So...how old is the Earth?

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I do. But I think it could be justified in certain situations.
Ahhh, personal relativity justifies lying, in your opinion?
 

Arel

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Ahhh, personal relativity justifies lying, in your opinion?
I think your question is inflammatory and not in the context of the nature of the thread.





Answer my question and I will answer yours. I know you think this little game of yours will somehow make me forget I asked you a question, but I won't forget. You still need to answer it ;)
 
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I think your question is inflammatory and not in the context of the nature of the thread.





Answer my question and I will answer yours. I know you think this little game of yours will somehow make me forget I asked you a question, but I won't forget. You still need to answer it ;)
I would call it a double dissolution then.
 

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I would call it a double dissolution then.
A what? Speak littler words, please. It's 4 AM here and I haven't slept in two days. The big words are for when my mind is fully functioning.
 
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A what? Speak littler words, please. It's 4 AM here and I haven't slept in two days. The big words are for when my mind is fully functioning.
Then get some sleep.
 
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Originally Posted by Arel

Dispense with the insults for a moment and think, hm? Imagine yourself in the late 1930s, early 1940s. You live in Berlin and are hiding some Jews in your house. The Gestapo comes banging on your door and asks if you are hiding Jews.

What do you do? Do you lie and save the lives of the Jews in your home? Or do you tell the truth and sign their death warrant?


So what you're saying is, you'd send innocents to their death at the hands of ignorant hatemongers just so you don't have to tell a lie.

Herein lies the problem with a religious doctrine that fully omits works. You can do something that is absolutely repugnant and, at its very base, evil...yet still feel good about yourself because you did not have to break any 'rules.'

The God I believe in would **** you for indirectly murdering the innocent at the cost of not telling a lie.
 
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If the bible is correct, it took God just over 6000 years too go from nothing to finish the creation of man and animals. Contrary to what is always taught, God finished on the seventh day, not the sixth. "And on the seventh day God finished his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made." Gen 2:2

The time form Adam until the flood was 1656 years. From the flood until Abraham was 290 years. By adding up the known time values we see that it has been around 6080-6280 years since creation.

If you calculate the burn rate of the sun and place it back on the surface you will find it is impossible for the universe to be in the millions of years old. Outside of biblical history, there is no history of mankind anywhere, not even in science or anthropology.

One day is like a thousand years, I see no reason for the earth to be more than 6300 or so years old. Now for the shocker, from the time that Daniel received his prophecies of the end time until the day of judgment will be seven thousand years. We are about 2500 years into this time frame, which means there is 4500 more years to go until the prophecy is finished.

How's that for a shocker?
 
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I like your reasoning Anrev.

But are you using the year-day principle to interpret biblical prophecy (eg Daniel)? There is no indication that the year-day principle is a key to correctly understanding time-frames in biblical prophecy and it's out-dated method to use. I think your 4500 years to go assessment is completely wrong.
 
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No, my 4500 years to go is not wrong. It is unheard of, but not wrong. The end is being taught that it will happen when Jesus returns, but it will not. There is the millennium, then the release of Satan to go out and deceive the nations again, then the battle of Gog and Magog that Ezekiel talks about in chapter 38 & 39, then all of that is followed by the day of Judgment.

After the day of Judgment will be the eight day that Ezekiel talked about before this earth and all thing parish. No, 4500 is right on with the seven thousand year prophecy, plus the eighth day.

If you take the rate the universe is growing and reverse it, the time element reduces considerable. God made the heavens before he made the earth. The speed which God operates is far greater than we know.

Consider: light travels 186,000 miles per second. The brain thinks three time faster, can God make something that is faster than him? I think not.

Outside of theory, there is not bases to any claim.
 
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Which verse in Daniel do you have that refers to 7000 year prophecy?
 
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From Adam(created in the first week) to Jacobs death: 2253(MTT;SP), 2383(LXX). From his death untill christs birth: Less than 1579. From christs birth untill this year: 2038. The LXX number plus the second plus the third equals: Less than 6000. The earth is less than 6000 years old. I'm still working on the exact number/how long it was from jacob's death until Christ's birth. But less than 6000 will suffice for now.
 
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where do you put the beginning of the 400 years of slavery in egypt? after jacobs death or in the 17 years he was in egypt?
 
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ok from adams creation untill moses' death: 2806. From then untill Christ's birth: less than 1149. From then untill this year: 2038. Total: less than 5992.
 
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ok from adams creation untill moses' death: 2806. From then untill Christ's birth: less than 1149. From then untill this year: 2038. Total: less than 5992.
Assuming no genealogical gaps in Gen 5 to 11, or overlaps.

You also need to convert those years from biblical years to our calender, so 5992*360/365.24 gives you approx. 5906 years in our calender time.
 
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im using biblical years for the whole thing..i also incorporated Caynan(the second one) into it.
 
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im trusting the LXX of genesis based on two witnesses: Luke and Stephen.
 
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So from Moses' death until Christ's birth: ? (less than 1149)
 
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Here is the equation as it stands: 3246+G+120+2038=C

3246=number of years from Adam's creation untill Samson's death.

G=number of years from sampsons death untill the first year of Saul's reign, plus the number of years from Solomon's death untill Jesus Christ's birth. Maximum of 589.

120=number of years that Saul, David and Solomon reigned.

2038=number of years from the birth of Jesus Christ(His coming in the flesh) untill C.

C= Total. Current year. Minimum of 5404, and maximum 5993.
 
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