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Does this mean that the tables of stone are written on our hearts by the Holy Spirit ?
2 Corinthians 3

King James Version (KJV)

3 Do we begin again to commend ourselves? or need we, as some others, epistles of commendation to you, or letters of commendation from you?
2 Ye are our epistle written in our hearts, known and read of all men:
3 Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.
4 And such trust have we through Christ to God-ward:
5 Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God;
6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
This will help clear it up yet many say the law has been done away

[h=3]Hebrews 8:10-11[/h]King James Version (KJV)

10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.

 
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Ceremonial Law

1. Was spoken by Moses (Deuteronomy 1:1-6).

2. Was written by Moses “in a book” (Deuteronomy 31:24).

3. Was “not good” (Ezekiel 20:25).

4. Was a law “by which they could not live” (Ezekiel 20:25).

5. “Made nothing perfect” (Hebrews 7:19).

6. He “abolished” it (Ephesians 2:15).

7. He took it “out of the way” at Christ’s death (Colossians 2:14).

8. Was only “added … till,” and passed away, when the Seed came (Galatians 3:19).

9. Of the other, the apostle said, “We gave no such commandment” that ye should “keep the law” (Acts 15:24).

10. Was a “yoke of bondage” (Galatians 5:1).

11. “Was our tutor to bring us to Christ” (Galatians 3:24-25).

12. Is “the law of a fleshly commandment” (Hebrews 7:16).

13. Is “enmity” “against us” and “contrary to us” (Ephesians 2:15; Colossians 2:14).

14. Was the “handwriting of requirements” (Colossians 2:14).

15. Was “appointed through angels by the hand of a mediator” (Galatians 3:19).

16. Is “the law of commandments contained in ordinances” (Ephesians 2:15), “a shadow of good things to come” (Hebrews 10:1), and was disannulled “because of its weakness and unprofitableness” (Hebrews 7:18).

The Bible Home Instructor
That is not even close to correct.

It should be ignored.
 
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Did not Jesus magnify the old for us to see the spiritual side of the old ?

[h=3]Isaiah 42:21[/h]King James Version (KJV)

21 The Lord is well pleased for his righteousness' sake; he will magnify the law, and make it honourable.



to make see clearer and bigger


 
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That is not even close to correct.

It should be ignored.

Shew that it is wrong then i dare you please shew


God spoke the ten to al the aseembly whereas He spoke the rest to Moses so that Moses could relay the message

[h=3]Deuteronomy 10[/h]King James Version (KJV)

1 At that time the Lord said unto me, Hew thee two tables of stone like unto the first, and come up unto me into the mount, and make thee an ark of wood.
2 And I will write on the tables the words that were in the first tables which thou brakest, and thou shalt put them in the ark.
3 And I made an ark of shittim wood, and hewed two tables of stone like unto the first, and went up into the mount, having the two tables in mine hand.
4 And he wrote on the tables, according to the first writing, the ten commandments, which the Lord spake unto you in the mount out of the midst of the fire in the day of the assembly: and the Lord gave them unto me.
5 And I turned myself and came down from the mount, and put the tables in the ark which I had made; and there they be, as the Lord commanded me.



dear Elin Where was the sacrificial law place and what was it written on please prove by bible ?
 
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The following facts show the manifest distinction between the moral and the ceremonial laws:

Moral Law

1. Was spoken by God. (Deuteronomy 4:12).

2. Was written by God on “tables of stone” (Exodus 24:12).

3. Was “just, ““true,” and “good” (Nehemiah 9:13).

4. Was a law, “which, if a man does, he shall live by them” (Ezekiel 20:11, 13, 21).

5. Was a “perfect” law, (Psalms 19:7).

6. Christ “did not come to destroy” it (Matthew 5:17).

7. He came to “exalt” it and make it “honorable” (Isaiah 42:21).

8. Every “jot” and “little” of this shall stand “till heaven and earth pass away” (Matthew 5:18).

9. Of this, Christ says, “Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven” (Matthew 5:19).

10. Was a “law of liberty” (James 2:12).

11. Is “established” through faith in Christ (Romans 3:31).

12. “Is spiritual” (Romans 7:14).

13. Is “holy,” and “good” (Romans 7:12).

14. Was “written with the finger of God,” and is called the “royal law” (Exodus
31:18; James 2:8).

15. Was proclaimed by Jehovah Himself “and He added no more” (Deuteronomy
5:22).

16. Is the “commandments of God,” which are brought to view in the third angel’s message (Revelation 14:12), and which will insure to those who observe them a “right to the tree of life” (Revelation 22:14).
Not all of these are correct either; e.g., 6, 8, 10. . .
 
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Did not Jesus magnify the old for us to see the spiritual side of the old ?
Jesus magnified the law by living and then dying in penalty for our sin according to it.

The "spiritual" side of the law is what Jesus showed in Mt 22:37-40.
 
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Elin said:
Any Psalm or Proverb based in observance of the Mosaic ceremonial law.

I don't understand why my responses on the Mosaic law are generating questions about Proverbs and Psalms.

All Scripture is to be understood in the light of what is spoken by the Son in these last days (Heb 1:1-2) through the NT writers.
What about pslam 119 ?
The same applies: all Scripture is to be understood. . .

Whatever refers to the moral law is to be understood in Jesus explanation of law (Mt 22:37-40).

Whatever refers to the ceremonial law is fulfilled in Jesus and now no longer applicable.
 
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Jesus magnified the law by living and then dying in penalty for our sin according to it.

The "spiritual" side of the law is what Jesus showed in Mt 22:37-40.

