Rock Music - It Kills - Another good & informative article by Terry Watkins

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Well not all forms of music had their origin solely for the world. Take for example, the last supper. Sarah, did you know that at the last supper, the Lord Jesus and His apostles sang a hymn?

Check this out:

26 And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed it, and brake it, and gave it to the disciples, and said, Take, eat; this is my body.
27 And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it;
28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
29 But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom.
30 And when they had sung an hymn, they went out into the mount of Olives. - Matthew 26:26-30 (KJV)



22 And as they did eat, Jesus took bread, and blessed, and brake it, and gave to them, and said, Take, eat: this is my body.
23 And he took the cup, and when he had given thanks, he gave it to them: and they all drank of it.
24 And he said unto them, This is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many.
25 Verily I say unto you, I will drink no more of the fruit of the vine, until that day that I drink it new in the kingdom of God.
26 And when they had sung an hymn, they went out into the mount of Olives. - Mark 14:22-26 (KJV)



How awesome is that?

From that example in the Scriptures, the Hymns can be sung even if there are no instruments involved.



I never said they had to have instruments. Here are ywo pieces I really like and both are acapella.

In the First Light - Glad

[video=youtube;IOob4CRW8m0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOob4CRW8m0[/video]


But when the Bible speaks of hymns they are not speaking of pianos and organs,they didn't have them. So do we get rid of pianos and organs? Do we go back to traditional Jewish music? That is what they would have sung,they would not have sung Handel's Messiah,A Mighty Fortress is Our God,Blessed Assurance,etc,they weren't written yet.


Now if they quit calling it Christian Rock would you have a problem with it?
 
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And here is the second

The Gentle Healer - Michael Card

[video=youtube;YaNzG39Jq0g]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaNzG39Jq0g[/video]
 

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Right now all music is dangerous. Even some "gospel". Pray for discernment.
 

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my iTunes disagrees with this entire thread
 
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Tintin

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Right now all music is dangerous. Even some "gospel". Pray for discernment.
? If all music is dangerous, why do we need discernment? The premise of this thread is a big, fat fail. It's ridiculous, it's silly, it's mind-numbing and doesn't involve critical thought. Sure, we should be discerning with what we listen to, but let's not throw out the baby with the bathwater!
 
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"For I am persuaded , that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present , nor things to come , 39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. "

I don't know about you guys, but I'm not the least bit terrified of Rock Music......yes some of it has occult themes and some of it encourages bad behavior and can sometimes be a bad influence on young people.....but so can a billion other things. If someone has faith in the Lord, rock music isn't going to take that away......and if someone does not have faith in the Lord.....what type of music they are listening to is the absolute least of their problems.
 

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But when the Bible speaks of hymns they are not speaking of pianos and organs,they didn't have them. So do we get rid of pianos and organs? Do we go back to traditional Jewish music? That is what they would have sung,they would not have sung Handel's Messiah,A Mighty Fortress is Our God,Blessed Assurance,etc,they weren't written yet.


Now if they quit calling it Christian Rock would you have a problem with it?
Well did have instruments back then, the harp, the ten string instrument, but yea in regard to the Piano and Organ, they did not have those particular instruments back that time.

What would be good to do is to do a whole study on the origin of the Spiritual Hymns. I looked up some of the Jewish and Hebrew Hymns that are out there.

And check out this Hebrew Hymn which I found:

[video=youtube;gUa5pqAFdKg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUa5pqAFdKg[/video]


It has a really nice melody to it.



Well what would be better is if they did not call any type of worldly music (i.e. rap, rock, techno, reggae, r&b, etc.) Christian. Because it is not Christian.
 

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And here is the second

The Gentle Healer - Michael Card

[video=youtube;YaNzG39Jq0g]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaNzG39Jq0g[/video]

By the way Sarah, I am taking a listen at both of the videos you shared. The Accapella ones.
 

