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read it carefully.....does not mention the anti (pseudo)Christ. The anti-christ will come from the bottomless pit, will be of Seluccid's Northern Kingdom, be of Middle eastern decent (assyrian) and will not be known until the restrainer (Holy Spirit (the Church)) is removed from this earth. His name will most likely be Nimrod
Rev 12:7-9
7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
KJV
Rev 13:4-7
4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
KJV
The coming Antichrist is... the Devil himself.
No flesh man can work the Biblically written miracles, great signs and wonders, raining fire down from heaven in the sight of men, to deceive the whole world into worshiping him (Rev.13:11 forward). The orthodox Jews in Jerusalem will not worship one from Islam.
The Antichrist will play The Messiah which the Jews are expecting. And Jerusalem is where he will build another Jewish temple, as the orthodox Jews are also expecting that to be fulfilled by Messiah per Zechariah 6.
It will... be... a PSEUDO-CHRIST.
7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
KJV
Rev 13:4-7
4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
KJV
The coming Antichrist is... the Devil himself.
No flesh man can work the Biblically written miracles, great signs and wonders, raining fire down from heaven in the sight of men, to deceive the whole world into worshiping him (Rev.13:11 forward). The orthodox Jews in Jerusalem will not worship one from Islam.
The Antichrist will play The Messiah which the Jews are expecting. And Jerusalem is where he will build another Jewish temple, as the orthodox Jews are also expecting that to be fulfilled by Messiah per Zechariah 6.
It will... be... a PSEUDO-CHRIST.
No,, The dragon who give the beast (anti-christ) the authority to carry on..There is a Satanic trinity (so-to-speak) here with Satan, Pseudo-Christ and False Prophet (probably the present Pope)
Again, the Psudeo-Christ will come up out of the Bottomless pit, will be of Assarian decent and his name will probably be Nimrod
Again, the Psudeo-Christ will come up out of the Bottomless pit, will be of Assarian decent and his name will probably be Nimrod
The Bible tells us that the Anti-Christ will appear after the "restrainer" (Holy Spirit) has left the world (Rapture). There is a pause between the rapture and the tribulations. I think the anti-christ will appear sometime around this time. The tribulations (Daniel's 70th week) will begin when the 1st seal is opened by the lamb in Rev. 6:
Who is the 4th beast of Daniel 7?
Who is the iron of Dan.2?
What nations are these?
What nation is represented by the city of 7 hills?
Rome,
The head of Rome is Caesar.
The religion of Rome is Caesar worship.
The religion of the RCC is Caesar worship,
(Holy Father they call him, taking the place of Jesus/God)
He has been here for 2000 yrs.
He has 2 horns LIKE a lamb, but he is a goat!
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These are nations, Daniel chs 2&7.
Rome crawled out of the B.Pit when it became a nation again in 1929.
Look what happened after 1929, that was the date of the beginning to drive Israel to be restored to Jerusalem.
If that time had not been shortened, no flesh (Jacob's flesh seed), would have been saved.
Who is the iron of Dan.2?
What nations are these?
What nation is represented by the city of 7 hills?
Rome,
The head of Rome is Caesar.
The religion of Rome is Caesar worship.
The religion of the RCC is Caesar worship,
(Holy Father they call him, taking the place of Jesus/God)
He has been here for 2000 yrs.
He has 2 horns LIKE a lamb, but he is a goat!
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These are nations, Daniel chs 2&7.
Rome crawled out of the B.Pit when it became a nation again in 1929.
Look what happened after 1929, that was the date of the beginning to drive Israel to be restored to Jerusalem.
If that time had not been shortened, no flesh (Jacob's flesh seed), would have been saved.
Says who?
It's a fallacy to think that the order in which John was given the Seals, Trumpets, and Vials is also the order they occur.
In Rev.6, on the 6th Seal, it's showing Jesus' coming, as the wicked seek to hide from Him and wanting the mountains and hills to fall on them, which is a metaphor only for the day of His coming. Yet the trumpets and vials haven't been mentioned yet at that Rev.6 point.
