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JesusLives

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Spring is in the air and I can feel the weather changing. My gardener painted all the wooden frames outside my house this week-end and now it is time to get the swimming pool blue again.

What a pity my American friends are going into winter and we are stuck with summer (said no one ever :) )
I so look forward to Winter....Then again I live in Florida and Winter is Wonderful....
 

Magenta

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Sorry for that super long paragraph up there.
That sounds like a bit of a sticky wicket. However, with both girls progressing into an environment where they will be the among the younger element of the class, hopefully some kind hearted elder soul will take an active interest in your daughter, thereby helping to gracefully remove her from the influence of the other girl, who unfortunately sounds like she has a very difficult home life...
 

mailmandan

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One day day he actually had wild Turkeys follow him all over this neighborhood that has a lot of them, they thought he had food. I said, they thought you were their King.
I can picture that. :p

 

Ahwatukee

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Good morning everyone. :)

And Happy Tuesday to you too MailmanDan! Tuesday is my Friday, so that's another good reason that Tuesday is happy. I have another 3 hours and 15 minutes and I'm off work.
 

Fenner

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That sounds like a bit of a sticky wicket. However, with both girls progressing into an environment where they will be the among the younger element of the class, hopefully some kind hearted elder soul will take an active interest in your daughter, thereby helping to gracefully remove her from the influence of the other girl, who unfortunately sounds like she has a very difficult home life...

She he does have a difficult home life. I just hope she doesn't start with the rude behavior again with my Daughter. They'll be playing and she'll say stuff like, I'm bored with you and walk away, among other things. I'm just hoping for a better school year.
 
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Fenner

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Back to the vet with the doc again today. She has some allergies and was on a medication for it, she stopped itching we finished the medication 2 days ago she's itching again. I could hear her most of the night. I gave her a Benadryl, she's finally sound asleep, poor girl.
 

Fenner

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Well I got some bad news today. The young friend of my Daughters, Mother told me that the Father of the girl (they aren't married) hit her, the Mom not the daughter. Occasionally we text and we're friendly. I didn't see her at the school open house so I wanted to let her know who her teacher will be so she knows where to go on Thursday. Anyhow the Mom called the police and didn't make him leave because of a custody agreement they had when they were separated. The Father although he's from Iraq has made a lot of connections here in town and the good old boy network protects him. He was actually dating a woman who worked in the domestic issues office when they were separated, if that's not a conflict of interest the I don't know what one is. So she is contacting her lawyer again. Anyhow please pray for them. He actually said to his oldest daughter that he should cut her mouth off.

He is very unstable. It's terrible.
 

Fenner

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The police didn't make him leave, the mom wanted him to leave. Just clarifying.
 

Magenta

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I am so sorry to hear that, Fenner :( I was thinking about this woman this morning, wondering if you could talk to her and realizing you may have to treat the situation quite delicately, but she surely must know by now what kind of horror possibly lies ahead of her being involved with such a man. The police are not doing their job! My God, if he is making that kind of threat against his own children and physically abusing the mother, if the mother wants him to leave the premises, he should be escorted out, to begin with. Criminal charges should follow. She really needs to start making plans to permanently remove her and her children from the presence of this kind of abuse, which will surely escalate. To his ways of thinking he has every right to treat them the way he does.

Six translations of Qur'an 4:34:

"Men are superior to women on account of the qualities with which God has gifted the one above the other, and on account of the outlay they make from their substance for them. Virtuous women are obedient, careful, during the husband's absence, because God has of them been careful. But chide those for whose refractoriness you have cause to fear; remove them into beds apart, and scourge them: but if they are obedient to you, then seek not occasion against them: verily, God is High, Great!" (Rodwell's version of the Koran, Quran, 4:34)

"Men have authority over women because God has made the one superior to the other, and because they spend their wealth to maintain them. Good women are obedient. They guard their unseen parts because God has guarded them. As for those from whom you fear disobedience, admonish them and send them to beds apart and beat them. Then if they obey you, take no further action against them. Surely God is high, supreme." (Dawood's version of the Koran, Quran, 4:34

"Men are in charge of women, because Allah has made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah has guarded. As for those from whom you fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them. Then if they obey you, seek not a way against them. Lo! Allah is ever High Exalted, Great." (Pickthall's version of the Koran, Quran, 4:34)

"Men are the managers of the affairs of women for that God has preferred in bounty one of them over another, and for that they have expended of their property. Righteous women are therefore obedient, guarding the secret for God's guarding. And those you fear may be rebellious admonish; banish them to their couches, and beat them. If they then obey you, look not for any way against them; God is All high, All great." (Arberry's version of the Koran, Quran, 4:34)

"Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in their sleeping places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great. (Shakir's version of the Koran, Quran, 4:34)

"Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband's) absence what Allah would have them guard. As to those women on whom part you fear disloyalty and ill conduct, admonish them (first), (next), refuse to share their beds, (and last) beat them (lightly); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them means (of annoyance) for Allah is Most High, Great (above you all). (Ali's version of the Koran, Quran, 4:34)
 

Fenner

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Her Mom and I have always been friendly. She and I talked last school year when her daughter was doing the things she was doing. I tried to be as delicate as possible and we had a good conversation about it. I had her son in my preschool class last year. He was a sweet kid. He missed a lot of school, I hope he doesn't miss as much Kindergarten, but with all of th kid's in the same school now I don't see that happening.


She the Mom, my friend is a RN and she was working last year second shift. But when she was gone there was so much chaos that she ended up leaving her job. He would tell their son, I will be mean to you when your Mother isn't here. I guess that was his way into scaring him in to behaving himself. Now that the son will be at kindergarten all day and the school has reliable childcare before and after school, she's going back to work.

I heard first hand the gossip that he spread about her when they were seperated. A gossipy woman that happened to be at the carpool line at the same time as me would walk with me while we waited for the kid's to be dismissed. I get out of work around 1 and go get the dog and walk her before I pick them up. Anyhow she for some reason told me that he told her that when they were seperated she went to NYC and slept around and partied. I said no, he's a pathological liar bad person who's trying to smear her name. I was in contact with her through much of their separation. He was telling the kid's to sneak out of the house and runaway. She didn't love them anymore and that they should hit her when she's driving so they can come back to him. My Daughter came home one day and told me that her friend said her Mom was mean now. In my preschool class their son would make comments like, my Mom doesn't love me anymore I don't want to go see her. A few of us heard that not just once. It was deplorable behavior. I did tell her if I could help by testifying in court I would. I have no recorded or written proof, so I don't what good it would do.

He's a really bad person and these kid's are stuck for now in this awful religion that expects women to put up and shut up and it makes me sick.
 

Magenta

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Character witnesses are often called in court cases, though I am not sure what the end result of any of it would be if you had never heard first hand from his very own mouth any of the threats, or witnessed any abuse. Still, just letting her know you could stand as a witness to her good character would surely be a comfort to her at this time. She is in a very difficult situation. The chances that this guy has no scruples at all in the matter are quite high; he is simply bent on turning his children against their mother and he may at some point try to abduct them and take them to Iraq. This sort of thing has happened a lot, and it is an unmitigated tragedy every single time.