Signs and wonders.

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Niki7

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I know the Bible specifically says that the signs are in the heavens, but in my daily life (my daily life is lived on the other six days when things are different because it's not the Sabbath) I've gotten to where I really look at it as actually signage. It's like that song Eve of Destruction by Barry McGuire, evil men shall wax worse and worse. People march in the street protesting and carrying signs for all kinds of things, it devolves easily and rapidly into a riot, and blocks traffic.

Political election signs are no different, really.

Hmmmm

There are signs and then there are signs. We still have the physical for those who have not seen the spiritual

Sometimes people say something without realizing how close they are to the truth. Just brushing it with their fingertips
 

Fundaamental

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Well signs wonders happen to draw people. There was a town where Christ could only lay hands a few and teach because of doubt. If we doubt we will not get anything from God. It has nothing to do with "convincing". The closer you get to Him the more of this you see unless you doubt then you will never see these things. To just look at my self I don't need convincing yet these signs wonders grow and grow greater and greater.. it never gets old you can never get to much of GOD..there is no end to God.

Its stepping out of His way and shhh and just believe. You allow the sweet holy Spirit in every area of your life to have His way...if we tell Him what we believe He can do and not do.. He will step out of your way. Just believe His will which is His word. Its only been a tad over 2 days since Jesus as here.. yeah nothing has change with Him its just ALLOT of cities doubt so they see nothing. Head on over to some 3rd world countries and you will see many signs and wonders happening right now.
It not my fault I got engaged in what appears to be a very difficult subject.

But this isn't about any past argument now.

And I'm not going to post any more Angus Buchans unless people want one. 😊

It's not fault that everything that happens in my dreams come true.

I've been trying to find out if God can set a path for his children via controlling there future until the danger as passed by visiting them in dreams first.

Because everyday I know what's going to happen befor it happens.

I recall having the dreams all the time about future events after they've happened.

Like last week I walked up to a wooded area I had never been to befor crossing over some steal 8 inch square steal posts 20 foot long, I had rocks in my ruck sack, doing training, I then fell into the river underneath.

Losing my car keys and cutting my hands, luckily the water was only 4 feet deep, other wise I would have been a gonner, but I saw the whole thing in a dream, quite a few months earlier.
 
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Niki7

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And I'm not going to post any more Angus Buchans unless people want one
Verily we can find him on youtube ourselves.

I've been trying to find out if God can set a path for his children via controlling there future until the danger as passed by visiting them in dreams first.
Do you own a Bible? Start there. Thing is though, God does not control His children. Are you controlled?
 
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Niki7

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Because everyday I know what's going to happen befor it happens.
Losing my car keys and cutting my hands, luckily the water was only 4 feet deep, other wise I would have been a gonner, but I saw the whole thing in a dream, quite a few months earlier.
If you know what is going to happen every day before it happens, why did you not prevent yourself from the accident you had?
 
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Signs are not important. We need faith and God gives us faith. I often get a godspeed of faith in prayer usually of the scriptures. The holy spirit reminds us what Jesus said according to scripture. Faith pleases God and signs is the opposite of faith. I wouldn't call prophecy a sign. It still requires faith. And the Bible says prophecy is encouraging so of course we need it. But beware of signs cause you cannot tempt God. Just like Jesus refused to show Satan a sign.
 

Fundaamental

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Boasting About Tomorrow
13 Now listen, you who say, “Today or tomorrow we will go to this or that city, spend a year there, carry on business and make money.” 14 Why, you do not even know what will happen tomorrow. What is your life? You are a mist that appears for a little while and then vanishes. 15 Instead, you ought to say, “If it is the Lord’s will, we will live and do this or that.”


Can someone interpret this for me.

In struggling.
 

Fundaamental

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If you know what is going to happen every day before it happens, why did you not prevent yourself from the accident you had?
I don't always know every event that will happen in the day. But every day one event or more will trigger a memory I've had in a dream . But not every event.
 

hornetguy

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Because everyday I know what's going to happen befor it happens.
Well, the Texas lotto is tonight, and our church is just kicking off the second part of our fundraising campaign to build our pre-school.... how 'bout you pass along the numbers to me?
 

Fundaamental

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When is it you were saved exactly?
My mum told me how to invite Jesus into my life when I was 16, she passed away one year later.

I really wanted it but my mum never told me you would be baptised by fire when your born again. I only found that out last year.

For 12 months I've been confused.
On whether I'm saved.
Untill someone told me Baptism by fire means the holy spirit comes and clears your mind.

So all I can remember is I've felt peace since as far back as I can remember, but the baptism of fire is still a mystery to me,

Its like waking up in the morning and wondering what the hec am I doing here,

That's it. I'm not answering anymore of your questions.
 
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pottersclay

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Signs and wonders...hhhhmmmm let me see.

Just in the U.S. alone.

By GODs grace 5 failed cities are on display that the current woke idealism doesnt work.

California having a terrible weather problem...just passing bills for trangender protection and declares its self a refuge state for the lgbtqplus people....check out there kidnap proction act that says if a child is having thoughts on a sex change anyone can transport siad child to california..... on line stranger, family member and not be charged as a kidnapper

Chicago....quite a violent weekend there as teens dont like to be in the company of adults.

