Several Questions in Matthew

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1. Matthew 17:20 & 18:19 & 21:22 are impossible. Do you know anyone that can do it? Why did Jesus say we could?

2. Matthew 20:28 Ransom paid to who, the Devil?

3. Matthew 8-10 I call my Daddy "Father" and my teacher "Teacher"

4. Matthew26:50 Jesus called Judas a Devil in John 6:70-71, Why does He call him "Friend"?

5.Matthew 28:17 Why did some of the closest followers of Jesus not recognize HIM at first and why did they doubt?

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1. Matthew 17:20 & 18:19 & 21:22 are impossible. Do you know anyone that can do it? Why did Jesus say we could? Anything is possible through God, whether or not you or I will ever get to this point, that is for God to know and us to find out. Jesus actually never said we would or could, but that IF we did.

2. Matthew 20:28 Ransom paid to who, the Devil? To God, Jesus paid the price required by the Just nature of God.

3. Matthew 8-10 I call my Daddy "Father" and my teacher "Teacher" Really not sure what you are talking about here, but God is our Father and our Teacher. He can be both :p

4. Matthew26:50 Jesus called Judas a Devil in John 6:70-71, Why does He call him "Friend"? He is calling him friend because he was, they spent the better part of three years together. But he was also a devil because he was to betray Jesus and Jesus knew that.

5.Matthew 28:17 Why did some of the closest followers of Jesus not recognize HIM at first and why did they doubt? If you thought someone was dead, and then one who looks like him comes to you would you accept that he is the one you watched with your own eyes die or would you doubt, even just a little bit?

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Stargazing_Pilgrim said:
1. Matthew 17:20 & 18:19 & 21:22 are impossible. Do you know anyone that can do it? Why did Jesus say we could?

2. Matthew 20:28 Ransom paid to who, the Devil?

3. Matthew 8-10 I call my Daddy "Father" and my teacher "Teacher"

4. Matthew26:50 Jesus called Judas a Devil in John 6:70-71, Why does He call him "Friend"?

5.Matthew 28:17 Why did some of the closest followers of Jesus not recognize HIM at first and why did they doubt?

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1.) If a mountain needs to be moved, it will be moved. If there is something two or more people need and ask the Lord for, the Lord will provide it. Whatever you need and ask for in prayer, you will receive, if you have faith.
 
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Stargazing_Pilgrim said:
1. Matthew 17:20 & 18:19 & 21:22 are impossible. Do you know anyone that can do it? Why did Jesus say we could?

2. Matthew 20:28 Ransom paid to who, the Devil?

3. Matthew 8-10 I call my Daddy "Father" and my teacher "Teacher"

4. Matthew26:50 Jesus called Judas a Devil in John 6:70-71, Why does He call him "Friend"?

5.Matthew 28:17 Why did some of the closest followers of Jesus not recognize HIM at first and why did they doubt?

Thanks for any comments.
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2.) Yes, it would seem to me the ransom was paid to the devil.
 
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Stargazing_Pilgrim said:
1. Matthew 17:20 & 18:19 & 21:22 are impossible. Do you know anyone that can do it? Why did Jesus say we could?

2. Matthew 20:28 Ransom paid to who, the Devil?

3. Matthew 8-10 I call my Daddy "Father" and my teacher "Teacher"

4. Matthew26:50 Jesus called Judas a Devil in John 6:70-71, Why does He call him "Friend"?

5.Matthew 28:17 Why did some of the closest followers of Jesus not recognize HIM at first and why did they doubt?

Thanks for any comments.
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Question 3, I believe, refers to the 23rd chapter of Matthew, verses 8-10. Jesus is pointing out that we have one Lord—God in heaven. He is the Father. He is the teacher. It is tempting to call ourselves teachers, but we mustn't do it.
 
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2.) Yes, it would seem to me the ransom was paid to the devil.
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No, to say the ransom was paid to the devil draws a picture that Satan was somehow in charge of hell (movies and society try and convince us of this, but its not true) and Jesus had to pay him off to save people from hell. God is a Just God and thus must punish us for our sins, Jesus paid the ransom for our sins by suffering the penalty of sin and the judgement of God.
 
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Stargazing_Pilgrim said:
1. Matthew 17:20 & 18:19 & 21:22 are impossible. Do you know anyone that can do it? Why did Jesus say we could?

2. Matthew 20:28 Ransom paid to who, the Devil?

3. Matthew 8-10 I call my Daddy "Father" and my teacher "Teacher"

4. Matthew26:50 Jesus called Judas a Devil in John 6:70-71, Why does He call him "Friend"?

5.Matthew 28:17 Why did some of the closest followers of Jesus not recognize HIM at first and why did they doubt?

Thanks for any comments.
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4.) Jesus had treated Judas as a friend, and thus called him “friend.”
 
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Stargazing_Pilgrim said:
1. Matthew 17:20 & 18:19 & 21:22 are impossible. Do you know anyone that can do it? Why did Jesus say we could?

