SEVEN DEMONS, SEVEN DEADLY SINS

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SEVEN DEMONS, SEVEN DEADLY SINS:

The
Seven Deadly Sins, also known as the Capital Vices or Cardinal Sins, is a classification
of objectionable vices that have been used since early Christian times to educate and
instruct followers concerning fallen humanity's tendency to sin. The Deadly Sins do not
belong to an additional category of sin. Rather, they are the sins that are seen as the
origin ("capital" comes from the Latin caput, head) of the other sins.

In the Book of Proverbs (Mishlai), King Solomon stated that the Lord specifically regards
"six things the Lord hateth, and the seventh His soul detesteth." While there are seven of
them, this list is considerably different from the traditional one, with only pride clearly
being in both lists.

Another list, given this time by the Epistle to the Galatians (Galatians 5:19-21), includes
more of the traditional seven sins, although the list is substantially longer: adultery,
fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, idolatry, sorcery, hatred, variance, emulations,
wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, "and such
like". Since Saint Paul goes on to say that the persons who commit these sins "shall not
inherit the Kingdom of God"


Reference (Link): Seven deadly sins - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

SEVEN DEADLY SINS:

1) Pride
2) Envy
3) Gluttony
4) Sloth --

5) Lust
6) Avarice, (Avarice == Greed)
7) Wrath


How many Bible verses can you find that pertain to any of these?


The Movie -- SEVEN (SE7EN)
In an unidentified city of near-constant rain and urban decay, the soon-to-be retiring
Detective William R. Somerset (Freeman) is partnered with short-tempered Detective
David Mills (Pitt) who recently transferred to the department.

The detectives investigate a series of murders relating to the seven deadly sins, such as
an obese man who was forced to feed himself to death, representing "Gluttony". They
find clues at each crime scene related to other deaths, and believe they are chasing a
serial killer. A set of fingerprints found at the scene of the "Greed" murder — the fatal
bloodletting of a rich attorney — leads them to an apartment where they find an
emaciated man strapped to a bed. Though he initially appears to be dead, it soon is
discovered that the man has been kept alive and entirely immobile by the killer for
exactly one year to the day; a drug dealer and child molester before his captivity, this
victim represents "Sloth", and dies soon after from shock. Though unable to learn
anything from the insentient victim, the detectives agree that the killer has planned
these crimes for more than a year.

Using illegally obtained library records, Somerset and Mills track down a man named John
Doe (Kevin Spacey), who has frequently checked out books related to the deadly sins.
When Doe finds the detectives approaching his apartment, he opens fire on them and
flees, chased by Mills. Eventually, Doe gains the upper hand and holds Mills at gunpoint,
but then abruptly leaves. Investigation of Doe's apartment finds handwritten volumes of
his irrational judgments and clues leading to another potential victim, but no fingerprints.
They arrive too late to find their "Lust" victim, a prostitute killed by a man wearing a
bladed S&M device, forced by Doe to simultaneously rape and kill her. Some time later,
they investigate the death of a young model whose face had been mutilated. Having
chosen to kill herself rather than live with a disfigured face, she is the victim of "Pride".

As they return to the police station, Doe appears to them and offers himself for arrest,
with the blood of the model and an unidentified victim on his hands. They find out that he
has been cutting the skin off his fingers to avoid leaving fingerprints. Through his lawyer,
Doe claims he will lead the two detectives to the last two bodies and confess to the
crimes, or otherwise will plead insanity. Though Somerset is worried, Mills agrees to the
demand. Doe directs the two detectives to a remote desert area far from the city; along
the way, he claims that God told him to punish the wicked and reveal the world for the
awful place that it is. He also makes cryptic comments toward Mills.

After arriving at the location, a delivery van approaches; Somerset intercepts the driver,
leaving Mills and Doe alone. The driver hands over a package he was instructed to deliver
at precisely this time and location. While Mills holds Doe at gunpoint, Doe mentions how
much he admires him, but does not say why. Somerset opens the package and recoils in
horror at the sight of the contents. He races back to warn Mills not to listen to Doe, but
the killer reveals that the box contains Tracy's head. Doe claims to represent the sin of
"Envy"; he was jealous of Mills' normal life, and killed Tracy after failing to "play husband"
with her. He then taunts the distraught Mills with the knowledge that Tracy was pregnant.
Somerset is unable to contain Mills as he unloads his gun into Doe, becoming the
embodiment of "Wrath". After a catatonic Mills is taken away, Somerset is asked where
he will be; he replies, "around".