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the fact that i said we need discernment actually shows that I am not rejecting all music. smh. however, for clarity I was referring to genres
 

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More than half a million teenagers attempt suicide each year!
Nearly two—thousand a day!
Suicide has increased 300 percent since 1950. The teenage suicide rate in America is the highest of all industrialized nations. And according to the National Education Association, ". . . teenage suicides are linked to depression fueled by FATALISTIC MUSIC AND LYRICS."
I agree that rock and roll can be bad, but so can any form of worldly music, including all modern pop music, rock or whatever. You know the internet is a breeding grounds for cyber crime and "the devil's playground" basically. Know how many marriages are ruined and the increase in that statistic since the invention of the internet? So why are you online? No Christian Rock music? Are you using the internet for God? Can't music, regardless of genre, be used for God?

I wonder if the world population of 2.5 billion in 1950 compared to the world population now was taken into account in those researchers finding? Is this 300% per capita or just a steady rise to 300% without regards to population?
 
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ChosenByHim, do you think it would be beyond the grasp of a God so scandalous He created a race He foreknew would reject and betray Him (not to mention, He even humble Himself to be among and even below us to be tormented, tortured, and murdered for our sake to be with Him for eternity) to use all and any genre of music to reach people? C'mon now.

Don't have to like the music, but Attack Attack is just one band I've recently started listening to again. Sooo good I'm constantly being brought to tears. :c

"We live for what He's worth,
and thats more than youll know.
He died for what He loved,
and what he loved was you."
- From Stick Sickly

"Lord I will be anything for you.

Hallelujah,Hallelujah, saved by grace. x2

Hallelujah, I've been saved by grace,
Hallelujah, saved by grace.
and this is why, I've been saved,
by His grace."
- From Catfish soup

"And this is my call to the faithful,
I'll be for only you.
Doing what you, have called to me,
no one could ever understand,
my shame you took with those nails in your hands."

- From Bro Ashley's here

"Here's to selfish living out the window,
here's to the Holy Ghost, I will be faithful.

Here's to you I bring you new life.
Here's to you I bring you new life"
-Again from Bro Ashley's Here
 
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Many rock songs have evil lyrics. If you listen to some of them, they are trash and only from the Devil. Yes, they can put things in people's mind, and this is just a tool of the devil. I do not think that Christians should listen to rock music. If the beat overtakes your body and emotions, then you are in trouble right there.
 
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People, it's right to be discerning but don't make the Enemy out to be more powerful than he and his kind really are. Your talk makes it sounds as if you believe he's more powerful than God. And that's scary!
 
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Satan is not more powerful than God, but he certainly is more powerful than mankind. My father used to tell me many years ago that he trusted me, but he didn't trust the Devil. So don't make him less powerful than he is either. Rock music in my opinion is from the devil, end of story. I can't believe if you are a Christian, that you would say don't make the enemy out to be more powerful than he is. If you have ever come face to face with demonic people like I have, you would never say that sentence. Christians are to be aware that Satan is VERY powerful. No, not more powerful than the spirit of God within us, but don't toy and play with Satan and sin.... you may never win.
 
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Well this song was actually inspired by when someone stole the band's equipment, but the song is about suicide and Metallica has gotten thousands of fan letters from people who decided not to kill themselves because of this song. This is one of my favorite songs.
 
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Satan is not more powerful than God, but he certainly is more powerful than mankind. My father used to tell me many years ago that he trusted me, but he didn't trust the Devil. So don't make him less powerful than he is either. Rock music in my opinion is from the devil, end of story. I can't believe if you are a Christian, that you would say don't make the enemy out to be more powerful than he is. If you have ever come face to face with demonic people like I have, you would never say that sentence. Christians are to be aware that Satan is VERY powerful. No, not more powerful than the spirit of God within us, but don't toy and play with Satan and sin.... you may never win.
I'm definitely a Christian but some make the Enemy out to be more powerful than he really is. Some Christians here and elsewhere worship at the altar of fear (eg. conspiracy theories, the devil made me do it, the devil did this).
 
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The reason that many people cant connect to rock or metal music is because their fixed, its for the broken.

My heart is broke and I have some glue. Help me inhale and mend it with you. - Nirvana[h=3][/h]
 
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