house for ever: the son abideth for ever.
If therefore the Son shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.
I know that ye are Abraham's seed: yet ye seek to kill me, because my word hath not free course in you.
I speak the things which I have seen with my Father: and ye also do the things which ye heard from your father.
They answered and said unto him, Our father is Abraham. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham.
But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I heard from God: this did not Abraham.
Ye do the works of your father. They said unto him, We were not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.
Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I came forth and am come from God; for neither have I come of myself, but he sent me.
Why do ye not understand my speech? Even because ye cannot hear my word.
Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father it is your will to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and standeth not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father thereof.
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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possibly this is referring to an actual synagogue of paganized jews in the ancient city of smyrna...
 
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Physical "jews" are those who claim to have the truth of God but they talk like a dragon. They are of no particular race but according to the flesh, these are who cultures and societies look up to religiously.
 
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nathan3

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I'm putting together a post for you Drett that will give you a lot of scripture to document who this is, just as Christ said there. I may post it elsewhere . Then I'll give you a link.
 
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There are Jews that are the seed of Israel/Jacob.
Not all do the will of God - that is, to accept his Son, the man Jesus Christ who God has made our High Priest.
1Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,
Those who do not recognise Jesus as High Priest who are of the children of Israel/Jacob are of the synagogue of satan.
Only because satan in NOT some wicked fallen angel but it means adversary - the thing against God - that is sin, through which death comes.

They are against God because they do not accept His son Jesus - they are of the synagogue against God.

There will come a time when the remnant of Israel will turn to God - as it has always done through the Bible.
God's covenant was based upon conditions - but on conditions that if reversed from bad to good would be upheld.
That is WHY I think the OT is important as far too many people are told nowadays to read the NT as the OT is not important. I think those who teach this are in for a surprise...

To ignore the OT is to remove the Word of God from the gospel.
What do you think Jesus taught?
What do you think the Apostles taught?
What do you think disciples taught until the Bible was put together?

Jesus taught the good news of the Kingdom of God - and used the OT to show it.
The Apostles taught the good news of the Kingdom of God - and used the OT to show it. And they taught how Jesus was the way to get to the Kingdom.
All disciples of Christ until the Bible was put together taught the good news of the Kingdom of God - and used the OT to show it. And they taught how Jesus was the way to get to the Kingdom.

And now we have fools that claim to be followers of Christ saying idiot stuff like start your reading at Matthew or even John.
Ridiculous. Because Jesus didn't teach that way. Or Matthew or John.

They expected people to read the OT to see how and why Jesus could be the Son of God and through him let us live in the Kingdom of God.
 
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Laodicea

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Romans 2:28-29 KJV
(28) For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
(29) But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

Some claim to follow God they even go to church but are not inwardly followers of God.
 
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Most likely Esau/Edomites, King Herod and the Idumeans spoke very fluent Hebrew and considered themselves Jews. But God already know the nature of Esau, most violent and Godless man to every touch earth.
 

Drett

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Most likely Esau/Edomites, King Herod and the Idumeans spoke very fluent Hebrew and considered themselves Jews. But God already know the nature of Esau, most violent and Godless man to every touch earth.
So you think these verses apply to the past ? It is not prophecy.
 
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nathan3

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nathan3

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Thanks Nathan. I'll add you as a contact ... I am hoping it is easy to doo :)
its easy. just read the fine print to the left in my profile under my profile pic. u should see it there somewhere