The Bible Code

[KJV1611]

Have you ever wondered why we have so many interpretation of scripture.
I mean why do some of us believe in the pre-trib rapture and some of us don't.
Some believe we have to continue to keep the law and some don't.
Some believe incoherent babbling is speaking in tongues and some of us don't... The list goes on and on.

Why is this? It's because the bible is written in code so that God's word is only revealed to those that he chooses to reveal it to. The bible is written in such a way that when a carnal mind reads the bible, he will come away with the fact that he is a sinner in need of salvation... that's it, nothing else. Everything else is concealed from the carnal mind as Proverbs 25:2 tells us.

Pro 25:2 It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter.

Proverbs 25:2 is a perfect example of what I'm talking about. Proverbs 25:2 is written in code. To the carnal mind, kings are the elites of the world, the esteemed scholars. The real meaning of the passage is that we as believers in Christ are the kings.

Rev 1:6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

God uses symbols throughout the bible to hide the real meaning of scripture from the world and reveal it to us. We can't make up meaning to scripture, we have to search scripture to find the meaning. The bible means what it says and says what it means. For example:

Mat 5:30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

We can't make up meaning to this passage. We can't say well God is trying to show us that sin is really bad, so bad that we should take extreme measures, as severe as cutting off our hand to stop us from sinning. We know God is not telling us that, because we are saved from hell by God's grace and not our works. Remember, the bible means what it says and says what it means. Next we have to dig out the meaning... it is the glory of God to conceal a thing, but the honor of kings to search it out. Look through your bible and find out what your right hand is, there is a "right hand" mentioned throughout scripture and it's not a literal right hand. This verse is not up to interpretation, neither is any of the rest of the bible. There is a very specific meaning to this passage.

 

[john832]

Have you ever wondered why we have so many interpretation of scripture.
I mean why do some of us believe in the pre-trib rapture and some of us don't.
Some believe we have to continue to keep the law and some don't.
Some believe incoherent babbling is speaking in tongues and some of us don't... The list goes on and on.

Why is this? It's because the bible is written in code so that God's word is only revealed to those that he chooses to reveal it to. The bible is written in such a way that when a carnal mind reads the bible, he will come away with the fact that he is a sinner in need of salvation... that's it, nothing else. Everything else is concealed from the carnal mind as Proverbs 25:2 tells us.

Pro 25:2 It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter.

Proverbs 25:2 is a perfect example of what I'm talking about. Proverbs 25:2 is written in code. To the carnal mind, kings are the elites of the world, the esteemed scholars. The real meaning of the passage is that we as believers in Christ are the kings.

Rev 1:6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

God uses symbols throughout the bible to hide the real meaning of scripture from the world and reveal it to us. We can't make up meaning to scripture, we have to search scripture to find the meaning. The bible means what it says and says what it means. For example:

Mat 5:30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

We can't make up meaning to this passage. We can't say well God is trying to show us that sin is really bad, so bad that we should take extreme measures, as severe as cutting off our hand to stop us from sinning. We know God is not telling us that, because we are saved from hell by God's grace and not our works. Remember, the bible means what it says and says what it means. Next we have to dig out the meaning... it is the glory of God to conceal a thing, but the honor of kings to search it out. Look through your bible and find out what your right hand is, there is a "right hand" mentioned throughout scripture and it's not a literal right hand. This verse is not up to interpretation, neither is any of the rest of the bible. There is a very specific meaning to this passage.

Actually, you are very correct here...

Mat 13:11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
Mat 13:12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
Mat 13:13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
Mat 13:14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:
Mat 13:15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

All are not called at this time. This is not the Great Controversy false doctrine of the SDAs. God is not desparately trying to save everyone while the Devil goes around and thwarts His plans. There is a time for everyone and everyone's time is not now.

 

[Simiel]

I will have to disagree. Today is everybody's times to be saved

 

[john832]

I will have to disagree. Today is everybody's times to be saved

That is refuted easily with just one passage from Romans...

Rom 11:7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded
Rom 11:8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear unto this day.

you may read on down through the chapter but for brevity I'll skip to...

Rom 11:32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.

 

[john832]

The next verse usually proferred is...

2Co 6:2 (For he saith, I have heard thee in a time accepted, and in the day of salvation have I succoured thee: behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation.)

Which is a quote from Isaiah...

Isa 49:8 Thus saith the LORD, In an acceptable time have I heard thee, and in a day of salvation have I helped thee: and I will preserve thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, to establish the earth, to cause to inherit the desolate heritages;

Please note it is "A" day of salvation. Else, if this is for Isaiah's day without the Christ then it is not for our day. If it is for our day through Christ, where does that leave those before 31AD?

