Sabbath: The Lord's Day

[ozell]

this shows how dishonest you are. that you would cut Jesus as the fulfillment of the Law & prophets out of the passage to push your sabbatarianism-unto-justification false gospel.



Galatians 3 10 All who rely on observing the law are under a curse, for it is written: "Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law."

C

Let's go to the NT and read what the angel Gabriel told Mary


Luke 1:30-33 (KJV)
And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God. [31] And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS. [32] He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David: [33] And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.

C

Don't kings reign over kingdoms

Let's read it again

Mark 15:2,9,18,26 (KJV)
And Pilate asked him, Art thou the King of the Jews? And he answering said unto him, Thou sayest it . [9] But Pilate answered them, saying, Will ye that I release unto you the King of the Jews? [18] And began to salute him, Hail, King of the Jews! [26] And the superscription of his accusation was written over, THE KING OF THE JEWS .

Jesus is king of the Jews and the whole world When he return

 

[ozell]

Psalm 47:2 (KJV)
For the Lord most high is terrible; he is a great King over all the earth.

Psalm 48:1-3 (KJV)
Great is the Lord , and greatly to be praised in the city of our God, in the mountain of his holiness. [2] Beautiful for situation, the joy of the whole earth, is mount Zion, on the sides of the north, the city of the great King. [3] God is known in her palaces for a refuge.

Zechariah 9:9 (KJV)
Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he is just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass.

C

Who is this coming riding on a ass
Who is this king?

Should I put the testimony ?

Or can yogi figure it out

 

[ozell]

Christans are not under a sabbath law. Jews were and still are.

Col. 2:
13. And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
14. Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
15. And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
16. Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
17. Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

God nailed all of the OT law to the cross for those who trust in Jesus.

Read all of Acts 15. It's about the attempt of some to burden Antioch gentile believers with OT law keeping.

Acts 15
23. And they wrote letters by them after this manner; The apostles and elders and brethren send greeting unto the brethren which are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia:
24. Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment:
25. It seemed good unto us, being assembled with one accord, to send chosen men unto you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul,
26. Men that have hazarded their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.
27. We have sent therefore Judas and Silas, who shall also tell you the same things by mouth.
28. For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things;
29. That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.

Blessings, Bill

Bill

Where for it say that the Gentules are not under the OT laws even the sabbath day?

Go back and read the commandments Bill
For fornication and idol worship is in the law.

Let's read

Exodus 20:1,3-5 (KJV)
And God spake all these words, saying, [3] Thou shalt have no other gods before me. [4] Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: [5] Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

Are these idols God is telling us not to have before him

Let's read
Exodus 20:14 (KJV)
Thou shalt not commit adultery.

Is fornication and adultery the same?

Matthew 15:18-20 (KJV)
But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man. [19] For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies: [20] These are the things which defile a man: but to eat with unwashen hands defileth not a man.

You error

 

[LawofLove]

Yes, you are legalistic because you don't even understand what this Sabbath really is. You just want to keep it because it's a command. This is how Israel tried to keep it and they fell. The people who do not understand shall fall. Yes, you are trying to obey Him to get to heaven and that's legalistic not because you understand why He commanded it and then by love and faith of God you keep His commandments. You people keep ranting only one thing. Because it is one of the ten commandments one should keep the sabbath and your reason doesn't make any sense. You can't see Bible in my talk because you are blind. Just because I don't quote the verse doesn't mean I am not talking the Bible. Tell me which part was out of the Bible and was my private interpretation. Your judgment about me is completely wrong. If you think you are a messenger then just leave a message of God. Do not limit the commandments of God only to those ten.

You could not be further from the truth. But I forgive you.

 

[ozell]

you prove a future 1,000 years. everything you have is riding on it.

and that is why there is a veil over your heart, and you must look to tablets of stone.

You error C

The commandments did. OT start with MOses or Israel

Let's read

Wha is Sin?
Sin is the breaking of the law

1 John 3:4 (KJV)
Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

Cain broke the law cause he sinned

Genesis 4:6-7 (KJV)
And the Lord said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen? [7] If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.

The law was not written on a stone here now was it

Before man and the earth was created te Lord found iniquity in Satan

Ezekiel 28:14-15 (KJV)
Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so : thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. [15] Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

Guess what C
The law was not written in stone

The law has always been here as Jesus has always been here

You error again

The sabbath has always been here as the commandments

 

[ozell]

What we have here is what the Lord told to Ezekiel

These Gentiles are doing the same thing Israel did

They have setup Idols in there mind and it is a stumbling block to those who seek the truth

Ezekiel 14:2-5 (KJV)
And the word of the Lord came unto me, saying, [3] Son of man, these men have set up their idols in their heart, and put the stumblingblock of their iniquity before their face: should I be enquired of at all by them? [4] Therefore speak unto them, and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God ; Every man of the house of Israel that setteth up his idols in his heart, and putteth the stumblingblock of his iniquity before his face, and cometh to the prophet; I the Lord will answer him that cometh according to the multitude of his idols; [5] That I may take the house of Israel in their own heart, because they are all estranged from me through their idols.