The film ends with the sun setting over the desert, with Somerset quoting Ernest
Hemingway's For Whom the Bell Tolls:

Reference (Link): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_(film).
 
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Se7en is such a fantastically well done movie though. I remember the first time I watched it I was just like wow...
 
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as far as I know the only "big" sin in the bible is blasphemy against the holy spirit. I have never found bible verses talking of the "seven deadly sins"

BTW: ALL sins are deadly if we are not covered by the blood of Jesus...
 
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as far as I know the only "big" sin in the bible is blasphemy against the holy
spirit. I have never found bible verses talking of the "seven deadly sins"

BTW: ALL sins are deadly if we are not covered by the blood of Jesus...
Thanks for asking - I went a little further this time ...

From an earlier post - annotated:

In the Book of Proverbs, King Solomon stated that the Lord specifically regards "six things
the Lord hateth, and the seventh His soul detesteth." namely:

* A proud look.
* A lying tongue.
* Hands that shed innocent blood.
* A heart that devises wicked plots.
* Feet that are swift to run into mischief.
* A deceitful witness that uttereth lies.
* Him that soweth discord among brethren.

Note: I have recently seen Solomon's listing compared with the Ten Commandments - interesting.

The Epistle to the Galatians (Galatians 5:19-21), includes more of the traditional seven
sins, although the list is substantially longer:

adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, idolatry, sorcery, hatred, variance,
emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings,
"and such like"
.

Since Saint Paul goes on to say that the persons who commit these sins "shall not inherit
the Kingdom of God", they are usually listed as (possible) mortal sins rather than Capital
Vices.

Luke 8:1-3
Soon afterward he went on through cities and villages, proclaiming and bringing the good
news of the kingdom of God. And the twelve were with him, 2 and also some women who
had been healed of evil spirits and infirmities: Mary, called Magdalene, from whom seven
demons had gone out
, and Joanna, the wife of Chuza, Herod's household manager, and
Susanna, and many others, who provided for them out of their means.
(ESV)

(Luke 11: 24-26):

"When an evil spirit comes out of a man, it goes through arid places seeking rest and
does not find it. Then it says, 'I will return to the house I left.' When it arrives, it finds the
house swept clean and put in order. Then it goes and takes seven other spirits more
wicked than itself
, and they go in and live there. And the final condition of that man is
worse than the first."

(Matthew 12: 43-45)
When an unclean spirit goes out of a man, he goes through dry places, seeking rest,
and finds none. Then he says, ‘I will return to my house from which I came.’ And when he
comes, he finds it empty, swept, and put in order.

Then he goes and takes with him seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and
they enter and dwell there; and the last state of that man is worse than the first. So shall
it also be with this wicked generation.”

Note Solomon saying -- PRIDE goeth before destruction, a HAUGHTY SPIRIT before a fall ...
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When we begin to look at the seven churches described in the Book of Revelation, we
discover specific demonic strongholds that can be found at church. Let’s take a look at
these spirits.

1) Spirit of Religion (Revelation 2:4–5, 7)
2) Spirit of Intimidation (Revelation 2:10–11)
3) Spirit of Compromise (Revelation 2:12, 14–17)
4) Spirit of Jezebel (Control) (Revelation 2:18-20, 26)
5) Spirit of Traditionalism (Revelation 3:1–6)
6) Spirit of Inferiority (Revelation 3:7–8, 12)
7) Spirit of Pride (Revelation 3:14–17, 21)

Seven Demons That Attack the Church

See also"
* The Devils and Evil Spirits of Babylonia - The Devils and Evil Spirits of Babylonia
* THE SEVEN EVIL SPIRITS THE SEVEN EVIL SPIRITS


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Extra-Biblical References back to the Bible:

Dæmonary: Book of Phoenixian Demonology
The Seven Deadly Sins

Envy: Leviathan: An enormous demon of darkness and chaos; associated with the sea;
inspires arrogance and envy. From Hebrew Livyathan, Livyatan. c.1380.
(Judeo-Christian)

Gluttony: Beelzebub: The prince of demons; the lord of the flies; inspires gluttony, unholy
desire, jealousy, war, and murder. From Hebrew Ba'al-Z'bub, Ba'al-Z'bul. bef.1100.
(Islamic, Judeo-Christian, Satanic)

Greed: Mammon: Demon of wealth; son of the Devil; inspires gross injustice, idolatry, and
the love of money over all other things. From Late Latin Mammon, from Greek
Mammonas, from Aramaic Mamona
. c.1362. (Judeo-Christian)