It's a fallacy to think that the order in which John was given the Seals, Trumpets, and Vials is also the order they occur.
In Rev.6, on the 6th Seal, it's showing Jesus' coming, as the wicked seek to hide from Him and wanting the mountains and hills to fall on them, which is a metaphor only for the day of His coming. Yet the trumpets and vials haven't been mentioned yet at that Rev.6 point.
That's a Historicist, or Preterist view, based on the Book of Daniel and history of the 4 leaders after Alexander.
The angel of the bottomless pit is Satan himself. He also is the "king" of Rev.9:11. Those other titles of Abaddon and Apollyon are simply other names for Satan himself as the Destroyer.
The Pseudo-Christ indeed will ascend... out of the bottomless pit, and is the angel of the bottomless pit, i.e., Satan himself, also called the "dragon" and "that old serpent".
Satan doesn't do a trinity of characters. The pseudo-Christ and false prophet are merely roles that Satan will play here on earth in person in the last days, and those roles will be destroyed in the lake of fire at Jesus' coming, while Satan himself will not. Many forget that our Lord Jesus was a Prophet also. That's Who Satan is going to mimic, and the whole world will believe he is God.
The angel of the bottomless pit is Satan himself. He also is the "king" of Rev.9:11. Those other titles of Abaddon and Apollyon are simply other names for Satan himself as the Destroyer.
The Pseudo-Christ indeed will ascend... out of the bottomless pit, and is the angel of the bottomless pit, i.e., Satan himself, also called the "dragon" and "that old serpent".
Satan doesn't do a trinity of characters. The pseudo-Christ and false prophet are merely roles that Satan will play here on earth in person in the last days, and those roles will be destroyed in the lake of fire at Jesus' coming, while Satan himself will not. Many forget that our Lord Jesus was a Prophet also. That's Who Satan is going to mimic, and the whole world will believe he is God.
Correction of the above errors are recorded below:
1The dragon[SUP]a[/SUP] stood on the shore of the sea. And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. It had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on its horns, and on each head a blasphemous name. 2The beast I saw resembled a leopard, but had feet like those of a bear and a mouth like that of a lion. The dragon [Satan] gave the beast his power and his throne and great authority. 3One of the heads of the beast seemed to have had a fatal wound, but the fatal wound had been healed. The whole world was filled with wonder and followed the beast. 4People worshiped the dragon because he had given authority to the beast, and they also worshiped the beast and asked, “Who is like the beast? Who can wage war against it?”
5The beast was given a mouth to utter proud words and blasphemies and to exercise its authority for forty-two months. 6It opened its mouth to blaspheme God, and to slander his name and his dwelling place and those who live in heaven. 7It was given power to wage war against God’s holy people and to conquer them.[Reference here is to the tribulation martyrs/saints, left behind to go through the tribulation, when the Church is raptured, in Jn.14:2-4; 1 Thess.4:16-17 and 2 Thess.2:3 and 7-8. Who are brought to the Lord by the 144,000 Israelite evangelists, during the tribulation, recorded in Rev.7:1-8, documented in Rev.6:11-13; 7:9-17 and 20:4.]
And it was given authority over every tribe, people, language and nation. 8All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast—all whose names have not been written in the Lamb’s book of life, the Lamb who was slain from the creation of the world.[SUP]b[/SUP]
[The beast out of the sea is the Antichrist, NOT Satan!]
The Beast out of the Earth
11Then I saw a second beast, coming out of the earth [The False Prophet]. It had two horns like a lamb, but it spoke like a dragon. 12It exercised all the authority of the first beast on its behalf, and made the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose fatal wound had been healed. 13And it performed great signs, even causing fire to come down from heaven to the earth in full view of the people. 14Because of the signs it was given power to perform on behalf of the first beast, it deceived the inhabitants of the earth. It ordered them to set up an image in honor of the beast who was wounded by the sword and yet lived. 15The second beast was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed. 16It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads,17so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name.18This calls for wisdom. Let the person who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man.[SUP]e[/SUP] That number is 666.