Israel ....preparing for war which is most certain to happen.

Florida....hit with a rainstorm never seen before.

Tip of the iceberg friends..and its just beginning. Personally I am excited to see this, heart broke why it has to happen.

Signs and wonders all around us and some say relax ...this also will pass...nope.
 
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Niki7

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My mum told me how to invite Jesus into my life when I was 16, she passed away one year later.

I really wanted it but my mum never told me you would be baptised by fire when your born again. I only found that last year.

For 12 months I've been confused.
On whether I'm saved.
Untill someone told me Baptism by fire means the holy spirit comes and clears your mind.

So all I can remember is I've felt peace since as far back as I can remember, but the baptism of fire is still a mystery to me,

It like waking up in the morning and wondering what the hec am I doing here,

That's it. I'm not answering anymore of your questions.

You really wanted 'it'?

You don't have to answer any of my questions but you do have to answer to God. God does not confuse those who belong to Him
 
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Niki7

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Florida....hit with a rainstorm never seen before.
Um.....so hurricanes, tornadoes and waterspouts are just what then?

Please do actual research. Hurricanes are the worst natural disasters FL has had and they come complete with winds that can reach greater than 155 mph. Really.

See, when people exaggerate to make a point they feel should be made, it is best not to offer false 'proof'
 

Blain

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Didnt Jesus say something to the effect of, a perverse generation seeks a sign but none will be given.

We have a sign, is called the scripture, which is the witness of Christ. We also have that the things he said came to pass. He warned his disciples of the pending doom and it happened as he predicted 40 years later in 70 ad. It is the historical record of his true witness.
The word of God is not a sign that is in incorrect way to put it it is the mouth breathed word of God the word of truth the bible but not a sign

Also what the op is trying to explain is exactly what I have been saying he is now calling us into deeper waters with him a higher and deeper position with him and notice the word position there is sadly the truth that we as the church as the body of Christ we who are said to be the salt of the world have forgotten who we are as his children his servants his ambassadors and who he is as well.

It's not about the signs and wonders that come with it or the realm of making the impossible just possible it is about a call to a much closer more in truth relationship like your graduating to a higher position with him

The bible is the word of God but who is is called the word? Jesus. he is also called the way the truth and the light.

Studying the scripture is good but only seems to have gotten us so far if you look at the state of the church we study and learn and grow but what if the bible is more of a jumping point to when your ready for the real thing and for the real deeper things of God you turn your focus to Jesus himself but he is going to require your absolute surrender to him he isn't playing around when it comes to this it's not something you can try to interprete or eason to fit your understanding or doctrine if he teaches or shows you something that is it he has spoken no adding what you think it means no taking it into consideration his word is law.


the truth is not for the studious it is for those whose resolve for the truth is absolute then he will begin open your eyes then he be real not just someone you pray to or talk to and read about and worship and say you have an actual relationship with him no I mean he changes you you have him in you aware even at your lowest state that he is there like keenly aware he interacts with you in your daily life in different ways it is like he literally walks with you in a real sense and you can actually tell he is there.

This is just the beginning butit is a good step in the direction.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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The word of God is not a sign that is in incorrect way to put it it is the mouth breathed word of God the word of truth the bible but not a sign

Also what the op is trying to explain is exactly what I have been saying he is now calling us into deeper waters with him a higher and deeper position with him and notice the word position there is sadly the truth that we as the church as the body of Christ we who are said to be the salt of the world have forgotten who we are as his children his servants his ambassadors and who he is as well.

It's not about the signs and wonders that come with it or the realm of making the impossible just possible it is about a call to a much closer more in truth relationship like your graduating to a higher position with him

The bible is the word of God but who is is called the word? Jesus. he is also called the way the truth and the light.

Studying the scripture is good but only seems to have gotten us so far if you look at the state of the church we study and learn and grow but what if the bible is more of a jumping point to when your ready for the real thing and for the real deeper things of God you turn your focus to Jesus himself but he is going to require your absolute surrender to him he isn't playing around when it comes to this it's not something you can try to interprete or eason to fit your understanding or doctrine if he teaches or shows you something that is it he has spoken no adding what you think it means no taking it into consideration his word is law.


the truth is not for the studious it is for those whose resolve for the truth is absolute then he will begin open your eyes then he be real not just someone you pray to or talk to and read about and worship and say you have an actual relationship with him no I mean he changes you you have him in you aware even at your lowest state that he is there like keenly aware he interacts with you in your daily life in different ways it is like he literally walks with you in a real sense and you can actually tell he is there.

This is just the beginning butit is a good step in the direction.
Gnostic drivel.
The problem with the churches that are so far off base is that they left scripture for their own vain imaginations.
 
