The absurdity and heresy of Preterism
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You imply that those who came out of the graves at the death of Jesus experienced a "Ressurection"?
Those that came out of the graves were "Raised From The Dead" just as Lazarus was raised, and they later died physical deaths.
There is "One" future resurrection of all, this takes place on the last day at the final judgement.
Daniel 12:1-2, John 5:28-29, John 6:39-40
Those that came out of the graves were "Raised From The Dead" just as Lazarus was raised, and they later died physical deaths.
There is "One" future resurrection of all, this takes place on the last day at the final judgement.
Daniel 12:1-2, John 5:28-29, John 6:39-40
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Jesus Christ will return in the heavens just as Matthew 24:29-30 states.
Matthew 24:29-30KJV
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Matthew 24:29-30KJV
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
One future resurrection where only SOME of the dead are raised? Notice that it says MANY and not all. How does this fit your future resurrection? Why are some not resurrected?
Dan 12:2 (KJV) And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
Dan 12:2 (KJV) And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
Why don't you go take a look at 2 Timothy 3:16-4:5. Or how about Romans 15:4.
And apparently you know for a fact that there are no churches suffering "as would never happen again in human history" when we know there are believers who are under attack:
That was just last December. Do you think maybe these churches can benefit from reading what was written to "those churches [which] were about to suffer terribly and the whole of christendom was equally suffering as would never happen again in human history"?
I know of a ministry in which pastors go to other countries and counsel Christian men, women and children who have suffered horribly for their faith.
I pray, pray, pray for the believers who are suffering and I also pray, pray, pray for those who go into these areas where horrible atrocities take place to counsel the victims. Because we are talking about some nasty, horribly devilish behavior that the victims have suffered and the counselors now know about the acts of horror. May God comfort these survivors and these counselors and bring His healing to their hearts and minds.
Not just the end of the book.
Can you tell us when this occurred:
Revelation 8:
7 ... and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.
8-9 ... great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood; And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed.
10-11 ... and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters; And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter.
12 ... the third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars; so as the third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise.
When did these events occur?
Why don't you go and explain to believers whose family members have been slaughtered that they have no need of what John wrote to the churches in Rev 2-3 ... that they do not need to hear to him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God (Rev 2:7) because, you know, that really wasn't written to you ...
2 Timothy 3:16-17 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
Since God has given all Scripture ... who are you to say that what is written in Rev is not profitable?
You claiming to have "rightly divided the word of truth" does not mean you actually rightly divided the word of truth.
What is the mark of the beast?
Revelation 13:16-17 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
When did that take place?
Wrong. John wrote of things that have yet to take place.
I have asked you to provide information as to when Rev 8:7-12 was fulfilled and when Rev 13:16-17 was fulfilled.
How many years took place between the time when John wrote and fulfillment of those prophecies?
Again, you may need to re-think your understanding of Greek word τάχει of Rev 1:1.
And apparently you know for a fact that there are no churches suffering "as would never happen again in human history" when we know there are believers who are under attack:
Ten Christians were beheaded and one other was shot dead by an ISIS-linked group in Nigeria in an act designed to coincide with Christmas.
A video recorded before the execution in the war-torn state of Borno shows a group of 12 men and a blurred-out woman pleading for help from Christian organizations and Nigerian President Muhammadu Buhari.
That was just last December. Do you think maybe these churches can benefit from reading what was written to "those churches [which] were about to suffer terribly and the whole of christendom was equally suffering as would never happen again in human history"?
I know of a ministry in which pastors go to other countries and counsel Christian men, women and children who have suffered horribly for their faith.
I pray, pray, pray for the believers who are suffering and I also pray, pray, pray for those who go into these areas where horrible atrocities take place to counsel the victims. Because we are talking about some nasty, horribly devilish behavior that the victims have suffered and the counselors now know about the acts of horror. May God comfort these survivors and these counselors and bring His healing to their hearts and minds.
Not just the end of the book.
Can you tell us when this occurred:
Revelation 8:
7 ... and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.
8-9 ... great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood; And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed.
10-11 ... and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters; And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter.
12 ... the third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars; so as the third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise.
When did these events occur?