The above above miracles and wonders are the very prophecies of Jesus when He gave the vision to the apostle John. Your denial of them infers that Jesus is a liar!
Parenthetics mine.
Quasar93
1The dragon[SUP]a[/SUP] stood on the shore of the sea. And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. It had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on its horns, and on each head a blasphemous name. 2The beast I saw resembled a leopard, but had feet like those of a bear and a mouth like that of a lion. The dragon [Satan] gave the beast his power and his throne and great authority. 3One of the heads of the beast seemed to have had a fatal wound, but the fatal wound had been healed. The whole world was filled with wonder and followed the beast. 4People worshiped the dragon because he had given authority to the beast, and they also worshiped the beast and asked, “Who is like the beast? Who can wage war against it?”
5The beast was given a mouth to utter proud words and blasphemies and to exercise its authority for forty-two months. 6It opened its mouth to blaspheme God, and to slander his name and his dwelling place and those who live in heaven. 7It was given power to wage war against God’s holy people and to conquer them.[Reference here is to the tribulation martyrs/saints, left behind to go through the tribulation, when the Church is raptured, in Jn.14:2-4; 1 Thess.4:16-17 and 2 Thess.2:3 and 7-8. Who are brought to the Lord by the 144,000 Israelite evangelists, during the tribulation, recorded in Rev.7:1-8, documented in Rev.6:11-13; 7:9-17 and 20:4.]
And it was given authority over every tribe, people, language and nation. 8All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast—all whose names have not been written in the Lamb’s book of life, the Lamb who was slain from the creation of the world.[SUP]b[/SUP]
[The beast out of the sea is the Antichrist, NOT Satan!]
The Beast out of the Earth
11Then I saw a second beast, coming out of the earth [The False Prophet]. It had two horns like a lamb, but it spoke like a dragon. 12It exercised all the authority of the first beast on its behalf, and made the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose fatal wound had been healed. 13And it performed great signs, even causing fire to come down from heaven to the earth in full view of the people. 14Because of the signs it was given power to perform on behalf of the first beast, it deceived the inhabitants of the earth. It ordered them to set up an image in honor of the beast who was wounded by the sword and yet lived. 15The second beast was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed. 16It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads,17so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name.18This calls for wisdom. Let the person who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man.[SUP]e[/SUP] That number is 666.The above above miracles and wonders are the very prophecies of Jesus when He gave the vision to the apostle John.
Your denial of them infers that Jesus is a liar!
Quasar92
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But he's actually correct though, because the first part of the 6th Seal with Rev.6:13 has a link to Rev.12:7-9 with the idea of untimely figs (an early winter fig, not the summer fig). And the tribulation events are what is going on within the 6th Trumpet - 2nd Woe period. And the 6th Vial is when unclean spirits come out of the mouth of the dragon, the beast, and false prophet.
Quasar's above rant of just more unrelated filler that doesn't explain anything about that Rev.13 Scripture!
The dragon gives the 1st beast its power, throne, and authority because the 1st beast is a KINGDOM and not a person. What kind ruling structure has a THRONE people? That's right, a KINGDOM with a king! Just like the previous beast kingdoms of Daniel 7 which our Lord Jesus linked this 1st beast to in Rev.13:2.
But this knucklehead Quasar keeps trying to push his Biblical ignorance in place instead, showing God has not opened his eyes in His Holy Writ.
Qarruptsar likes to make up stories. Nowhere in my posts have I ever said our Lord Jesus did not give John His Book of Revelation by vision to John. So that above is definitely a big fat, bold, LIE.
Nor is there ANY mention of a "false prophet" in the Rev.13 Scripture. The declaration is of "another beast" coming up out of the earth, and he has two horns LIKE a lamb, but speaks as a DRAGON. Guess who that might be that speaks as a DRAGON? That's probably 'the' "dragon", another title for Satan we were told back in Rev.12:9! This is so... easy a first grader can understand it!
