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Hmm, so now your saying Jesus had no humanity at all. But it is certainly possible for corruptible flesh to not sin, providing the inhabitant of said flesh is Divine and cannot sin by nature.
1 Corinthians 15:50
Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
T
Also I should have said this but forgot to. Saying Jesus had corruptible flesh does not imply that Jesus had sin it is saying that Jesus had flesh that just like ours is subject to the same corruption of nature from Adam's sin. Like sickness, disease, sinful impulses, etc.
You present an interesting quandary for yourself. According to you there is only one God with only one Divine person, correct? So it logically follows that if Jesus is God and if God is only one Divine person while Jesus was on Earth God was not in Heaven, and therefore there was no one to hear his prayers. So that means you have to either deny that Jesus was Divine, admit that there is more than one Divine person, or come up with some convoluted explanation to explain how God can be in Heaven and simultaneously fully incarnate in the flesh as Jesus.
Jesus is in heaven and earth at the same time.
42And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom. 43And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise(Luke 23:42-43).
Even though Jesus went to hell when He died,the thief would be with Him that day in paradise.
Jesus explained this to let them know that He is God on earth,and God in heaven,so they will know that He is an omnipresent Spirit that is showing a visible manifestation of Himself,to let them know that He is God,who can dwell on earth,and be in heaven according to His Spirit.
If God shows a visible manifestation of Himself,according to His Spirit,He would still be in heaven.
You cannot fit all of God's Spirit in a human body,so the Son,the man Christ Jesus,is the fulness of all God's attributes,being God the Father's personal human body to have a visible relationship to the saints.
Jesus is the Father showing a visible manifestation of Himself by the Son,the man Christ Jesus.
There is one God who is an omnipresent Spirit with no distinction of persons.
Father does not make a first person of a trinity,it just means that one God created mankind and is the Father of the saints.
The Son is the man Christ Jesus,which the visible appearance does not make the Son another person,it just means the Father manifest all His attributes to the man Christ Jesus.
The Holy Spirit does not make another person,it is what God is,a Holy Spirit.
Z
13And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven(John 3:13).
Jesus is in heaven and earth at the same time.
42And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom. 43And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise(Luke 23:42-43).
Even though Jesus went to hell when He died,the thief would be with Him that day in paradise.
Jesus explained this to let them know that He is God on earth,and God in heaven,so they will know that He is an omnipresent Spirit that is showing a visible manifestation of Himself,to let them know that He is God,who can dwell on earth,and be in heaven according to His Spirit.
If God shows a visible manifestation of Himself,according to His Spirit,He would still be in heaven.
You cannot fit all of God's Spirit in a human body,so the Son,the man Christ Jesus,is the fulness of all God's attributes,being God the Father's personal human body to have a visible relationship to the saints.
Jesus is the Father showing a visible manifestation of Himself by the Son,the man Christ Jesus.
There is one God who is an omnipresent Spirit with no distinction of persons.
Father does not make a first person of a trinity,it just means that one God created mankind and is the Father of the saints.
The Son is the man Christ Jesus,which the visible appearance does not make the Son another person,it just means the Father manifest all His attributes to the man Christ Jesus.
The Holy Spirit does not make another person,it is what God is,a Holy Spirit.
Jesus is in heaven and earth at the same time.
42And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom. 43And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise(Luke 23:42-43).
Even though Jesus went to hell when He died,the thief would be with Him that day in paradise.
Jesus explained this to let them know that He is God on earth,and God in heaven,so they will know that He is an omnipresent Spirit that is showing a visible manifestation of Himself,to let them know that He is God,who can dwell on earth,and be in heaven according to His Spirit.
If God shows a visible manifestation of Himself,according to His Spirit,He would still be in heaven.
You cannot fit all of God's Spirit in a human body,so the Son,the man Christ Jesus,is the fulness of all God's attributes,being God the Father's personal human body to have a visible relationship to the saints.
