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Isdaniel

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Elin said:
I've already covered this with you in post #146 here.
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you have hmmm well keep on sunday worship hmm always remember God is a trinity do you know the devil has a trinity also

God has a throne well you get the picture

God has His day of worship the devil has his day of worship


What does this verse mean to you
Daniel 7:25

King James Version (KJV)

25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out thesaints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.


24 Behold, the Lord maketh the earth empty, and maketh it waste, and turneth itupside down, and scattereth abroad the inhabitants thereof.
2 And it shall be, as with the people, so with the priest; as with the servant, so with his master; as with the maid, so with her mistress; as with the buyer, so with the seller; as with the lender, so with the borrower; as with the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him.
3 The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the Lord hath spoken this word.
4 The earth mourneth and fadeth away, the world languisheth and fadeth away, the haughty people of the earth do languish.
5 The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they have transgressed the laws, changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant.
6 Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate: therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men left.


 
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Psalm 94:12; Psalm 94:20 (King James Version)

Psalm 94:12

King James Version (KJV)

12 Blessed is the man whom thou chastenest, O Lord, and teachest him out of thy law;

Psalm 94:20

King James Version (KJV)

20 Shall the throne of iniquity have fellowship with thee, which frameth mischief by a law?






 
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Isdaniel said:
dear Elin you said no earlier in some post then when i shew you were wrong
you shew me the same scripture i used to shew your error
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I have no idea what you are talking about.
Please be more specific.

Why will God shew him the patern on the mout at the same time
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Moses ascended the mountain five different times from Ex 19:3 to Ex 24:9.

God gave him the pattern for the tabernacle on his fifth trip up there.

did it take years to build the tabernacle
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Not it did not.

God showed him the pattern and it was built within the same year.

to do animal or sacrifies you said it was given in leviticus hmm exoodus is before leviticus and the tabernacle was buildt before that is it only in leviticus the animal sacrifices started

Just asking
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That's more like it.

did they do animal sacrifices before that the book of leviticus
and Moses was rehersing whatt God had said in leviticus
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No, the book of Leviticus was given immediately after the tabernacle was built.

God didn't give instructions for offering sacrifice and didn't ordain the Levitical priesthood until there was a tabernacle in which to perform it all.

The book of Leviticus is thought to cover about one month.
 
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Elin said:
I have no idea what you are talking about.
Please be more specific.


Moses ascended the mountain five different times from Ex 19:3 to Ex 24:9.

God gave him the pattern for the tabernacle on his fifth trip up there.


Not it did not.

God showed him the pattern and it was built within the same year.

That's more like it.


No, the book of Leviticus was given immediately after the tabernacle was built.

God didn't give instructions for offering sacrifice and didn't ordain the Levitical priesthood until there was a tabernacle in which to perform it all.

The book of Leviticus is thought to cover about one month.
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So when Alter and stuff were built and the blood that Moses spikiled what was that

Was ther a tabernacle for Abel
 
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Isdaniel said:
In the 40 yrs in the wilderness what year was the book of leviticus given ?
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It was given within the year before the 40 years in the wilderness.

The 40 years in the wilderness did not begin until Nu 14:32-35, after Leviticus was given.

Then at Nu 14:32-35, they were in the wilderness for 40 years til Nu 20.
 
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Elin said:
It was given within the year before the 40 years in the wilderness.

The 40 years in the wilderness did not begin until Nu 14:32-35, after Leviticus was given.

Then at Nu 14:32-35, they were in the wilderness for 40 years til Nu 20.
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How many year was it that it took for all the wicked to die in the wilderness ?
 
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hmm you really dont understand you said i said all the five books is the ceremonial law I said sections of the book there are dietry laws civil laws stc inth same bokks in smaller sections thus i asked if you did not see i said in the post large sections of the books not tje whole book
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Please give m the number of that post that I may review it.
 
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I give up. . .what?
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Try and answer it because yiur quote the verse already hmmm that is how you read hmm interesting

What colour were the tables of stone the ten commandment were written on ?
 
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Please give m the number of that post that I may review it.
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thasts why i said you should read it hmmm for me to go look for that now hmm well thats a task isnt it
 
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Elin said:
Please give m the number of that post that I may review it.
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.post #245

Originally Posted by Isdaniel

What is the Ceremonial Law?

When Godled
the children of Israel out of Egyptian bondage, He delivered to them in fiery majesty the Ten Commandments. This Holy law was spoken by God, written by God, recorded on tables of stone, and is of eternal duration.

At the same time the ceremonial law, of temporary usage, was also delivered to the children of Israel. This law dealt with the ceremonial rites of the Jewish sanctuaryservice
, and concerned itself with a system of religion that passed away at the cross. Large sections of Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy describe in detail this temporary law.



And Leviticus includes not only the sacrificial laws of the sanctuary, but also the food laws and the purification laws not associated with the sanctuary.


