The Basics of Speaking in Tongues

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stonesoffire

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You clearly don't understand what a spirit is.

If speaking in the spirit is speaking things that you don't understand, what will 'walking in the spirit' look like? two left steps followed by three right steps?!!
You don't understand either of this. Speaking or walking.
 

stonesoffire

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Yeah they are afraid of satan

Thats why many are afraid of this. Satan comes as an angel of light. And we see in Jesus own words that people prophecy an do all kinds of things in jesus name, when it was in reality satan. Thats why using experiences to say you are saved is dangerou, you do not know if it is god or satan.
You know. And he runs when exposed. No need to fear.

Superstition EG.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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explaining the supernature gifting of the Holy Spirit from the context found in 1cor 12 to 14? no sir,

look up the Charismata and pneumatika
You can not prove that tongues in many church has anythign to do with 1 cor 12. Or 14. So if thats all you have, then you are lacking, because what we have is a interpretational issue.

I have seen tongues used in the NT, we have wintess to them, I have also seen prophesy all through scrioture. We again see proof of them. Just because they happened then does nto mean they happen today. And what I have witnessed looks NOTHING like what was happening back then.

But if you want to ATTACK, BELITTLE tell me I HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OR NEVER WENT TO SCHOOl or all the other stuff I have seen you do to people who diagree with you. Then you are no better than the people who would rather divide and destroy churches over insignificnt doctrines such as age of the earth, End times prophesy. Should we be allowed to wear jeans in church, or is drinking an alcoholic beverage a sin even if we do not get drunk, are. Its just wrong

If you diagree, disagree,,
 

Noose

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You don't understand either of this. Speaking or walking.
But i won't associate things that i don't know to God. I can not speak words that i don't understand and say it is God working in me; even words that i think i understand, i still can not say it is God working in me.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Did you know that discernment is seeing into the spiritual realm? It's mostly misunderstood and suspicion is thought to be discernment.

I would not want to see fully this way for I've had glimpses and that's enough for me.

You know when the power is moving through you in whatever gift it is, for it's not of us.
Do I have to see this, and if I did. How could I know it is from god, and not from satan? And even if it was from God, Would it make me a better christian or make me love God more?

I have wintessed miracles and not even been present when they occured. I have witnessed a group of people pray for a person to be healed. Only to wake up the next day to see our prayers were answered.

This is power. This is Glory. This is something I am so afraid most people have never experienced. You want feelings and experiences.. Thats fine, if they are from God, praise God, but if they are not from God, you better be careful

But do nt for one minute think I have never experienced spiritual things..
 

stonesoffire

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But i won't associate things that i don't know to God. I can not speak words that i don't understand and say it is God working in me; even words that i think i understand, i still can not say it is God working in me.
What exactly do you believe noose? About anything?
 
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No, that can't be right because Paul said tongues of angels. You just want to understand something spiritual in the natural way.

And I love you EG. I want you to know...these things are wonderful to experience for it's God. High praise is awesome in the Spirit.
What do you know is a tongue of angel?

And yes, if there is a prophesy, I know Paul said they would see people speaking in tongues, But he also said there must be an interpretor. Because there has to be a way to determin if that person speaking is speaking from God or if he is not.. If the prophesy does nto come true, then what good was it?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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You know. And he runs when exposed. No need to fear.

Superstition EG.
We have historical evidence of many who have seen many of these things in the name of God, only to later find they were from satan

Its not superstition
 

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You can not prove that tongues in many church has anythign to do with 1 cor 12. Or 14. So if thats all you have, then you are lacking, because what we have is a interpretational issue.

I have seen tongues used in the NT, we have wintess to them, I have also seen prophesy all through scrioture. We again see proof of them. Just because they happened then does nto mean they happen today. And what I have witnessed looks NOTHING like what was happening back then.

But if you want to ATTACK, BELITTLE tell me I HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OR NEVER WENT TO SCHOOl or all the other stuff I have seen you do to people who diagree with you. Then you are no better than the people who would rather divide and destroy churches over insignificnt doctrines such as age of the earth, End times prophesy. Should we be allowed to wear jeans in church, or is drinking an alcoholic beverage a sin even if we do not get drunk, are. Its just wrong

If you diagree, disagree,,
that is your presupposition.

I am not in any way able to speak for all Church or even the many on the gifts of the Holy Spirit, what I am able to do is prove that Gifts of the Holy Spirit found in 1cor 12 thru 14 have not been done away with. So your attempt to over reach and assume I am all knowing was an error on your part.


when you say "I have seen tongues used in the NT, we have wintess to them, I have also seen prophesy all through scrioture. We again see proof of them. Just because they happened then does nto mean they happen today."