Why don't you go and explain to believers whose family members have been slaughtered that they have no need of what John wrote to the churches in Rev 2-3 ... that they do not need to hear to him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God (Rev 2:7) because, you know, that really wasn't written to you ...
2 Timothy 3:16-17 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
Since God has given all Scripture ... who are you to say that what is written in Rev is not profitable?
You claiming to have "rightly divided the word of truth" does not mean you actually rightly divided the word of truth.
What is the mark of the beast?
Revelation 13:16-17 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
When did that take place?
Wrong. John wrote of things that have yet to take place.
I have asked you to provide information as to when Rev 8:7-12 was fulfilled and when Rev 13:16-17 was fulfilled.
How many years took place between the time when John wrote and fulfillment of those prophecies?
Again, you may need to re-think your understanding of Greek word τάχει of Rev 1:1.
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Another Old Testament prophecy of the Old Testament saints being raised from the dead at the time of Jacobs trouble, hidden from the wrath of God until the indignation passes.
Isa 26:19 Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead.
Isa 26:20 Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast.
Isa 26:19 Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead.
Isa 26:20 Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast.
The time of Jacobs trouble, the time when God raises up David (Jesus) their king. The same time that MANY but not all of the Old Testament saints were raised from the dead.
Jer 30:7 Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob's trouble; but he shall be saved out of it.
Jer 30:8 For it shall come to pass in that day, saith the LORD of hosts, that I will break his yoke from off thy neck, and will burst thy bonds, and strangers shall no more serve themselves of him:
Jer 30:9 But they shall serve the LORD their God, and David their king, whom I will raise up unto them.
Jer 30:7 Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob's trouble; but he shall be saved out of it.
Jer 30:8 For it shall come to pass in that day, saith the LORD of hosts, that I will break his yoke from off thy neck, and will burst thy bonds, and strangers shall no more serve themselves of him:
Jer 30:9 But they shall serve the LORD their God, and David their king, whom I will raise up unto them.
"Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will produce its fruit." Jesus
The offspring of Abraham are those who believe, not those born of a certain race biologically.
Israel as a nation is barely mention in the book except that the city Jerusalem is described as extremely wicked, the most wicked city in the world and God destroys it. The remnant of jews, those who believed are redeemed because they believed and washed their robes white in the blood of the lamb.
Towards the end of the book is the marriage of the lamb. The bride is NOT the Jews, but the believers from all nations.
"For the Lord our Godb the Almighty reigns.
7Let us rejoice and be glad
and give Him the glory.
For the marriage of the Lamb has come,
and His bride has made herself ready.
8She was given clothing of fine linen,
bright and pure.”
For the fine linen she wears is the righteous acts of the saints."
No redeemed Israel as a nation. No wife of God anymore. She has been divorced where she could have been and was in a smaller way pivotal in the Kingdom of God.
God took Israel back and took her back and she was unfaithful again and he took her back but he will never take her back as the bride. Now all the sons of Abraham are those who believe, the sons and daughters of the man are the believers, not those of one race.
The offspring of Abraham are those who believe, not those born of a certain race biologically.
Israel as a nation is barely mention in the book except that the city Jerusalem is described as extremely wicked, the most wicked city in the world and God destroys it. The remnant of jews, those who believed are redeemed because they believed and washed their robes white in the blood of the lamb.
Towards the end of the book is the marriage of the lamb. The bride is NOT the Jews, but the believers from all nations.
"For the Lord our Godb the Almighty reigns.
7Let us rejoice and be glad
and give Him the glory.
For the marriage of the Lamb has come,
and His bride has made herself ready.
8She was given clothing of fine linen,
bright and pure.”
For the fine linen she wears is the righteous acts of the saints."
No redeemed Israel as a nation. No wife of God anymore. She has been divorced where she could have been and was in a smaller way pivotal in the Kingdom of God.
God took Israel back and took her back and she was unfaithful again and he took her back but he will never take her back as the bride. Now all the sons of Abraham are those who believe, the sons and daughters of the man are the believers, not those of one race.
The first statment is correct. The second is not. God does not need anything, including men to do wickedness or be unbelieving in order to bless. And it was a Jew writing this and all the major players in the church at the time were Jews so they, at least, were not enemies of God.
If anything the record of Acts shows that that Israel decided to become the enemy of God murdering and beating his children.
If anything the record of Acts shows that that Israel decided to become the enemy of God murdering and beating his children.