And little children, how many beasts are there when it says the "another beast" exerciseth all the power of the "first beast" in Rev.13:11-12? That's right little children, that's TWO different beasts in that Rev.13 Chapter! The first beast mentioned is a KINGDOM beast; the 2nd or "another beast", is the Antichrist that is to come.
The dragon gives the 1st beast its power, throne, and authority because the 1st beast is a KINGDOM and not a person. What kind ruling structure has a THRONE people? That's right, a KINGDOM with a king! Just like the previous beast kingdoms of Daniel 7 which our Lord Jesus linked this 1st beast to in Rev.13:2.
But this knucklehead Quasar keeps trying to push his Biblical ignorance in place instead, showing God has not opened his eyes in His Holy Writ.
Qarruptsar likes to make up stories. Nowhere in my posts have I ever said our Lord Jesus did not give John His Book of Revelation by vision to John. So that above is definitely a big fat, bold, LIE.
Nor is there ANY mention of a "false prophet" in the Rev.13 Scripture. The declaration is of "another beast" coming up out of the earth, and he has two horns LIKE a lamb, but speaks as a DRAGON. Guess who that might be that speaks as a DRAGON? That's probably 'the' "dragon", another title for Satan we were told back in Rev.12:9! This is so... easy a first grader can understand it!
And little children, how many beasts are there when it says the "another beast" exerciseth all the power of the "first beast" in Rev.13:11-12? That's right little children, that's TWO different beasts in that Rev.13 Chapter! The first beast mentioned is a KINGDOM beast; the 2nd or "another beast", is the Antichrist that is to come.
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First of all to say that Obama is the Antichrist is very racist. I'm black and I know that Obama is not the Antichrist. However I don't approve how Obama favors Muslims over Christians and Jews. As a born again Christian I have nothing but love for the Jewish people. Most of the people who converted to Christianity after the disciples received the Baptism of the Holy Ghost were Jewish people. After the apostle Paul stepped on the scene Gentiles began to accept Christianity. I don't hate Muslims, I hate the religion they practice. Islam is pure evil. They teach children from birth to hate Christians and Jews. They treat their women like property. I did some research on the Crusades. What I found out was very interesting. The Crusades was Muslims trying to conquer the world and forcing people to become Muslim. Anyway all we can do is pray that people who follow false religion get convicted by God and come to the knowledge and wisdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Ephesians5:11-12
And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them. For it is even shameful to speak on things which they do in secret. The devil is very busy, however as children of the Most High God we have the power and authority in the name of Jesus to defeat Satan and his demonic forces. Its a spiritual battle and these we fight against can not be seen with the natural eye. Have to be seen in the spiritual realm. Not all Christians can see in the spiritual realm. I know what demons look like and I know what angels look like. God showed me heaven in a supernatural dream that I had many years ago when I was 19. It was the most beautiful thing that I have ever seen. I asked God could I stay here? He told me it wasn't my time yet. He just wanted to show me what all Christians are looking forward to. When we get to heaven there will be no more war, no more racism, no more ghettos, no more gangs, no more drugs, no more sickness, and no more sorrow. Finally my bretheren be strong in the Lord and in the power of his might. Put on the whole armor of God that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood but against principalities and wickedness in high places. Ephesians chapter 6 I left my bible at home so I was trying to quote this verse from memory. Thank God for the Holy Ghost. We're living in very evil times, but don't worry because is still on the throne. In the last days I will pour out my Spirit upon all flesh. Your Old men will dream dreams and your young men will have visions and your sons and daughters will prophesy. This is the Outpouring of the Power of the Holy Ghost and this prophecy is being fulfilled today. I believe in the last days that God will raise up a remnant of people who will stand up for what is right and preach the true gospel from God's Word and will not bow down to Satan or the ways of this wicked world that we live in (Babylon). May these scriptures help you to grow in your walk with God and encourage you stand up for what is right. Christians can not afford to be silent. All these scriptures came from the New King James Bible. To God be the Glory. Preacha24-7