Jesus is the Father showing a visible manifestation of Himself by the Son,the man Christ Jesus.
There is one God who is an omnipresent Spirit with no distinction of persons.
Father does not make a first person of a trinity,it just means that one God created mankind and is the Father of the saints.
The Son is the man Christ Jesus,which the visible appearance does not make the Son another person,it just means the Father manifest all His attributes to the man Christ Jesus.
The Holy Spirit does not make another person,it is what God is,a Holy Spirit.
H
One question: Would you then say that, since the Father and the Spirit are the same, that the Father sent Himself by Himself (Jesus)?
God is a Spirit.
1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
God is Word.
They are aspects of God The Father and can never be seperated. There are no three seperate gods.
Isaiah 44:8
Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.
God The Father came to save sinners Himself because He knew none were righteous.
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13And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven(John 3:13).
Jesus is in heaven and earth at the same time.
42And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom. 43And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise(Luke 23:42-43).
Even though Jesus went to hell when He died,the thief would be with Him that day in paradise.
Jesus explained this to let them know that He is God on earth,and God in heaven,so they will know that He is an omnipresent Spirit that is showing a visible manifestation of Himself,to let them know that He is God,who can dwell on earth,and be in heaven according to His Spirit.
If God shows a visible manifestation of Himself,according to His Spirit,He would still be in heaven.
You cannot fit all of God's Spirit in a human body,so the Son,the man Christ Jesus,is the fulness of all God's attributes,being God the Father's personal human body to have a visible relationship to the saints.
Jesus is the Father showing a visible manifestation of Himself by the Son,the man Christ Jesus.
There is one God who is an omnipresent Spirit with no distinction of persons.
Father does not make a first person of a trinity,it just means that one God created mankind and is the Father of the saints.
The Son is the man Christ Jesus,which the visible appearance does not make the Son another person,it just means the Father manifest all His attributes to the man Christ Jesus.
The Holy Spirit does not make another person,it is what God is,a Holy Spirit.
Jesus is in heaven and earth at the same time.
42And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom. 43And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise(Luke 23:42-43).
Even though Jesus went to hell when He died,the thief would be with Him that day in paradise.
Jesus explained this to let them know that He is God on earth,and God in heaven,so they will know that He is an omnipresent Spirit that is showing a visible manifestation of Himself,to let them know that He is God,who can dwell on earth,and be in heaven according to His Spirit.
If God shows a visible manifestation of Himself,according to His Spirit,He would still be in heaven.
You cannot fit all of God's Spirit in a human body,so the Son,the man Christ Jesus,is the fulness of all God's attributes,being God the Father's personal human body to have a visible relationship to the saints.
Jesus is the Father showing a visible manifestation of Himself by the Son,the man Christ Jesus.
There is one God who is an omnipresent Spirit with no distinction of persons.
Father does not make a first person of a trinity,it just means that one God created mankind and is the Father of the saints.
The Son is the man Christ Jesus,which the visible appearance does not make the Son another person,it just means the Father manifest all His attributes to the man Christ Jesus.
The Holy Spirit does not make another person,it is what God is,a Holy Spirit.
Z
1In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 2And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
God is a Spirit.
1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
God is Word.
They are aspects of God The Father and can never be seperated. There are no three seperate gods.
Isaiah 44:8
Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.
God The Father came to save sinners Himself because He knew none were righteous.
God is a Spirit.
1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
God is Word.
They are aspects of God The Father and can never be seperated. There are no three seperate gods.
Isaiah 44:8
Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.
God The Father came to save sinners Himself because He knew none were righteous.
2. Does this mean that Jesus just prayed to Himself?
C
From “The Lost Book of Peter”
And Simon said: “Your scripture says: ‘and God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness.’ Now, ‘let us make,’ implies two or more; certainly not one only.”