Well, Jesus said it would never be that bad again and so I believe Him. That was why I said it. Jesus said so.
That is all true and I myself was involved a bit with christians suffering in China during those days and I commend you for standing with our brethren in prayer.
But you would have to read, perhaps, what happened in Judea in the last years and during 70 AD to see what I mean. Jesus described the days of the vengence of God on Israel and it was worse than anything anyone faces today in unspeakable horror. Those days will never come again. Does not mean there will never be trouble or persecution or sickenss or death. Just means that what happened in Judea in those years as the vengence of God on the nation that crucified his son and killed all the prophets sent to her will never happen again.
You would need to understand the way the Hebrews communicated elsewhere in the Bible and this does not mean literal mountains which is only a catestrophic event in nature. The literal stars and sun and moon did not change either and those descriptures were used in the OT and described as happening or will happen too. This describes the area in Judea which Josephus describes as the Romans marched through and killed so many people that some of the bodies of water turned blood red with all the blood of the dead bodies floating in them. Where you see "earth," it means "land" which is the same word.
Now I can look up the events that Josephus describes but you will just ask me about more events so is there a point? If I find a link that goes through the events in Revelation that fits the descriptions of what happened at that time in Judea, will you read them. I find it so disgusting that I do not look into it if I don't have to do so. I have never liked horror films and this is worse as it really happened.
There is a difference between one family member being killed for their faith and the whole of the church in the world being killed. And every family of believers who experiences one being killed comforts themselves with the scripture. And you snatch one verse out of many.
Please tell me what profit you get out of
"So Judas threw the money into the temple and left. Then he went away and hanged himself. "
What you do not see is that not all scripture is applicable to all believers all the time. I bet you have not heard a sermon where the pastor read one of the letters to a church in revelation, say Thyatira, and say that all those words are written to them and they need to weed you Jezebel as well and identify some in the church who hold to the deep teachings of Satan. From reading your post, I would think that you would expect all those letters to apply to your church at one time or another and the appropriate action ought to be taken.
Under Nero and it was not a tatoo. Even when I believed your position I thought it really unjustice that anyone receiving a particular tatoo was doomed to hell and no hope of repentance offered. They otherwise were not evil but got a government tatoo. I found it strange then.
For him, yes. For us, no. Same as Isaiah 53 was for the author an event what had yet to take place. For us it is past. Within a few years of the writing for as Jesus said, "the time is near." The word for near is ἐγγὺς (engys) and it means near. Yes, it is an adjective. This seems to be vital to some, where the word Jesus used to describe who soon the events are to be expected stands or falls whether the word he used was a noun or an adjective. I have yet to figure out what difference this makes. But what one cannot say is that Jesus was telling John and the reader that when it happens, it happens fast because ἐγγὺς (engys) is near. There are 30 occurances in the Bible and all of them are "at hand" (old English) or "near" which means not 2000 years away.
The fancy Greek footwork which renders "soon" to "quickly" and thereby robbed the verse of giving information (how quickly Jesus completes his journy from Heaven to us it totally unimportant as we are not given a department time so we know an eta) cannot be applied to "near." The time was near to when John received the vision. That is what JEsus said and that is what I am sticking to.
It is not a popular viewpoint and no one derives any movie money or book money for the most part as the "left behind" theory does, but it is growing from what I can see. The freedom and peace of mind and joy that comes from abandoning the "JEsus (and horrible times) are coming soon theory is indescrible. The veil is lifted and one understands Revelation as well as other books and sayings of Jesus. The Bible opens up like never before. But that is just my personal testimony.
That is all true and I myself was involved a bit with christians suffering in China during those days and I commend you for standing with our brethren in prayer.
But you would have to read, perhaps, what happened in Judea in the last years and during 70 AD to see what I mean. Jesus described the days of the vengence of God on Israel and it was worse than anything anyone faces today in unspeakable horror. Those days will never come again. Does not mean there will never be trouble or persecution or sickenss or death. Just means that what happened in Judea in those years as the vengence of God on the nation that crucified his son and killed all the prophets sent to her will never happen again.
