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[video=youtube;fwVUr2_6tW8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwVUr2_6tW8[/video]

Published on Feb 12, 2013
New York Times bestselling author Rob Bell, whom the The New Yorker describes as "one of the most influential Christian leaders in the county," does for the concept of God what he did for heaven and hell in his book Love Wins: He shows how traditional ideas have grown stale and dysfunctional and how to return vitality and vibrancy to lives of faith today.

What We Talk About When We Talk About God
By Rob Bell









 
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zone said:
[video=youtube;fwVUr2_6tW8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwVUr2_6tW8[/video]

Published on Feb 12, 2013
New York Times bestselling author Rob Bell, whom the The New Yorker describes as "one of the most influential Christian leaders in the county," does for the concept of God what he did for heaven and hell in his book Love Wins: He shows how traditional ideas have grown stale and dysfunctional and how to return vitality and vibrancy to lives of faith today.

What We Talk About When We Talk About God
By Rob Bell









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Either it was so good that it made you bedazzled and faint or it floored you with its ridiculousness. The world shall never know.....no really, how many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie lollipop?
 
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Hit it one more time and see what happens.

 
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Rob Bells NOOMA shorts have some value but you have to be more discerning with his book and when he talks about anything NT-related. The man doesn't know the Atonement from a bar of soap.

Abiding, yes, we don't want to summon Jadis, the Queen of Charn, from her sleep (The Magician's Nephew - C.S. Lewis).
 
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Rob Bell is Peter Pan.
anybody who follows him is a silly child.
he's got nada.

he's an heretic.
 
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Rob Bell is Peter Pan.
anybody who follows him is a silly child.
he's got nada.

he's an heretic.
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hmmmm. Okay.....that explains it

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cfultz3 said:
hmmmm. Okay.....that explains it

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i gather you didn't listen to his book sales teaser?
did he make any sense to you?
anything Biblical there?
is there anything scriptural in that video?

he's also a universalist.

 
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Zone, I never liked Peter Pan. He annoyed me.
 
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i gather you didn't listen to his book sales teaser?
did he make any sense to you?
anything Biblical there?
is there anything scriptural in that video?

he's also a universalist.
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Yes, at first, I watched it as a sales video and not as a testimony video. Bringing up that he is an universalist allows me to see it with the same lens as you. Now I see what you see, thanks for explaining.
 
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i gather you didn't listen to his book sales teaser?
did he make any sense to you?
anything Biblical there?
is there anything scriptural in that video?

he's also a universalist.

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It's a shame that these universalist can't rightly divide the word of God when it comes to eternal separation from God in the after life for those who don't want God in their life. I just learned Peter Hiett is in the same camp, too bad, I really like some of his preaching.

It doesn't get any clearer then this:
Matthew 25:31-46
[SUP]31 [/SUP]“When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the holy[SUP][c][/SUP] angels with Him, then He will sit on the throne of His glory. [SUP]32 [/SUP]All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate them one from another, as a shepherd divides his sheep from the goats. [SUP]33 [/SUP]And He will set the sheep on His right hand, but the goats on the left. [SUP]34 [/SUP]Then the King will say to those on His right hand, ‘Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: [SUP]35 [/SUP]for I was hungry and you gave Me food; I was thirsty and you gave Me drink; I was a stranger and you took Me in; [SUP]36 [/SUP]I was naked and you clothed Me; I was sick and you visited Me; I was in prison and you came to Me.’
[SUP]37 [/SUP]“Then the righteous will answer Him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry and feed You, or thirsty and give You drink? [SUP]38 [/SUP]When did we see You a stranger and take You in, or naked and clotheYou? [SUP]39 [/SUP]Or when did we see You sick, or in prison, and come to You?’ [SUP]40 [/SUP]And the King will answer and say to them, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these My brethren, you did it to Me.’
[SUP]41 [/SUP]“Then He will also say to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels: [SUP]42 [/SUP]for I was hungry and you gave Me no food; I was thirsty and you gave Me no drink; [SUP]43 [/SUP]I was a stranger and you did not take Me in, naked and you did not clothe Me, sick and in prison and you did not visit Me.’
[SUP]44 [/SUP]“Then they also will answer Him,[SUP][d][/SUP] saying, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to You?’ [SUP]45 [/SUP]Then He will answer them, saying, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.’ [SUP]46 [/SUP]And these will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”
 
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Bookends said:
It's a shame that these universalist can't rightly divide the word of God when it comes to eternal separation from God in the after life for those who don't want God in their life. I just learned Peter Hiett is in the same camp, too bad, I really like some of his preaching.
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Which universalists do rightly or even fuzzily divide?
 
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bookends....a lot of these guys were among the first kids that had to go to these Youth Pastor Groups Camp things.
dunno about Bell specifically, but all they had was endless entertainment etc.
separated from the sermon and services.
it had to be all about them.

"what does this mean to you" type-thing.

now they are "pastors".
with the post-modern "what is truth" blah blah?
 
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Although this thread is specifically about Rob Bell's new soon-to-be-released book about God, I would still like to link here a video which is a good "practical level" critique of Rob Bell's book "Love Wins". This critique is from Francis Chan (who personally spoke with Bell) and Preston Sprinkle (Francis and Preston co-wrote a book in response to Rob Bell called "Erasing Hell").

There is little doubt that Rob Bell's same self-centered method of interpretation he used for his last book about Hell have again been used in his new book about God, so this video critique could prove useful for books.

[video=youtube;v5s4sA8bM0M]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5s4sA8bM0M[/video]
 
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hmmmm. Okay.....that explains it

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yeah the video clip wasn't very helpful. but i found this article

he published “Love Wins: A Book About Heaven, Hell, and the Fate of Every Person Who Ever Lived,” in which he questioned the existence of Hell. The central message of “Love Wins” is that the church needs to stop scaring people away; in publishing it, Bell hoped to spark a movement toward a more congenial, less punitive form of Christianity.
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He says in one of his interview he's not Universalist,however his writting says that he is. M so glad most of the Christian book store in aus refused to sell his book
 
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Rob Bell is a false prophet/false teacher,the bible warns about people like that.

Beware of false prophets,who come to you in sheeps clothing,but inwardly are ravenous wolves Matthew 7:15

As we have said before,so I say again if any man is preaching to you a gospel contrary to what you recieved,he is to be accursed! Galatians 1:9

Rob Bell is a universalist he denies God's wrath, he denies the cross.
 
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I've never heard of Rob Bell!
 
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Chr said:
...Rob Bell is a universalist he denies God's wrath, he denies the cross.
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Isn't 1Cor.15:22 a key verse for the universalists?

1Cor.15

[21] For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
[22] For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
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Universalists will say that all men really means all men, in the sense of every-person-that-ever-lived-and-ever-will-live. Since all men are sinners, all men will be saved in Christ.

I hear exactly the same reasoning from non-universalist people who denounce limited atonement, holding this verse as a key verse to that end.

But, there's a problem here: all men are not in Christ.
 
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False teacher, maybe. False prophet, no. The man doesn't prophecy. I think he doesn't even realise how far he's been sucked in by these beliefs.
 
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