And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them. For it is even shameful to speak on things which they do in secret. The devil is very busy, however as children of the Most High God we have the power and authority in the name of Jesus to defeat Satan and his demonic forces. Its a spiritual battle and these we fight against can not be seen with the natural eye. Have to be seen in the spiritual realm. Not all Christians can see in the spiritual realm. I know what demons look like and I know what angels look like. God showed me heaven in a supernatural dream that I had many years ago when I was 19. It was the most beautiful thing that I have ever seen. I asked God could I stay here? He told me it wasn't my time yet. He just wanted to show me what all Christians are looking forward to. When we get to heaven there will be no more war, no more racism, no more ghettos, no more gangs, no more drugs, no more sickness, and no more sorrow. Finally my bretheren be strong in the Lord and in the power of his might. Put on the whole armor of God that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood but against principalities and wickedness in high places. Ephesians chapter 6 I left my bible at home so I was trying to quote this verse from memory. Thank God for the Holy Ghost. We're living in very evil times, but don't worry because is still on the throne. In the last days I will pour out my Spirit upon all flesh. Your Old men will dream dreams and your young men will have visions and your sons and daughters will prophesy. This is the Outpouring of the Power of the Holy Ghost and this prophecy is being fulfilled today. I believe in the last days that God will raise up a remnant of people who will stand up for what is right and preach the true gospel from God's Word and will not bow down to Satan or the ways of this wicked world that we live in (Babylon). May these scriptures help you to grow in your walk with God and encourage you stand up for what is right. Christians can not afford to be silent. All these scriptures came from the New King James Bible. To God be the Glory. Preacha24-7
If you look at the writings of the 1st century Church fathers (Polycarp, Hippolytus), you'll find they understood about the coming of an Antichrist person at the end of this world. That is how Apostle John understood it also as he mentioned both a single antichrist and many antichrists here:
1 John 2:18
18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
KJV
That in red is about a singular antichrist they had already heard shall come. But when did they first hear about that coming antichrist? It was when Jesus foretold them right before His crucifixion:
John 14:30
30 Hereafter I will not talk much with you:for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in Me.
KJV
Even prior to our Lord Jesus giving His Revelation through John He told us there about the coming Antichrist (the dragon, Satan). In Rev.12:7 forward He showed us the "dragon" is another title for Satan, and that he is to be cast out of heaven down to this earth with his angels after the war with Archangel Michael.
WHY have so many brethren not believed our Lord Jesus on that revealing, but instead listen to men that don't have a clue???
Who do folks think our Lord Jesus was talking about with saying "the prince of this world cometh"? Who else could that be but Satan?
And then there Satan is being mentioned again as the "dragon" in Rev.13, and is being pointed to in Rev.9 as a king, and as the angel of the bottomless pit, and again in Rev.11 as the beast that ascends... from the bottomless pit to kill God's two witnesses, and again in Rev.16 as the dragon with what comes out of his 'mouth' prior to Jesus' 2nd coming that links back to waters as a flood out of his mouth at the end of Rev.12, and again in Rev.17 as the beast that was, and is not, and yet is that goes into perdition, and ascends out of the bottomless pit. How many times must our Lord Jesus hit you with that revelation put right in front of you before you'll believe it as written???
Instead, why are there so many here that claim to understand God's Word, but don't seem to be able to remember what they read from one Bible Chapter to the next???
1 John 2:18
18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
KJV
That in red is about a singular antichrist they had already heard shall come. But when did they first hear about that coming antichrist? It was when Jesus foretold them right before His crucifixion:
John 14:30
30 Hereafter I will not talk much with you:for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in Me.
KJV
Even prior to our Lord Jesus giving His Revelation through John He told us there about the coming Antichrist (the dragon, Satan). In Rev.12:7 forward He showed us the "dragon" is another title for Satan, and that he is to be cast out of heaven down to this earth with his angels after the war with Archangel Michael.
WHY have so many brethren not believed our Lord Jesus on that revealing, but instead listen to men that don't have a clue???
Who do folks think our Lord Jesus was talking about with saying "the prince of this world cometh"? Who else could that be but Satan?