You would need to understand the way the Hebrews communicated elsewhere in the Bible and this does not mean literal mountains which is only a catestrophic event in nature. The literal stars and sun and moon did not change either and those descriptures were used in the OT and described as happening or will happen too. This describes the area in Judea which Josephus describes as the Romans marched through and killed so many people that some of the bodies of water turned blood red with all the blood of the dead bodies floating in them. Where you see "earth," it means "land" which is the same word.
Now I can look up the events that Josephus describes but you will just ask me about more events so is there a point? If I find a link that goes through the events in Revelation that fits the descriptions of what happened at that time in Judea, will you read them. I find it so disgusting that I do not look into it if I don't have to do so. I have never liked horror films and this is worse as it really happened.
Why don't you go and explain to believers whose family members have been slaughtered that they have no need of what John wrote to the churches in Rev 2-3 ... that they do not need to hear to him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God (Rev 2:7) because, you know, that really wasn't written to you ...
Please tell me what profit you get out of
"So Judas threw the money into the temple and left. Then he went away and hanged himself. "
What you do not see is that not all scripture is applicable to all believers all the time. I bet you have not heard a sermon where the pastor read one of the letters to a church in revelation, say Thyatira, and say that all those words are written to them and they need to weed you Jezebel as well and identify some in the church who hold to the deep teachings of Satan. From reading your post, I would think that you would expect all those letters to apply to your church at one time or another and the appropriate action ought to be taken.
Under Nero and it was not a tatoo. Even when I believed your position I thought it really unjustice that anyone receiving a particular tatoo was doomed to hell and no hope of repentance offered. They otherwise were not evil but got a government tatoo. I found it strange then.
For him, yes. For us, no. Same as Isaiah 53 was for the author an event what had yet to take place. For us it is past. Within a few years of the writing for as Jesus said, "the time is near." The word for near is ἐγγὺς (engys) and it means near. Yes, it is an adjective. This seems to be vital to some, where the word Jesus used to describe who soon the events are to be expected stands or falls whether the word he used was a noun or an adjective. I have yet to figure out what difference this makes. But what one cannot say is that Jesus was telling John and the reader that when it happens, it happens fast because ἐγγὺς (engys) is near. There are 30 occurances in the Bible and all of them are "at hand" (old English) or "near" which means not 2000 years away.
The fancy Greek footwork which renders "soon" to "quickly" and thereby robbed the verse of giving information (how quickly Jesus completes his journy from Heaven to us it totally unimportant as we are not given a department time so we know an eta) cannot be applied to "near." The time was near to when John received the vision. That is what JEsus said and that is what I am sticking to.
It is not a popular viewpoint and no one derives any movie money or book money for the most part as the "left behind" theory does, but it is growing from what I can see. The freedom and peace of mind and joy that comes from abandoning the "JEsus (and horrible times) are coming soon theory is indescrible. The veil is lifted and one understands Revelation as well as other books and sayings of Jesus. The Bible opens up like never before. But that is just my personal testimony.
Romans 11:28 stands in contrast to Genesis 12:2-3
Genesis 12 had God promising Abraham
“I will make you into a great nation,
and I will bless you;
I will make your name great,
and you will be a blessing.[a]
3 I will bless those who bless you,
and whoever curses you I will curse;
and all peoples on earth
will be blessed through you.”
God promised Abraham that thru that nation coming from him, shall all the gentiles be blessed.
That was why Jesus could heal the Roman Centurion's servant, the centurion blessed Israel by building them a synagogue (Luke 7:5). He could also heal the Canaanite lady's daughter because she was willing to be a puppy that eats the crumbs of the Jewish children's bread.
Jesus was recognizing the promise God made to Abraham.
But once Israel rejected their Messiah, Romans 11:28 clearly stated
As regards the gospel, they are enemies for your sake. But as regards election, they are beloved for the sake of their forefathers.
God had to become an enemy to his previously favored nation, in order for the Gentiles to be blessed.
Genesis 12 had God promising Abraham
“I will make you into a great nation,
and I will bless you;
I will make your name great,
and you will be a blessing.[a]
3 I will bless those who bless you,
and whoever curses you I will curse;
and all peoples on earth
will be blessed through you.”
God promised Abraham that thru that nation coming from him, shall all the gentiles be blessed.
That was why Jesus could heal the Roman Centurion's servant, the centurion blessed Israel by building them a synagogue (Luke 7:5). He could also heal the Canaanite lady's daughter because she was willing to be a puppy that eats the crumbs of the Jewish children's bread.