2. Matthew 20:28 Ransom paid to who, the Devil?

3. Matthew 8-10 I call my Daddy "Father" and my teacher "Teacher"

4. Matthew26:50 Jesus called Judas a Devil in John 6:70-71, Why does He call him "Friend"?

5.Matthew 28:17 Why did some of the closest followers of Jesus not recognize HIM at first and why did they doubt?

Thanks for any comments.
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5.) I imagine some of the disciples had not yet developed sufficient faith to fully believe in Jesus.
 
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No, to say the ransom was paid to the devil draws a picture that Satan was somehow in charge of hell (movies and society try and convince us of this, but its not true) and Jesus had to pay him off to save people from hell. God is a Just God and thus must punish us for our sins, Jesus paid the ransom for our sins by suffering the penalty of sin and the judgement of God.
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Satan could torment us eternally because of our sin. When Jesus was crucified after living a sinless life, he “bought” us from Satan. Satan cannot torment us now.
 
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Satan could torment us eternally because of our sin. When Jesus was crucified after living a sinless life, he “bought” us from Satan. Satan cannot torment us now.
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No Satan will be tormented. It is a modern NOT BIBLICAL notion that Satan is in hell torturing and tormenting everyone, the bible is very clear that he will be punished alongside those that don't accept God. He is not in charge and thus has no right to be paid for anything.
 
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No Satan will be tormented. It is a modern NOT BIBLICAL notion that Satan is in hell torturing and tormenting everyone, the bible is very clear that he will be punished alongside those that don't accept God. He is not in charge and thus has no right to be paid for anything.
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But I think Jesus needed to be crucified before this could happen.
 
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But I think Jesus needed to be crucified before this could happen.
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No that's the thing Jesus died to pay for our sins, because God being Just had to exact a penalty for sin. Jesus paid that penalty with his death. Think of it this way if you break a law like the speed limit, there is a fine and that fine must be paid. You are not paying that to yourself as the sinner, but to the government who exacted the penalty.
 
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No that's the thing Jesus died to pay for our sins, because God being Just had to exact a penalty for sin. Jesus paid that penalty with his death. Think of it this way if you break a law like the speed limit, there is a fine and that fine must be paid. You are not paying that to yourself as the sinner, but to the government who exacted the penalty.
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I think it was necessary for Jesus to die. I don't know what word to attach to it. The word used here is "ransomed." I'm okay with that.
 
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I think it was necessary for Jesus to die. I don't know what word to attach to it. The word used here is "ransomed." I'm okay with that.
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Yes of course it was necessary for Jesus to die, but he was not paying satan, but God.

Romans 3:23-25 "23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, 25 whom God set forth as a propitiation by His blood, through faith, to demonstrate His righteousness, because in His forbearance God had passed over the sins that were previously committed,"

We see here that all have sinned and its about the Father sending Jesus to be payment for our sins, so that he might pass over our sins. Otherwise he would have to exact the penalty for sin which is death. Jesus paid the penalty, he ransomed us from our slavery to sin (NOT satan). The new testament says clearly that we were slaves to sin (again not satan) and through Jesus we are freed from that slavery.
 
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Jesus was the fulfillment of the law, where animals were killed and offered to God to pay for the sins of the people of Israel. The NT point out that Jesus is the perfect sacrifice, which is also given to God not satan.
 
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Satan is the god of this world. He knows he is screwed and his only drive is to steer people away from the Truth. Satan can willingly attack people who do not follow Jesus, but has no right to attack those who do follow Jesus. That's why he had to ask permission of the Lord if he could attack Job. Satan only has power over those he deceives.
 
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The sacrifice was by Yeshua to Yahweh for our sin. Thus we can be born again because of our Saviour.

Yahweh loved us from the start and only wanted what is best for us. The corrupt seed since Adam and Eve have been allowing the evil to deceive and lie to us.

The evil plays on everything that Yahweh detests.

Yeshua did none of this and so was able to be the sacrifice for us. We can be born of the good seed through Yeshua overcoming sin.

Yahweh is always in control, he is Almighty, it is only the corrupt part of us that evil can play havoc with.

Once we receive Yeshua through faith in all that the Bible tells us. Can we be born again.

The Holy spirit is our comforter.

The devil is not and never will be in charge, he is lying to whoever is living through their corrupt seed ,and not accepting the way to be redeemed.

Yahweh is offering us a way out, he is offering us salvation through Yeshua.

If you do not accept this, then you are a target for satan to live through you in this world.

If you accept this then Yeshua will overcome evil through you, for you.

Yahweh is merciful and he already had a way out planned for us, but we have to listen and not let any man deceive us. Because that man could be of corrupt
seed.

Yeshua said by the fruits we can see what seed a person is of...

You are either of the new seed offered, or you are of your corrupt seed and evil will deceive you.


The truth is and always was with Yahweh.
Yeshua is the only way to the truth.

Yahweh is not asking us to live and think for ourselves, because he already knows the outcome.
Listen to Yeshua who speaks of Yahweh.
Do not see it as a get out of hell free card, because it is not. Salvation is not through works.

Faith brings work, not work brings Faith.
 
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