He magnified the law by saying that to hate in the heart is murder not just the outward act or the letter of the law
 
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Isdaniel said:
Ceremonial Law

1. Was spoken by Moses (Deuteronomy 1:1-6).


2. Was written by Moses “in a book” (Deuteronomy 31:24).

3. Was “not good” (Ezekiel 20:25).

4. Was a law “by which they could not live” (Ezekiel 20:25).

5. “Made nothing perfect” (Hebrews 7:19).

6. He “abolished” it (Ephesians 2:15).

7. He took it “out of the way” at Christ’s death (Colossians 2:14).

8. Was only “added … till,” and passed away, when the Seed came (Galatians 3:19).

9. Of the other, the apostle said, “We gave no such commandment” that ye should “keep the law” (Acts 15:24).

10. Was a “yoke of bondage” (Galatians 5:1).

11. “Was our tutor to bring us to Christ” (Galatians 3:24-25).

12. Is “the law of a fleshly commandment” (Hebrews 7:16).

13. Is “enmity” “against us” and “contrary to us” (Ephesians 2:15; Colossians 2:14).

14. Was the “handwriting of requirements” (Colossians 2:14).

15. Was “appointed through angels by the hand of a mediator” (Galatians 3:19).

16. Is “the law of commandments contained in ordinances” (Ephesians 2:15), “a shadow of good things to come” (Hebrews 10:1), and was disannulled “because of its weakness and unprofitableness” (Hebrews 7:18).

The Bible Home Instructor
That is not even close to correct.

It should be ignored.
Shew that it is wrong then i dare you please shew
I'm not going to exegete half the Bible for you showing how all 16 are wrong.

Pick three, any three, and I will exegete them, and they will have to do as proof for the rest.
Make sure you pick the three you want, because I am not going to do more after I've done those three.

Remember, the above are proof of the ceremonial law, as distinct from the Ten Commandments (moral law).

dear Elin Where was the sacrificial law place and what was it written on please prove by bible ?
If I understand what you are asking, the tabernacle/Temple was the place required by law for sacrifice.

I don't know what you mean by "what was it written on."
 
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He magnified the law
Biblically, to magnify is to make great and glorious.

That he did by living by, and then dying by it to ransom our redemption.

by saying that to hate in the heart is murder not just the outward act or the letter of the law
Would not hate in the heart be covered by the law of love which Jesus gave in Mt 22:37-40?
 
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ok elin fair enough

we shall go with 4 ok

law of God or ten commandment

Was spoken by God. (Deuteronomy 4:12).

2. Was written by God on “tables of stone” (Exodus 24:12). Exodus 10 :1-4
3 Was place inside th ark Deu 10:5
15. Was proclaimed by Jehovah Himself “and He added no more” (Deuteronomy
5:22).

Ceremonial or sacrificial law of Moses

1. Was spoken by Moses t o the children of Israel (Deuteronomy 1:1-6).

2. Was written by Moses “in a book” (Deuteronomy 31:24).

3Was place in the side of the ark Deu 31:26

15. Was “appointed through angels by the hand of a mediator or Moses” (Galatians 3:19).


please note the person who wrote it the placement and the how it was spoken
 
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Elin said:
I'm not going to exegete half the Bible for you showing how all 16 are wrong.

Pick three, any three, and I will exegete them, and they will have to do as proof for the rest.
Make sure you pick the three you want, because I am not going to do more after I've done those three.

Remember, the above are proof of the ceremonial laws, as distinct from the Ten Commandments (moral law).
ok elin fair enough

we shall go with 4 ok

law of God or ten commandment

Was spoken by God. (Deuteronomy 4:12).

2. Was written by God on “tables of stone” (Exodus 24:12). Exodus 10 :1-4
3 Was place inside th ark Deu 10:5
15. Was proclaimed by Jehovah Himself “and He added no more” (Deuteronomy
5:22).

Ceremonial or sacrificial law of Moses

1. Was spoken by Moses t o the children of Israel (Deuteronomy 1:1-6).

2. Was written by Moses “in a book” (Deuteronomy 31:24).

3Was place in the side of the ark Deu 31:26

15. Was “appointed through angels by the hand of a mediator or Moses” (Galatians 3:19).

please note the person who wrote it the placement and the how it was spoken
My offer was for three from the ceremonial laws.
 
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Elin you canot do the ceremonial law alone without shewing the contrast between the two therefore ok lets do two
Shewing they are different one at a time

Was proclaimed by Jehovah Himself to the whole assembley “and He added no more” (Deuteronomy 5:22)


Was spoken by Moses to the children of Israel and was added because of fear on the mount (Deuteronomy 1:1-6) Deu 5:31.


 
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hello elin are you there hmmm truth caught a hold on you hmmm

God spoke the ten to all isarael and then spoke to Moses the other precepts and Moses spoke these to them because the peolpe feared hmmmmm
 
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Ask you self this why did God write the ten commandment on stone twice the only thing writen with the figer of God why
 
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Elin i humbly wait your reply truth cannot and will not lie

[h=3]Exodus 34[/h]King James Version (KJV)

1 And the Lord said unto Moses, Hew thee two tables of stone like unto the first: and I will write upon these tables the words that were in the first tables, which thou brakest.
 
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Still waiting Elin the truth always shine forth hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm i was sure you said you had the proof I was wron why so hesitant to post what you was sure about
 

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Biblically, to magnify is to make great and glorious.
Yet, i keep hearing how it means to do away with.

That he did by living by, and then dying by it to ransom our redemption.
Got some scripture for this? I see in Mat 5, 6 and 7 where He made thoughts and intents much more binding.


Would not hate in the heart be covered by the law of love which Jesus gave in Mt 22:37-40?
And yet we read...

Mat 5:21 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:
Mat 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
Mat 5:23 Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee;
Mat 5:24 Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift.

Jesus Christ taught that hate in the heart violated the sixth Commandment.