And then there Satan is being mentioned again as the "dragon" in Rev.13, and is being pointed to in Rev.9 as a king, and as the angel of the bottomless pit, and again in Rev.11 as the beast that ascends... from the bottomless pit to kill God's two witnesses, and again in Rev.16 as the dragon with what comes out of his 'mouth' prior to Jesus' 2nd coming that links back to waters as a flood out of his mouth at the end of Rev.12, and again in Rev.17 as the beast that was, and is not, and yet is that goes into perdition, and ascends out of the bottomless pit. How many times must our Lord Jesus hit you with that revelation put right in front of you before you'll believe it as written???
Instead, why are there so many here that claim to understand God's Word, but don't seem to be able to remember what they read from one Bible Chapter to the next???
The above is a prime example in the epitome of the Scriptures being perverted into a collosal charade!
The intended and proper interpretation pertaining to the Antichrist and False prophet, providing sound exegesis and hermeneutics is recorded in the following, as previously posted:
Correction of the above errors are recorded below:
Rev.13:1The dragon stood on the shore of the sea. And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. It had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on its horns, and on each head a blasphemous name. 2The beast I saw resembled a leopard, but had feet like those of a bear and a mouth like that of a lion. The dragon [Satan] gave the beast his power and his throne and great authority. 3One of the heads of the beast seemed to have had a fatal wound, but the fatal wound had been healed. The whole world was filled with wonder and followed the beast. 4People worshiped the dragon because he had given authority to the beast, and they also worshiped the beast and asked, “Who is like the beast? Who can wage war against it?”
5The beast was given a mouth to utter proud words and blasphemies and to exercise its authority for forty-two months. 6It opened its mouth to blaspheme God, and to slander his name and his dwelling place and those who live in heaven. 7It was given power to wage war against God’s holy people and to conquer them.[Reference here is to the tribulation martyrs/saints, left behind to go through the tribulation, when the Church is raptured, in Jn.14:2-4; 1 Thess.4:16-17 and 2 Thess.2:3 and 7-8. Who are brought to the Lord by the 144,000 Israelite evangelists, during the tribulation, recorded in Rev.7:1-8, documented in Rev.6:11-13; 7:9-17 and 20:4.]
And it was given authority over every tribe, people, language and nation. 8All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast—all whose names have not been written in the Lamb’s book of life, the Lamb who was slain from the creation of the world.[SUP]b[/SUP]
[The beast out of the sea is the Antichrist, NOT Satan!]
The Beast out of the Earth
11Then I saw a second beast, coming out of the earth [The False Prophet]. It had two horns like a lamb, but it spoke like a dragon. 12It exercised all the authority of the first beast on its behalf, and made the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose fatal wound had been healed. 13And it performed great signs, even causing fire to come down from heaven to the earth in full view of the people. 14Because of the signs it was given power to perform on behalf of the first beast, it deceived the inhabitants of the earth. It ordered them to set up an image in honor of the beast who was wounded by the sword and yet lived. 15The second beast was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed. 16It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads,17so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name.18This calls for wisdom. Let the person who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man.[SUP]e[/SUP] That number is 666.
The above above miracles and wonders are the very prophecies of Jesus when He gave the vision to the apostle John. Your denial of them infers that Jesus is a liar!
Parenthetics mine.
Quasar92
The intended and proper interpretation pertaining to the Antichrist and False prophet, providing sound exegesis and hermeneutics is recorded in the following, as previously posted:
Correction of the above errors are recorded below:
Rev.13:1The dragon stood on the shore of the sea. And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. It had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on its horns, and on each head a blasphemous name. 2The beast I saw resembled a leopard, but had feet like those of a bear and a mouth like that of a lion. The dragon [Satan] gave the beast his power and his throne and great authority. 3One of the heads of the beast seemed to have had a fatal wound, but the fatal wound had been healed. The whole world was filled with wonder and followed the beast. 4People worshiped the dragon because he had given authority to the beast, and they also worshiped the beast and asked, “Who is like the beast? Who can wage war against it?”
