The Barren Woman

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Shakes head...the answers you give seem to contradict the following statement, and belies the fact that in reality you already held your own view and belief...

You said....

I've been studying her and those are just question that I'm asking myself and I'm hoping someone can provide scripture to answer... no hidden agenda lol.
1) Who is the barren woman? Everybody knows it's heavenly Jerusalem, that's given in Galatians... but who is heavenly Jerusalem, I think it's the church but Im still not 100% sure that's right.

2) Does she have a husband? If she is the church then her husband is Christ.. thank you garee.

3) How did she have children without travailing? I thought this might be lteral children - again thank you garee for your part.

4) When did she bear her first child? Thank you garee again.

5) Who is the married wife? Maybe flesh Israel... I'm still not sure.

Those are my motives... to find answers to those questions.

 
Dec 12, 2013
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Teach me something... where are glorified bodies, wastes cities of the PLANET and children dying accursed at 100 years old in Isaiah 54?

Do you think that Isaiah 54 is the only chapter in the bible?

or DOES the WHOLE bible tell the WHOLE STORY? The three I cited are found in scripture.....

The resurrected and glorified are like the angels in Heaven...they are not given and or taken in MARRIAGE
The waste cities CANNOT be repopulated by those who DO NOT HAVE SEX or CHILDREN
AND UNLESS children are BORN, HOW can A CHILD DIE at 100 BEING ACCURSED.....

For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.

There shall be no more thence an infant of days, nor an old man that hath not filled his days: for the child shall die an hundred years old; but the sinner being an hundred years old shall be accursed

And they that shall be of thee shall build the old waste places: thou shalt raise up the foundations of many generations; and thou shalt be called, The repairer of the breach, The restorer of paths to dwell in.

So....who has the kids, fills the waste cities especially in Israel......?
 
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i agree with most of that but how did you arrive at the married wife being heavenly Jerusalem?
She is the the bride in respect to the many living stones that make up the spiritual house of God.(Revelation 21:1-2

Rev 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.(Christ)

She is seen as the mother of us all.

Galatians 4:26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

She the church is seen in many parables that hide the spiritual meaning from the lost. .

And he dreamed yet another dream, and told it his brethren, and said, Behold, I have dreamed a dream more; and, behold, the sun and the moon and the eleven stars made obeisance to me.And he told it to his father, and to his brethren: and his father rebuked him, and said unto him, What is this dream that thou hast dreamed? Shall I and thy mother and thy brethren indeed come to bow down ourselves to thee to the earth?Genesis 37:10

There we can see Josef making the twelve stars, the sun and the moon and the eleven stars typified as one of the segregate mothers . His father misinterpreted the parable.

Rev 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

Because as new creatures we are not to consider ourselves as male or female Jew or gentile.But the bride of Christ pictured in Revelation 12 she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.

The same kind of birth pains Paul went through holding out the gospel as God formed Christ in Timothy.

Galatians 4:19 My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you,

Timothy is reckoned as one of the chaste virgins that make up the spiritual house of God, the bride coming down on the last day.

2Corinthians 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ. (the husband)

He would be considered one of the 144,000 as a number no man could count (its a metaphor) for the whole body of Christ His wife. His first fruits.

And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth. These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.Rev 14:3

There are others, I am continuing to work on the doctrine of mothers used to represent the whole church His bride under the authority of Christ ,our bloody husband, in that way.
 
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Do you think that Isaiah 54 is the only chapter in the bible?

or DOES the WHOLE bible tell the WHOLE STORY? The three I cited are found in scripture.....

The resurrected and glorified are like the angels in Heaven...they are not given and or taken in MARRIAGE
The waste cities CANNOT be repopulated by those who DO NOT HAVE SEX or CHILDREN
AND UNLESS children are BORN, HOW can A CHILD DIE at 100 BEING ACCURSED.....

For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.

There shall be no more thence an infant of days, nor an old man that hath not filled his days: for the child shall die an hundred years old; but the sinner being an hundred years old shall be accursed

And they that shall be of thee shall build the old waste places: thou shalt raise up the foundations of many generations; and thou shalt be called, The repairer of the breach, The restorer of paths to dwell in.

So....who has the kids, fills the waste cities especially in Israel......?
Of course we you use the whole bible to get the whole truth. We also have to consider the CONTEXT of each verse... I can only assume that you bring up the things above because "waste cities" are mentioned in verse 3.

Isaiah 54:3 KJV
For thou shalt break forth on the right hand and on the left; and thy seed shall inherit the Gentiles, and make the desolate cities to be inhabited.

What is the context of verse 3? The context is Jerusalem above is breaking forth. HER SEED inherits the Gentiles and HER SEED makes the desolate cities to be inhabited. This verse isn't saying that the desolate cities are being repopulated at the time Jerusalem above is breaking forth.