The ceremonial law can easily be identified in scripture. It talks aboutcircumcision (areligious Jewish
rite), sacrifices, offerings, purifications, holy days and other rites associated with the Hebrew sanctuary service.


It also talks about food laws and purification laws not associated with the sanctuary service.

You should know this.​



correction 4 books not five
 
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colour of the tables of stone and why this colour lets see think spiritually Elin

exodus 24:10-12

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10 And they saw the God of Israel: and there was under his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were the body of heaven in his clearness.
11 And upon the nobles of the children of Israel he laid not his hand: also they saw God, and did eat and drink.
12 And the Lord said unto Moses, Come up to me into the mount, and be there: and I will give thee tables of stone, and a law, and commandments which I have written; that thou mayest teach them.



Sapphire is a saturated shade of blue, referring to the gem of the same name. Sapphire gems are most commonly found in a range of blue shades. Other names for variations of the color sapphire are blue sapphire or sapphire blue, shown below.



hmmmmmmm

Numbers 15:38Speak unto the children of Israel, and bid them that they make them fringes in the borders of their garments throughout their generations, and that they put upon the fringe of the borders a ribband of blue:

  • Ezekiel 1:26And above the firmament that was over their heads was the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of a sapphire stone: and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness as the appearance of a man above upon it.

  • Ezekiel 10:1Then I looked, and, behold, in the firmament that was above the head of the cherubims there appeared over them as it were a sapphire stone, as the appearance of the likeness of a throne.


 
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Elin

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Isdaniel said:
What does this means Elin Ac 7:53 - Who have received the law by the disposition of angels, and have not kept it.

Did angels give the ten commandments or God himself
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Well, we find nowhere in the OT that Moses was given the law by angel mediation.

Like what we find in 2Tim 3:8 regarding the names of the Egyptian court magicians
who opposed Moses, which also is found nowhere in the OT,
both Ac 7:53 and 2Tim 3:8 are based in Jewish tradition.

However, what we do find is that God came to Mt Sinai attended by myriads of angels (Dt 33:2).

This is the problem in trying to be specific about the angels giving the law.

And what law is that by the angels ? was it the ten on stones ?
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If we accept Jewish tradition, then Moses was given the laws of Ex 20:1 to Ex 24:3,
which are moral (Ten Commandments) and civil laws, not ceremonial laws, on Mt Sinai by angel mediation.
 
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Elin

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Isdaniel said:
What does this verse mean to you
Daniel 7:25 King James Version (KJV)

25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out thesaints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.


24 Behold, the Lord maketh the earth empty, and maketh it waste, and turneth itupside down, and scattereth abroad the inhabitants thereof.
2 And it shall be, as with the people, so with the priest; as with the servant, so with his master; as with the maid, so with her mistress; as with the buyer, so with the seller; as with the lender, so with the borrower; as with the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him.
3 The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the Lord hath spoken this word.
4 The earth mourneth and fadeth away, the world languisheth and fadeth away, the haughty people of the earth do languish.
5 The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they have transgressed the laws, changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant.
6 Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate: therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men left.
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It means whatever Daniel says it means.
 
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Elin said:
It means whatever Daniel says it means.
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hmmm interesting hmmm you should research it yourself and tell me what you come up with it is one verse that pastors hide from their congregation hmm here is a clue

the first month of the year is not January

hmmm the year has 360days not 365 days

hmmm look it up in the bible
 
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Elin said:
Well, we find nowhere in the OT that Moses was given the law by angel mediation.

Like what we find in 2Tim 3:8 regarding the names of the Egyptian court magicians
who opposed Moses, which also is found nowhere in the OT,
both Ac 7:53 and 2Tim 3:8 are based in Jewish tradition.

However, what we do find is that God came to Mt Sinai attended by myriads of angels (Dt 33:2).

This is the problem in trying to be specific about the angels giving the law.



If we accept Jewish tradition, then Moses was given the laws of Ex 20:1 to Ex 24:3,
which are moral (Ten Commandments) and civil laws, not ceremonial laws, on Mt Sinai by angel mediation.
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what is exodus 23:14 to 23 Ex 24:1-8 Hebrews 9:19-21 about what law is this ? the feast days are part of what law
 
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Elin

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Isdaniel said:
So when Alter and stuff were built and the blood that Moses spikiled what was that
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That was enactment of a covenant with blood, as we find in Ge 15:9-21, 17:13-14,
as well as Ex 24:5-6, 8.

Was ther a tabernacle for Abel
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No, they built their own altars and offered burnt offerings, until Lev 17 when God limited all sacrifices to the tabernacle only, and to be offered by the priests only.

Anyone who disobeyed was put to death.
 
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Isdaniel said:
Try and answer it because yiur quote the verse already hmmm that is how you read hmm interesting

What colour were the tables of stone the ten commandment were written on ?
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I've been told they were blue (sapphire).
 
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