5The beast was given a mouth to utter proud words and blasphemies and to exercise its authority for forty-two months. 6It opened its mouth to blaspheme God, and to slander his name and his dwelling place and those who live in heaven. 7It was given power to wage war against God’s holy people and to conquer them.[Reference here is to the tribulation martyrs/saints, left behind to go through the tribulation, when the Church is raptured, in Jn.14:2-4; 1 Thess.4:16-17 and 2 Thess.2:3 and 7-8. Who are brought to the Lord by the 144,000 Israelite evangelists, during the tribulation, recorded in Rev.7:1-8, documented in Rev.6:11-13; 7:9-17 and 20:4.]
And it was given authority over every tribe, people, language and nation. 8All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast—all whose names have not been written in the Lamb’s book of life, the Lamb who was slain from the creation of the world.[SUP]b[/SUP]
[The beast out of the sea is the Antichrist, NOT Satan!]
The Beast out of the Earth
11Then I saw a second beast, coming out of the earth [The False Prophet]. It had two horns like a lamb, but it spoke like a dragon. 12It exercised all the authority of the first beast on its behalf, and made the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose fatal wound had been healed. 13And it performed great signs, even causing fire to come down from heaven to the earth in full view of the people. 14Because of the signs it was given power to perform on behalf of the first beast, it deceived the inhabitants of the earth. It ordered them to set up an image in honor of the beast who was wounded by the sword and yet lived. 15The second beast was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed. 16It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads,17so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name.18This calls for wisdom. Let the person who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man.[SUP]e[/SUP] That number is 666.
The above above miracles and wonders are the very prophecies of Jesus when He gave the vision to the apostle John. Your denial of them infers that Jesus is a liar!
Parenthetics mine.
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The Casting of Satan Out of Heaven To Earth Among Us:
Rev 12:7-17
7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
Did you know Satan's and his angel's place is in heaven until this event happens in our near future? Per this event, he is being cast out of heaven down to this earth. What this means about his place not being found in the heavenly anymore is that he is coming to our dimension, here on earth. And I mean 'in person'. He will manifest on earth with the appearance of man, since that's the image God also created the angels with.
9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
Those titles, the Devil, the great dragon, that old serpent, are simply other names for Satan. He has other names than that too, like Abaddon and Apollyon of Rev.9 which means the Destroyer. Not only he, but his angels... are to be cast out with him! Remember Rev.6 about Death on a pale horse and Hell followed with him? "Death" is yet another title for Satan. Hell following with him is symbolic of his angels coming here on earth with him.
If you believe this is just too... fantastic sounding to believe as it is literally written here, then you're already in trouble and are not prepared for what is soon coming upon this earth, and most likely will... be deceived. This is not difficult to understand what our Lord Jesus showed John here. The reader just needs to make up their mind whether they are going to believe it as written or not.
10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, "Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night."
Remember the time of Job, when Satan and his angels appeared before God's Throne in Heaven? Until this event of Satan being cast out of heaven, he presently can come before God's Throne and accuse us like he did Job. Once he is cast out though, that's why this will be said, because he won't be able to do that anymore in heaven. Because this says Salvation is come, and the "power of His Christ", that definitely reveals this event is still future, and did not happen some time back in history. There will be other time markers like later here, like the next verse.
11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
That is a 5th Seal time marker, those that God tells the souls under the altar to wait until they likewise are killed as they were. That is a great tribulation time marker. That even more so let's us know what timing this casting out even is for.
12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
Our Lord Jesus made this plain, "the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath". That's not hard to understand. That "wrath" will be against us in Christ Jesus, His Church. We are not going anywhere before this event; we will... be here. The previous verse was about the overcomers who overcome the Devil by the power of Jesus Christ. That's what our Lord Jesus expects us to do during the tribulation, to overcome it.
13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.
14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.
Who is this woman? The symbols given at first are about Israel. But later on it's about those who have the Testimony of Jesus Christ, meaning The Gospel, so who do you think that means? That's right, us, Christ's Church. Who is the "dragon" again? The Devil, Satan. During the first part of the symbolic "one week" of Dan.9:27, God's people are protected from Satan's wrath. That's what this verse represents.
