Support Israel? Yes or No? And Why?

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Runningman

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When does this take place in the life of a Christian,
before or after you believe in your heart that God raised Jesus from the dead and confess that Jesus is Lord?

Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
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I would say that it is neither before or after that someone is born again, but rather at that exact moment with perfect instancy that someone is born again.

How do I know? Because if you are able to confess Jesus is the Christ come in the flesh (and sincerely believe it of course, not just say the words) then that is proof that your spirit is from God and is therefore born again.

1 John 4:2
2Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:

The question, then, can you confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh?
 
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Runningman said:
I would say that it is neither before or after that someone is born again, but rather at that exact moment with perfect instancy that someone is born again.

How do I know? Because if you are able to confess Jesus is the Christ come in the flesh (and sincerely believe it of course, not just say the words) then that is proof that your spirit is from God and is therefore born again.

1 John 4:2
2Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:

The question, then, can you confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh?
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No, the question is can anyone read in the bible...
Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
And then they say I am going to deceive them and lie to them and say...
I believe and confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:

That is the question?
 
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Runningman said:
I would say that it is neither before or after that someone is born again, but rather at that exact moment with perfect instancy that someone is born again.
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You are wrong again.
 
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Really? The apostles were so conscious of blasphemy, that they ensured they were crucified in a different way than the Lord. Peter for instance demanded to be crucified upside down. I don't like this self-jabbing thing, sorry.
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You assume to much to be true.
 
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No, the question is can anyone read in the bible...
Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
And then they say I am going to deceive them and lie to them and say...
I believe and confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:

That is the question?
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A good faith confession will be done in truth. They may be able to deceive others, but they can't deceive God.
 
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Spiritual Status
Required ......... Are you a Christian?

Christian
not Christian
unsure

As we can see
On the registration page
they ask you this question for their spiritual status question.


Are you a Christian?

And then they give you 3 choices as to how to answer it.

Christian
not Christian
unsure

I cannot say I am a Christian
or not a Christian till they tell me
their qualifications or disqualifications as
to know if I am as they see it a Christian.

Therefore I am unsure of their classification
of myself as according to their doctrine.

The Lord is God and He is my Father.
And don't you forget it.
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this what I call a classic example of one suffering from the narcissism
 
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This may of be of interest to some....

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Yah, took a look. He cites Amos 9. (Well he doesn't cite it, but he references it).

But Amos is addressing Israel, not Judea, and terminates in reference to the reconstruction of David's Tabernacle.
It is not something I've studied, but on the face of it Amos is referring to the return of Israel from captivity rather Judea here,
the logic being that once returned, Israel, (the Samaritans), were never uprooted again.
 
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this what I call a classic example of one suffering from the narcissism
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So tell me, why is the word or term "Christian not written in the book of Revelation?
And is only in the bible 3 times?
 
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So tell me, why is the word or term "Christian not written in the book of Revelation?
And is only in the bible 3 times?
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because the word "Christian" is in the Book of Acts and it means one who follows Christ you do or you don't.

those who deny HIm HE, deny you. Jesus said if you are ashamed of me and deny me before men I will deny you before my Father.
 
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because the word "Christian" is in the Book of Acts and it means one who follows Christ you do or you don't.

those who deny HIm HE, deny you. Jesus said if you are ashamed of me and deny me before men I will deny you before my Father.
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If you disobey a commandment of Christ is that not denying Christ? Do you not deny the truth when you sin?

A. Yes
B. No
C. I do not know
 
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Runningman said:
A good faith confession will be done in truth. They may be able to deceive others, but they can't deceive God.
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Ezekiel 14:9
And if the prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing,
I the LORD have deceived that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand upon him,
and will destroy him from the midst of my people Israel.
 
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If you disobey a commandment of Christ is that not denying Christ? Do you not deny the truth when you sin?

A. Yes
B. No
C. I do not know
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what are the commands of Christ? and if you think you are obeying the "Commands of Christ" yet if you do not know Jesus as your Lord and savior you're not saved.
 
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Ezekiel 14:9
And if the prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing,
I the LORD have deceived that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand upon him,
and will destroy him from the midst of my people Israel.
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I don't really know what your point is by quoting that verse removed from all context because it certainly does not mean what you seem to think it means.

Look, I wasn't trying to argue with you or make you defensive. I also noticed you haven't answered any of my questions, but rather deflected. That's ok. I just wanted you to know that if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord, believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, and confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh (and you really believe it of course) that your spirit is from God.

Here are the verses for you to check out. Be sure to read the context, too: ;)

Romans 10:9
1 John 4:2
 
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what are the commands of Christ? and if you think you are obeying the "Commands of Christ" yet if you do not know Jesus as your Lord and savior you're not saved.
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If you do not obey the commandments of Jesus
then you do not know Jesus as your Lord and savior you're not saved.

I corrected your statement so it would be true for you.
 
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The Children of God are coming to earth very soon.

See, I made the announcement right here to all of you.

It will not be long from now.
 
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And when they come to earth....
They are going to destroy all the works of the children of this world.

Then they are going to open the door for Jesus and their brethren to return.
 
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