Some things about the law that need explaining.

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Blik

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You make little sense. If you do not agree with Scripture, your problem is with God.
Scripture is absolute truth, as you and I know. It can be used in an incorrect way as you did.
 

Blik

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Precisely, the old covenant was made with Israel.

Thus, it makes perfect sense that the new covenant will also be made with them in the future, after Christ returns for them.

The nation will need to acknowledge Christ then, just as they acknowledged God in time past in Exodus 24, before the new covenant can be made with them.

For us in the Body of Christ, we are neither the House of Israel nor the House of Judah, as you quoted Jeremiah 31:31 and Hebrews 8:8.

We are saved, not thru the new covenant, but thru Jesus's death burial and resurrection for our sins (1 Cor 15:1-4)
The new covenant, if you will please read it, it not in the future. You are misquoting scripture to say that, scripture is truth. I repeat Jeremiah 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

If you won't acknowledge the old covenant because it was to Israel, then to be consistent you must not acknowledge the new covenant or you decide you can write your own scripture to suit yourself.

We are subject to the new and old covenant as Paul tells us, the Lord sent Paul to be our apostle. But your idea of "Israel only" is false.
 
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The new covenant, if you will please read it, it not in the future. You are misquoting scripture to say that, scripture is truth. I repeat Jeremiah 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

If you won't acknowledge the old covenant because it was to Israel, then to be consistent you must not acknowledge the new covenant or you decide you can write your own scripture to suit yourself.

We are subject to the new and old covenant as Paul tells us, the Lord sent Paul to be our apostle. But your idea of "Israel only" is false.
You should have underlined will instead.

Will is future tense. The nation never accepted Christ during Acts. They even killed Stephen.

So they never got down to telling God like they did in exodus 24 for the old covenant, that they accepted the new covenant.

Surely you know all these?

FYI, Paul never told us that we are under the new covenant, we are able ministers of the New Testament yes, but not new covenant
 

Magenta

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Scripture is absolute truth, as you and I know. It can be used in an incorrect way as you did.
What I did was expound upon another's post by giving the pertinent Scripture.

How you see that as "incorrect" is beyond me, but as I said, you make little sense.

You have a problem, lady, and it is not me. Take it up with God.
 

Blik

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You should have underlined will instead.

Will is future tense. The nation never accepted Christ during Acts. They even killed Stephen.

So they never got down to telling God like they did in exodus 24 for the old covenant, that they accepted the new covenant.

Surely you know all these?

FYI, Paul never told us that we are under the new covenant, we are able ministers of the New Testament yes, but not new covenant
Are you saying that God will make a new covenant with us in the future, but there is now no new covenant? It is only that God will make it?

Scripture tells us the new covenant has been made.
 

Blik

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What I did was expound upon another's post by giving the pertinent Scripture.

How you see that as "incorrect" is beyond me, but as I said, you make little sense.

You have a problem, lady, and it is not me. Take it up with God.
I think this advise you gave me is advice you need to apply to yourself. Your idea of the Lord telling you He took back some of His laws is in error. God is eternal, God's creation is good, all of what God created. That is a fact and no scripture you come up with is in disagreement with this fact. If you think so, you better take it up with your Lord. I don't seem to be able to get through to you.
 
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Are you saying that God will make a new covenant with us in the future, but there is now no new covenant? It is only that God will make it?

Scripture tells us the new covenant has been made.
We are not the House of Israel nor the House of Judah.

Quote the KJV scripture that state it has already been made.
 

Blik

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We are not the House of Israel nor the House of Judah.

Quote the KJV scripture that state it has already been made.
Hebrews 7:22, "Because of this oath, Jesus has become the guarantee of a better covenant."

Hebrews 9:14 Christ is the mediator of a new covenant, that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance—now that He has died as a ransom to set them free from the sins committed under the first covenant."
 
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We are not the House of Israel nor the House of Judah.

Quote the KJV scripture that state it has already been made.
The Bible teach us there is only one bride...Not three brides........
 
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Hebrews 7:22, "Because of this oath, Jesus has become the guarantee of a better covenant."

Hebrews 9:14 Christ is the mediator of a new covenant, that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance—now that He has died as a ransom to set them free from the sins committed under the first covenant."
Those scripture did not say Israel accepted that new covenant

The new covenant is offered to Israel, but she never accepted it
 
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So not everything in the Bible is for the bride?
Well, for one thing, They will not be sitting on 12 thrones judging the 12 tribes of Israel (Matthew 19:28)

So yes not everything in the bible is for the body of Christ
 

soberxp

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Did Jesus change the law when He came?
God never change.
when Jesus came,he was not change The law,but fulfilling of the law.

Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of thelaw.