15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.
16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.
This is not a literal flood of water, it's symbolic for LIES that come out of Satan's mouth towards the woman (God's people). But the earth swallowed up the flood out of the dragon's MOUTH. This is all symbolic for Satan coming as the pseudochristos of Matt.24 to play Messiah in Jerusalem. That's the main lie that will come out of his mouth. And that is how... he will do the great signs and miracles in the sight of men, which is about a supernatural working no flesh man could do.
17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
KJV
In the Book of Daniel, and in Rev.13, we were shown how the Antichrist will go to make war with the saints, and how we will be given into his hand for a short time. This is about the time of "great tribulation" our Lord Jesus warned us about, which are the 7 signs He covered in Matt.24, Mark 13, and in His Book of Revelation.
Rev 12:7-17
7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
Did you know Satan's and his angel's place is in heaven until this event happens in our near future? Per this event, he is being cast out of heaven down to this earth. What this means about his place not being found in the heavenly anymore is that he is coming to our dimension, here on earth. And I mean 'in person'. He will manifest on earth with the appearance of man, since that's the image God also created the angels with.
9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
Those titles, the Devil, the great dragon, that old serpent, are simply other names for Satan. He has other names than that too, like Abaddon and Apollyon of Rev.9 which means the Destroyer. Not only he, but his angels... are to be cast out with him! Remember Rev.6 about Death on a pale horse and Hell followed with him? "Death" is yet another title for Satan. Hell following with him is symbolic of his angels coming here on earth with him.
If you believe this is just too... fantastic sounding to believe as it is literally written here, then you're already in trouble and are not prepared for what is soon coming upon this earth, and most likely will... be deceived. This is not difficult to understand what our Lord Jesus showed John here. The reader just needs to make up their mind whether they are going to believe it as written or not.
10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, "Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night."
Remember the time of Job, when Satan and his angels appeared before God's Throne in Heaven? Until this event of Satan being cast out of heaven, he presently can come before God's Throne and accuse us like he did Job. Once he is cast out though, that's why this will be said, because he won't be able to do that anymore in heaven. Because this says Salvation is come, and the "power of His Christ", that definitely reveals this event is still future, and did not happen some time back in history. There will be other time markers like later here, like the next verse.
11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
That is a 5th Seal time marker, those that God tells the souls under the altar to wait until they likewise are killed as they were. That is a great tribulation time marker. That even more so let's us know what timing this casting out even is for.
12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
Our Lord Jesus made this plain, "the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath". That's not hard to understand. That "wrath" will be against us in Christ Jesus, His Church. We are not going anywhere before this event; we will... be here. The previous verse was about the overcomers who overcome the Devil by the power of Jesus Christ. That's what our Lord Jesus expects us to do during the tribulation, to overcome it.
13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.
14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.
Who is this woman? The symbols given at first are about Israel. But later on it's about those who have the Testimony of Jesus Christ, meaning The Gospel, so who do you think that means? That's right, us, Christ's Church. Who is the "dragon" again? The Devil, Satan. During the first part of the symbolic "one week" of Dan.9:27, God's people are protected from Satan's wrath. That's what this verse represents.
15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.
16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.
This is not a literal flood of water, it's symbolic for LIES that come out of Satan's mouth towards the woman (God's people). But the earth swallowed up the flood out of the dragon's MOUTH. This is all symbolic for Satan coming as the pseudochristos of Matt.24 to play Messiah in Jerusalem. That's the main lie that will come out of his mouth. And that is how... he will do the great signs and miracles in the sight of men, which is about a supernatural working no flesh man could do.
17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
KJV
In the Book of Daniel, and in Rev.13, we were shown how the Antichrist will go to make war with the saints, and how we will be given into his hand for a short time. This is about the time of "great tribulation" our Lord Jesus warned us about, which are the 7 signs He covered in Matt.24, Mark 13, and in His Book of Revelation.