 

[ozell]

During the days of the apostles the Gentiles recognized that they had to observe the seventh day Sabbath.

"And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next Sabbath day" (Acts 13:42).

These people did not try to come up with their own Sabbath, but instead honored the Lord's Sabbath which he had given to Israel.

Later, Paul not only persuaded the Jews, but the Greeks also "every Sabbath" (Acts 18:4).

Therefore, the apostles and the newly converted Gentiles all observed the seventh day Sabbath.

As we have already pointed out it was not until the 4th Century A.D. that the Gentiles changed the Sabbath to Sunday.

However, if the Sabbath had changed after the resurrection of Jesus, Paul and those who were first called Christians would not have continued to observe it.

"And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them and three Sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures" (Acts 17:2).

In all the traveling that Paul did he still found time to keep the Sabbath and other holy days.

 

[ozell]

Some attempt to twist the scriptures (woe unto them) to support their theory that the Sabbath changed.

Paul's preaching, breaking bread, and gathering collections on the first day does not change the Sabbath (Acts 20:7 and I Corinthians 16:2).

Any minister today will preach, eat with friends and receive donations on any day of the week.

Furthermore, calling Sunday "The Lord's Day" does not change the Sabbath either.

Actually, "The Lord's Day" is not Sunday or Saturday, but a period of time immediately following the "Great Tribulation."

This is when God will begin to punish the world for our evil.

This day is also known as "The Day of the Lord." The prophet Joel and the apostle John both saw and spoke about this terrible day (Joel 2:1-11 and Revelation 1:10).

 

[ozell]

None of these scriptures do away with God's seventh day Sabbath.

If the Lord wanted to change his Sabbath, he would have told us plainly.

After all he told us plainly 'remember the Sabbath day to keep it Holy." Yes, the seventh day is holy to the Lord (Nehemiah 9:14).

How can you do away with or change that which is holy?

The Sabbath is still the seventh day and the first day is merely the first day.

"In the end of the Sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week..." (Matthew 28:1).

No change here, huh?

 

[Laodicea]

There is no verse in all the Bible that tells us to keep the first day or any of days 1-6 holy in the same way as the sabbath. There is no verse in all the Bible that says that God ever made days 1-6 holy, if there is then I would keep that day. While we are to live in Christ and living the life He wants there is no verse telling us they were made Holy

There is more than one verse telling us the 7th day has been made holy that God has blessed it. I ask all who do not keep the Sabbath of the Lord to show me a verse that says God took away His blessing of the 7th day.

Because no one has shown any verse but, have used only there own opinion then it proves my point.

 

[ozell]

The bible stresses that we should be followers of Christ.

It also forbids us to make up and follow our own traditions.

Jesus made a practice of observing the Sabbath day. "And as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day..." (Luke 4:16).

A true follower of Christ will honor the seventh day, just as Jesus did.

 

[ozell]

Although Jesus honored the Sabbath, many people attempt to use his compassion to do away with it.

If someone is in need on the Sabbath, we as servants of God are not to ignore them.

Jesus said, "...it is lawful to do well on the Sabbath days" (Matthew 12:12). Common sense lets us know that if a special need arises on the Sabbath day we are allowed to handle it.

Just as Jesus healed people and spoke of pulling an ox out of a well on the Sabbath. Doing what's necessary on the Sabbath does not do away with it. The Sabbath was made to benefit man and not be a hindrance, "...

The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath:" (Mark 2:27). Furthermore, Jesus informed us that he is Lord of the Sabbath, which proves he instituted it (Mark 2:28).

 

[angelofmercy]

The bible stresses that we should be followers of Christ.

It also forbids us to make up and follow our own traditions.

Jesus made a practice of observing the Sabbath day. "And as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day..." (Luke 4:16).

A true follower of Christ will honor the seventh day, just as Jesus did.

So am I doomed because I do NOT got to the synagogue on the sabbath day as WAS HIS CUSTOM? Again a custom is NOT a commandment but a TRADITION.

 

[ozell]

So am I doomed because I do NOT got to the synagogue on the sabbath day as WAS HIS CUSTOM? Again a custom is NOT a commandment but a TRADITION.

AOM

You think Jesus custom is tradition? That between you and Him

I will leave you with these verses

Numbers 15:32-36 (KJV)
And while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man that gathered sticks upon the sabbath day. [33] And they that found him gathering sticks brought him unto Moses and Aaron, and unto all the congregation. [34] And they put him in ward, because it was not declared what should be done to him. [35] And the Lord said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death: all the congregation shall stone him with stones without the camp. [36] And all the congregation brought him without the camp, and stoned him with stones, and he died; as the Lord commanded Moses.