Lust: Asmodeus: Demon of wrath; prince of demons; the father of monsters; inspires
gambling, deceit, lust, and revenge. From Avestan Aesma-daeva. (Judeo-Christian)

Pride: Lucifer: A great angel cast into Hell; also known as the light bringer, the bearer of
light, and the morning star; inspires pride and rebellion. From Latin Lucifer. bef.1000.
(Islamic, Judeo-Christian, Satanic)

Sloth: Belphegor: Demon of indifference; inspires extreme laziness and spiritual apathy.
From Hebrew Baal-Peor, Bel-Phegor. (Judeo-Christian)

Wrath: Satan: An angel expelled from heaven; evil personified; the great adversary;
inspires mankind to turn away from God; inspires mortal sins. From Greek Satanas, from
Hebrew śāṭān
. bef.900. (Islamic, Judeo-Christian, Satanic)

Demons: Seven Deadly Sins

 
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Proverbs 6:16-19
(16) These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
(17) A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
(18) An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
(19) A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.
Proverbs 26:24-25
(24) He that hateth dissembleth with his lips, and layeth up deceit within him;
(25) When he speaketh fair, believe him not: for there are seven abominations in his heart.
Proverbs 24:16
(16) For a just man falleth seven times, and riseth up again: but the wicked shall fall into mischief.


 
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it still doesn't say "dedly sins" though

Like I said, any sin is by definition deadly
 
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it still doesn't say "dedly sins" though

Like I said, any sin is by definition deadly
I agree any sin is deadly and leads to nothing but death without the gift of God
 
May 2, 2011
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it still doesn't say "dedly sins" though

Like I said, any sin is by definition deadly

Romans 6:16
Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to
whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

Romans 7:5
For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our
members to bring forth fruit unto death.

1 John 5:16
If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give
him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he
shall pray for it.

1 John 5:17
All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death.
 
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Se7en is such a fantastically well done movie though. I remember the first time I watched it I was just like wow...

EEEE I hate that movie! So horrible! I can't watch it any more and to think that crazy stuff is still happening. The little boy who just got chopped to pieces. Dear God help us!
 
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Seven Deadly Sins
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73N6nJCbYec[/video]
 
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it still doesn't say "dedly sins" though

Like I said, any sin is by definition deadly
They call them deadly sins because they are the ones that can destroy a person's life. The ones that a person can get carried away with and not realize it until they've already hit rock bottom or at a point where it will be very difficult to turn back, sort of like drugs or alcohol.
 
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EEEE I hate that movie! So horrible! I can't watch it any more and to think that crazy stuff is still happening. The little boy who just got chopped to pieces. Dear God help us!
I agree! :)
 
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They call them deadly sins because they are the ones that can destroy a person's life. The ones that a person can get carried away with and not realize it until they've already hit rock bottom or at a point where it will be very difficult to turn back, sort of like drugs or alcohol.

Without trying to be semantic, I see these Se7en* as SPIRITS or DEMONS rather than
sins unto themselves.

* Pride, Envy, Gluttony, Sloth -- Lust, Avarice (greed) and Wrath (PEGS LAW)

Pride goeth before destruction a haughty SPIRIT before a fall. Proverbs 16:18

The words PRIDE + PROUD occur over 100 times in the King James, to say nothing of
synonyms such as arrogance, puffed up, EGO- lovers of self and etc.


I believe it is these ATTITUDES (SPIRITS) that lead to sin -- as in --
* PRIDE BEFORE DESTRUCTION
* HAUGHTY SPIRIT BEFORE FALL
We are told -- Be angry and sin not - Ephesians 4:26
Anger ( a synonym for 'Wrath') being a spirit/demon, -- acting on the impulse or desire
would then lead to sin
.

None of this addresses what leads to the taking on of these spirits/demons, which I
believe I have addressed [albeit briefly] in the thread [Re: Why do problems exist?]
linked below:

What's your take on this folks? -- think it over a while.

* Suffering exists

* Suffering has a cause

* Suffering is caused by: Ignorance or arrogance, leading to
* our reaction to flesh (senses and mind) - ID
* our desire and craving to satisfy the flesh and the mind -- materialism,
worldliness, sensory pleasures, temporal pleasures, emotion -- EGO

* THE GOOD NEWS:

* Suffering can be avoided or overcome by understanding these simple causes of suffering,
and coming to a knowledge of the path of Right Living which is denial of self, love of godly
principles put into the mind and action, and the love of others just as Jesus stated. It is --
THE WAY.