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i never believed in the need to have another encounter with God, aside from the Moment of Transformation during God entering into our hearts and giving us Eternal Salvation. but once you have had that experience, and the luckier ones have more than a handful, you want to have another experience and desire it because when i think back on my 3 times, it really is like an energizer battery and i get really happy in a fast kind of way. just really sparked and motivated. put my baseball cap on that has hand written "Jesus Saves" on it and go shopping so Satan has no choice but to read his favorite Gospel Song :love: ...kind of motivated :sneaky:
 

oyster67

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Hi how are you today. 😊

I believe that some people need more belief and convincing that God is real more than other people do.

This is where God will will show people different signs that he is real. Through miracles through spirits ( misty) through light, through prophecy.

And then it doesn't stop there, the new converts who come to God still need convincing, and God will again show them something wonderful or something un-explained, that Somebody else would wonder why didn't that happen to me.

Well could it be it was because they didn't need as much convincing. 😊

Because they where not in as much grievance when they came to God. So God had to repeatedly show an individual signs and wonders.
I would agree that Jesus still answers prayers and can do it in miraculous ways if He so chooses, but I also believe that He desires that people initially come by faith, not by shock and awe from miracles.

John 20:29
“Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.”

Jesus initially did many miracles for the reason of verifying His identity as Deity. That was pretty much accomplished by His resurrection and reappearing to many. The Main Doctrine of Jesus' Sonship, Deity, and Divinity has been established at this point. Now is the time to come by and live by faith.
 
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Niki7

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I find it both alarming and amusing that a person would say the Bible is becoming of lessor significances compared to my dreams and visions and I assure you that is actually Christ's goal for each of your lives.

Is it a coincidence that the biggest purveyor of dreams and visions in this forum would have us all just follow him rather than the written word?

So we are told that scripture can only take us so far and now we need to get it together and accept that visions and personal experience is the way that God has been telling us all along is what He actually had in mind.

“And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world? And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.” Matthew 24: 3-5


For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect. Matthew 24:24

Do not listen to those who falsely proclaim that signs and wonders (also known as miracles) are the way to know God or that those who perform them are godly. They are not godly and are not sent by God. Christians, that is those who have accepted Jesus as their Savior, may actually experience the Holy Spirit working through them and will see the spiritual gifts in operation BUT that is not what the op is talking about.

Lies are easy to spot when you study the Bible and renew your mind according to that book and turn from sin and believe what God says. We renew our minds by agreeing with the Bible. This simply means agree with what God says in His word so that you can refute the lies and the lying signs and wonders.

Know what is real and you will not be fooled by demonic spirits ushering in an age of false miracles.

Since the Bible actually tells us to study to show ourselves approved to God, how is it that now that word should be supplanted by personal experience because a deceived individual believes they are a prophet to the world. The Bereans were commended for searching out the truth in scripture, but we should just forget about all that and allow our minds to be overcome by teaching spirits that Jesus warned us about.

I know some realize how serious this conversation is and reading a post that indicates the Bible is just a starting point and we should have open dreams and visions and interpretations without discernment.

The devil would like nothing better than if we all just tossed our Bibles and became our very own little gods. That is exactly what you become when you refuse correction, and believe the Bible is just a stumbling block that impedes the expansion of your own visions and dreams that you believe have global influence.

Truth:

Psalms 119:11 - Thy word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against thee.

Psalms 119:105 - Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path.

2 Timothy 3:16 - All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

Romans 15:4 - For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.

Hebrews 4:12 - For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
 
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Niki7

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The word of God is not a sign that is in incorrect way to put it it is the mouth breathed word of God the word of truth the bible but not a sign

Also what the op is trying to explain is exactly what I have been saying he is now calling us into deeper waters with him a higher and deeper position with him and notice the word position there is sadly the truth that we as the church as the body of Christ we who are said to be the salt of the world have forgotten who we are as his children his servants his ambassadors and who he is as well.

It's not about the signs and wonders that come with it or the realm of making the impossible just possible it is about a call to a much closer more in truth relationship like your graduating to a higher position with him

The bible is the word of God but who is is called the word? Jesus. he is also called the way the truth and the light.

Studying the scripture is good but only seems to have gotten us so far if you look at the state of the church we study and learn and grow but what if the bible is more of a jumping point to when your ready for the real thing and for the real deeper things of God you turn your focus to Jesus himself but he is going to require your absolute surrender to him he isn't playing around when it comes to this it's not something you can try to interprete or eason to fit your understanding or doctrine if he teaches or shows you something that is it he has spoken no adding what you think it means no taking it into consideration his word is law.


the truth is not for the studious it is for those whose resolve for the truth is absolute then he will begin open your eyes then he be real not just someone you pray to or talk to and read about and worship and say you have an actual relationship with him no I mean he changes you you have him in you aware even at your lowest state that he is there like keenly aware he interacts with you in your daily life in different ways it is like he literally walks with you in a real sense and you can actually tell he is there.

This is just the beginning butit is a good step in the direction.

The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever. Isaiah 40:8

So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it. Isaiah 55:11

Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. John 5:39

Now who is the person who opposes God Himself who has said in His word to us that His word will never fade but will stand forever? Who is so insolent, proud and self righteously proclaiming that their personal experience has now taken the place of the Bible and furthers that sin by saying we all should do as they do?

This is not a joke and no laughing matter.