Jesus was recognizing the promise God made to Abraham.
But once Israel rejected their Messiah, Romans 11:28 clearly stated
As regards the gospel, they are enemies for your sake. But as regards election, they are beloved for the sake of their forefathers.
God had to become an enemy to his previously favored nation, in order for the Gentiles to be blessed.
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Everything it fine and I agree except that last sentence. God never has to become anyone's enemy. He has no need to find an enemy. He has no need to become an enemy. He has no needs at all and did not have to become an enemy to anyone. That Israel made God their enemy is different than God having to make Israel his enemy. I mean come on, God is way bigger than Israel. DO you really think God just needed to become the enemy of anyone in order to do his will? What kind of omnipotence is that that GOd needs to become someone's enemy?
God does not need to become an enemy to anyone. That some choose to make Him their enemy is a different matter.
God does not need to become an enemy to anyone. That some choose to make Him their enemy is a different matter.
I am rather sensitive to people attributing to God something that is not complimentary. God needing an enemy in order to accomplish something is rather insulting to God. I mean you would feel insulted if I said that you needed to make MRS XYZ your enemy in order to accomplish something. It would be better if you would drop saying that about God. It is not true and it is insulting.
Try again...
Jeremiah 31:10,12-13,31-34 NKJV
[10] "Hear the word of the LORD, O nations, And declare it in the isles afar off, and say, 'He who scattered Israel will gather him, And keep him as a shepherd does his flock.' [12] Therefore they shall come and sing in the height of Zion, Streaming to the goodness of the LORD- For wheat and new wine and oil, For the young of the flock and the herd; Their souls shall be like a well-watered garden, And they shall sorrow no more at all. [13] "Then shall the virgin rejoice in the dance, And the young men and the old, together; For I will turn their mourning to joy, Will comfort them, And make them rejoice rather than sorrow.
[31] "Behold, the days are coming, says the LORD, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah- [32] not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, though I was a husband to them, says the LORD. [33] But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the LORD: I will put My law in their minds, and write it on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. [34] No more shall every man teach his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying, 'Know the LORD,' for they all shall know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them, says the LORD. For I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin I will remember no more."
Jeremiah 31:10,12-13,31-34 NKJV
[10] "Hear the word of the LORD, O nations, And declare it in the isles afar off, and say, 'He who scattered Israel will gather him, And keep him as a shepherd does his flock.' [12] Therefore they shall come and sing in the height of Zion, Streaming to the goodness of the LORD- For wheat and new wine and oil, For the young of the flock and the herd; Their souls shall be like a well-watered garden, And they shall sorrow no more at all. [13] "Then shall the virgin rejoice in the dance, And the young men and the old, together; For I will turn their mourning to joy, Will comfort them, And make them rejoice rather than sorrow.
[31] "Behold, the days are coming, says the LORD, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah- [32] not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, though I was a husband to them, says the LORD. [33] But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the LORD: I will put My law in their minds, and write it on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. [34] No more shall every man teach his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying, 'Know the LORD,' for they all shall know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them, says the LORD. For I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin I will remember no more."
Even when Paul states explicitly in Romans 11, you still won't accept it? I have no problems reading it literally.
As regards the gospel, they are enemies for your sake. But as regards election, they are beloved for the sake of their forefathers.
Isn't that first statement clear wrt to the entire Romans 11 chapter concerning 3 parties, God, Israel and Gentiles? God became enemies with Israel, so that us former Gentiles can receive the gospel.
As Paul further explained in vs 12
12 Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?
So if Israel's fall has become our riches thru the gospel of grace, the moment God is reconciled with Israel after the Tribulation, we can expect all sickness and disease to finally cease + more.
As regards the gospel, they are enemies for your sake. But as regards election, they are beloved for the sake of their forefathers.
Isn't that first statement clear wrt to the entire Romans 11 chapter concerning 3 parties, God, Israel and Gentiles? God became enemies with Israel, so that us former Gentiles can receive the gospel.
As Paul further explained in vs 12
12 Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?
So if Israel's fall has become our riches thru the gospel of grace, the moment God is reconciled with Israel after the Tribulation, we can expect all sickness and disease to finally cease + more.