And Peter answered: “God is three identities, the Father, the Son, the Holy Ghost, all of which are one. A tree we consider as one, yet it has a root, trunk and limbs; then leaves and fruit. Starting with the root, the rest of the tree is an extension. The root of the tree controls while the rest of the tree springs forth from the root. Therefore the root would represent God; the trunk and limbs are our Teacher and King, Christ; the fruit of the tree would be considered the Holy Spirit - three separate, but the one same tree. Man’s body is one, yet it has multiple parts that do the will of the mind. The mind says to the hands: ‘stretch out and create.’ It says to the mouth: ‘speak forth my words, thoughts and will.’ God said to His Wisdom: ‘Let us make a man.’ But His Wisdom was that with Whom He Himself always rejoiced as with His own spirit, God united as one, yet extended out, as a hand, creating the universe, just as your hand is a ‘hand’ of itself yet is united to you as part of the body as a whole. Also, one man was made, and from him a female went forth. So God Himself looks upon man and wife as one: ‘A man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.’ Man and wife are two, but to God they are one. Therefore I offer up the honor to One God as if Parents.
And Peter: “No one knows the Father but the Son, nor does anyone know the Son but the Father, and they to whom the Son may wish to reveal Him. I am amazed that you would think the statement is made in reference to the ignorance of the Creator (Demiurge to Simon), and all who are under him. You claim Christ was the son of David and not the Son of God. The reason you are confused is, as I have said, that the Son will not reveal Himself to unbelievers. He gives that revelation to whom He wishes. He gave the knowledge to Adam, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and Moses. This revelation has all along been given only to the people who were worthy. We were taught not to get frustrated at those who cannot understand, because God has a block on their minds. They are blinded to the truth.
“It is now possible for all to know Him through His Son Jesus. ‘I have concealed these things from the wise, and have revealed them to sucking babes.’
“Aren’t you, Simon, the standing one, who has the boldness to make these statements which never have been made before?”
And Simon said: “Your scripture says: ‘and God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness.’ Now, ‘let us make,’ implies two or more; certainly not one only.”
And Peter answered: “God is three identities, the Father, the Son, the Holy Ghost, all of which are one. A tree we consider as one, yet it has a root, trunk and limbs; then leaves and fruit. Starting with the root, the rest of the tree is an extension. The root of the tree controls while the rest of the tree springs forth from the root. Therefore the root would represent God; the trunk and limbs are our Teacher and King, Christ; the fruit of the tree would be considered the Holy Spirit - three separate, but the one same tree. Man’s body is one, yet it has multiple parts that do the will of the mind. The mind says to the hands: ‘stretch out and create.’ It says to the mouth: ‘speak forth my words, thoughts and will.’ God said to His Wisdom: ‘Let us make a man.’ But His Wisdom was that with Whom He Himself always rejoiced as with His own spirit, God united as one, yet extended out, as a hand, creating the universe, just as your hand is a ‘hand’ of itself yet is united to you as part of the body as a whole. Also, one man was made, and from him a female went forth. So God Himself looks upon man and wife as one: ‘A man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.’ Man and wife are two, but to God they are one. Therefore I offer up the honor to One God as if Parents.
And Peter: “No one knows the Father but the Son, nor does anyone know the Son but the Father, and they to whom the Son may wish to reveal Him. I am amazed that you would think the statement is made in reference to the ignorance of the Creator (Demiurge to Simon), and all who are under him. You claim Christ was the son of David and not the Son of God. The reason you are confused is, as I have said, that the Son will not reveal Himself to unbelievers. He gives that revelation to whom He wishes. He gave the knowledge to Adam, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and Moses. This revelation has all along been given only to the people who were worthy. We were taught not to get frustrated at those who cannot understand, because God has a block on their minds. They are blinded to the truth.
“It is now possible for all to know Him through His Son Jesus. ‘I have concealed these things from the wise, and have revealed them to sucking babes.’
“Aren’t you, Simon, the standing one, who has the boldness to make these statements which never have been made before?”