Your comment is opinionated and you did not even use one verse to support your claim.
 

stonesoffire

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Do I have to see this, and if I did. How could I know it is from god, and not from satan? And even if it was from God, Would it make me a better christian or make me love God more?

I have wintessed miracles and not even been present when they occured. I have witnessed a group of people pray for a person to be healed. Only to wake up the next day to see our prayers were answered.

This is power. This is Glory. This is something I am so afraid most people have never experienced. You want feelings and experiences.. Thats fine, if they are from God, praise God, but if they are not from God, you better be careful

But do nt for one minute think I have never experienced spiritual things..
I never asked for anything EG. The power actually is humbling because as I said, you know it's not you.

Do I love Him more for these things? No. His sacrifice in becoming sin for me is my reason. Jesus went through death and hell in our place. In return, I want to be used to snatch others from satans grip. This is the reason why I stay mostly in Dcon s thread.

But, I will defend what I know is truth in all things.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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that is your presupposition.

I am not in any way able to speak for all Church or even the many on the gifts of the Holy Spirit, what I am able to do is prove that Gifts of the Holy Spirit found in 1cor 12 thru 14 have not been done away with. So your attempt to ver reach and assume I am all knowing was an error on your part.


I never said they were so as usual you project facts not in evidence or facts that are not even true.

when you say "I have seen tongues used in the NT, we have wintess to them, I have also seen prophesy all through scrioture. We again see proof of them. Just because they happened then does nto mean they happen today."

Your comment is opinionated and you did not even use one verse to support your claim.
Your comments are opiniated too my friend, Dont go judging others peoples motives without judging your own. Thats where you get into trouble!
 

stonesoffire

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We have historical evidence of many who have seen many of these things in the name of God, only to later find they were from satan

Its not superstition
Like? Not that I don't believe this, just not sure your referencing what?
 
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I never asked for anything EG. The power actually is humbling because as I said, you know it's not you.

Do I love Him more for these things? No. His sacrifice in becoming sin for me is my reason. Jesus went through death and hell in our place. In return, I want to be used to snatch others from satans grip. This is the reason why I stay mostly in Dcon s thread.

But, I will defend what I know is truth in all things.
I have seen many people come to Christ, i have seen so many people who were so deep in drug addiction and or so hatefull of God because of things that happenes, you would never think they would ever get on their knees and pray out to God.
Yet they did it. Why? Because people have worked out their savation, being lights in the world drawing people to them, because people see them suffer great things yet never complain, Go through hrdship and keep smiling giving God the glory even when they have nothing, Sacrificial love which all through scripture has led many thousands upon thousands to God.

I am sorry, But if you think people TODAY need to see another person spek in tongues or hear people prophesy in church then you are in my view holding God back and not allowing him to do what he has been doing since mankind first fell.

Have you spoken in tongues? I can not say, I am not you nor am i god.

Does that mean I think we shoud all go out to churches where they speak in tongues so we can all have this great expereicne? No. White the opposite. I want to go into the world. And by my life lead people to christ, When I go to church, i want people to experience Gods word. And Gods love, which I have expereinced in amazing ways for the last 15 years since i returned ffrom being a prodigal son.
 
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Like? Not that I don't believe this, just not sure your referencing what?
It means many times in history people have been prophesying and speaking inwhat is called languages of angels. And they turned out to be cults. And satanic, and not from God.
 

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The only thing I am trying to understand is when you hear someone speaking in tongues how do you know when it is real or a counterfeit?
One knows tongues is real by seeking and receiving it by faith.
We are not to judge others. God knows and that is all that matters.
 

stonesoffire

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What do you know is a tongue of angel?

And yes, if there is a prophesy, I know Paul said they would see people speaking in tongues, But he also said there must be an interpretor. Because there has to be a way to determin if that person speaking is speaking from God or if he is not.. If the prophesy does nto come true, then what good was it?
Fear. You too want to see before you will believe. Well ask Him your questions if you truly would seek to know.

He showed Thomas.
 

Noose

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One knows tongues is real by seeking and receiving it by faith.
We are not to judge others. God knows and that is all that matters.
The tongues that the 'snake handlers' sought and received by faith, are they also real?
 

stonesoffire

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It means many times in history people have been prophesying and speaking inwhat is called languages of angels. And they turned out to be cults. And satanic, and not from God.
Ok. But where? Jim Jones? Those that pull away and seclude themselves from others are never right.
 
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One knows tongues is real by seeking and receiving it by faith.
We are not to judge others. God knows and that is all that matters.
I think we can 'judge' what is real and what is not...but I understand what you are saying
 
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