Jesus had a man stoned for picking up sticks on the sabbath

Do this scare you?

If not let head over to what Jesus said

Matthew 5:17-19 (KJV)
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. [18] For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. [19] Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them , the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

If a person is least in the kingdom of heaven that person is not in the kingdom

The commandments include the sabbath day

If you are still not convinced lets get another witness

We read Moses writings Paul will expound on it more

Hebrews 10:26-30 (KJV)
For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, [27] But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. [28] He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: [29] Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? [30] For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.

Sin is breaking the commandments which includes the sabbath day

Look what happens to those who sin willfully

Most Christians know the sabbath day is the 7th day called Saturday

What does Paul say will happen to them?
What is the fiery indignation he speaks of?

You know

Are you doomed?

I'm not God

What do you read?

Do you think a adultery/ child molester / killer / idol worshippers should not
Be doomed?They break the same set of laws

 

[ozell]

We Chrisitans have to understand that this Jesus destroyed a whole world by a flood because of sin


Genesis 6:5-7,11-13 (KJV)
And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. [6] And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart. [7] And the Lord said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them. [11] The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence. [12] And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth. [13] And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.

 

[ozell]

Let's think about what sin is according to te bible

1 John 3:4 (KJV)
Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

What law?

The commandments and every word that proceeds from God's mouth

What if we break these laws?

Romans 6:23 (KJV)
For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Now consider Paul is telling us that sin =death
Long after Jesus has died for ow sins

The sabbath is part of the law do if you break the law you are suppose to die

Is this not what happened to the man who picked up the sticks on the sabbath
Is this not what happened to a entire world of people in the flood

Is this not wha happens today

I live in Chicago on the south side and anyone here who watch the news know what is happening to these black teenagers

The wages of sin is death

People are still dying for breaking God's laws

Wake up people lets keep God's commandments and teach all to do the same

 

[ozell]

Sunday worshippers what of you are wrong ?

On judgement day you are going to stand before the Lord and say what?

You did not know ?

Do you really think that's gonna work?

 

[ozell]

Psalm 111:10 (KJV)
The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom: a good understanding have all they that do his commandments : his praise endureth for ever.

Take note to what David wrote above

Do you understand not to have no other God before Jesus?

Do you understand not to commit adultery on your spouse?

Do you understand not to kill someone?

Here is a saying that my pastor tell us all the time

And you all should take note

What separates a saint from a sinner?

The commandments

If we are the saints ten we cannot go out in the world and sin

We keep the sabbath
The world keep Sunday, yes the world keeps Sunday

 

[ozell]

On judgement day you ate going to stand before the Lord and say you kept the first day of the week holy because you Jesus rose on that day?

The Lord is going to read the bible to you and then say


Matthew 7:22-24 (KJV)
Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? [23] And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. [24] Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:

Of you like Jesus saying them do them

Sunday worship is not one of then

 

[angelofmercy]

AOM

You think Jesus custom is tradition? That between you and Him

I will leave you with these verses

Numbers 15:32-36 (KJV)
And while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man that gathered sticks upon the sabbath day. [33] And they that found him gathering sticks brought him unto Moses and Aaron, and unto all the congregation. [34] And they put him in ward, because it was not declared what should be done to him. [35] And the Lord said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death: all the congregation shall stone him with stones without the camp. [36] And all the congregation brought him without the camp, and stoned him with stones, and he died; as the Lord commanded Moses.

Jesus had a man stoned for picking up sticks on the sabbath

Do this scare you?

If not let head over to what Jesus said i

Matthew 5:17-19 (KJV)
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. [18] For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. [19] Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them , the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

If a person is least in the kingdom of heaven that person is not in the kingdom

The commandments include the sabbath day

If you are still not convinced lets get another witness

We read Moses writings Paul will expound on it more

Hebrews 10:26-30 (KJV)
For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, [27] But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. [28] He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: [29] Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? [30] For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.

Sin is breaking the commandments which includes the sabbath day

Look what happens to those who sin willfully

Most Christians know the sabbath day is the 7th day called Saturday

What does Paul say will happen to them?
What is the fiery indignation he speaks of?

You know

Are you doomed?

I'm not God

What do you read?

Do you think a adultery/ child molester / killer / idol worshippers should not
Be doomed?They break the same set of laws

I remember you. I watched pastor Buie I believe on tv. Learned alot, but even he has a veil over his heart. The man picking sticks was stoned WITHOUT THE CAMP, as also Jesus SUFFERED WITHOUT THE GATE. You see as those who are least in the kingdom are the ones burning in the lake of fire. But Jesus said of all who were born to women, none is greater than John the baptist. BUT THOSE THAT ARE LEAST IN THE KINGDOM ARE GREATER THAN HIM!

And remember we also die as a sinner.