Act 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

 

[Simiel]

1 We then, as workers together with him, beseech you also that ye receive not the grace of God in vain.

2 (For he saith, I have heard thee in a time accepted, and in the day of salvation have I succoured thee: behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation.)

We could do the scripture thing all day.... But Jesus says you say 4 months to harvest but I tell you the harvest is ready.... I will go in more detail about John 4:35. But I'll leave it at that for now

 

[MaranathaSoonQuick]

The wisdom of God is seen as foolishness to the world, but no matter what translation you use, without the Holy Spirit you're reading but not fully comprehending. It's the Spirit that decodes the dark sayings of the wise, and reveals the mystery of the Gospel to us, those who have ears, those who are thirsty and hungry, God's arms are open, and He is willing to feed us with the Bread of life, which is Christ, which is the Word of God.

 

[john832]

I will have to disagree. Today is everybody's times to be saved

If that is the case, looks to me like the Devil is winning big time. I don't believe that for one minute.

 

[KJV1611]

I didn't say the bible would not reveal sin to unbelievers... that is the only thing an unbeliever will get out the bible. Once their saved if they believe every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God, then the mysteries will be revealed to them.

 

[Simiel]

Yea he's winning alright ... Sad to say But God gave us the power to go around and destroy the works of the devil and 95% of the Christians don't do it... God is not in control of earth he gave it to man and man gave it to satan... Now 1 with Christ we don't even use that authority to take it back. It's such a shame

 

[dcontroversal]

Have you ever wondered why we have so many interpretation of scripture.
I mean why do some of us believe in the pre-trib rapture and some of us don't.
Some believe we have to continue to keep the law and some don't.
Some believe incoherent babbling is speaking in tongues and some of us don't... The list goes on and on.

Why is this? It's because the bible is written in code so that God's word is only revealed to those that he chooses to reveal it to. The bible is written in such a way that when a carnal mind reads the bible, he will come away with the fact that he is a sinner in need of salvation... that's it, nothing else. Everything else is concealed from the carnal mind as Proverbs 25:2 tells us.

Pro 25:2 It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter.

Proverbs 25:2 is a perfect example of what I'm talking about. Proverbs 25:2 is written in code. To the carnal mind, kings are the elites of the world, the esteemed scholars. The real meaning of the passage is that we as believers in Christ are the kings.

Rev 1:6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

God uses symbols throughout the bible to hide the real meaning of scripture from the world and reveal it to us. We can't make up meaning to scripture, we have to search scripture to find the meaning. The bible means what it says and says what it means. For example:

Mat 5:30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

We can't make up meaning to this passage. We can't say well God is trying to show us that sin is really bad, so bad that we should take extreme measures, as severe as cutting off our hand to stop us from sinning. We know God is not telling us that, because we are saved from hell by God's grace and not our works. Remember, the bible means what it says and says what it means. Next we have to dig out the meaning... it is the glory of God to conceal a thing, but the honor of kings to search it out. Look through your bible and find out what your right hand is, there is a "right hand" mentioned throughout scripture and it's not a literal right hand. This verse is not up to interpretation, neither is any of the rest of the bible. There is a very specific meaning to this passage.

Numerous reasons as listed below...
1. The word of God is spiritual in nature and origin, the natural man cannot receive it nor do they have the ability to (spiritually) discern it . I.E. lost man cannot understand (even salvation) unless God enlightens thru the Holy Spirit of God leading and guiding into ALL truth.
2. The word of God is ever ascending in depth and knowledge. The bible tells us meat (the deeper things of God belong unto the mature) and just as a baby would choke on a piece of steak, someone who is immature in the word will not have the level of understanding that a mature well versed individual would have. The more you know, the more you can know and will know.
3. MANY people will take a scripture out of context and hang their belief on it which leads to even more heresy. LINE UPON LINE and PRECEPT UPON PRECEPT in context is the only way study/teach/preach the word of God.
4. Satan added one word and doubt to the message in the garden that was east ward in Eden and false teachers do the same. They add to or take away from the word which piles on even more heresy and leads to more confusion.

These four sum it up for me as to why there is every flavor of Christianity and every kind of (gospel) being preached under the sun as well as found on this planet.

 

[KJV1611]

The wisdom of God is seen as foolishness to the world, but no matter what translation you use, without the Holy Spirit you're reading but not fully comprehending. It's the Spirit that decodes the dark sayings of the wise, and reveals the mystery of the Gospel to us, those who have ears, those who are thirsty and hungry, God's arms are open, and He is willing to feed us with the Bread of life, which is Christ, which is the Word of God.

The Spirit reveals the dark sayings by bringing other scripture to our minds... if the translation does not maintain the correct symbolism throughout then the Spirit can't show us the meaning. The Spirit only speaks what it hears.... The symbolism is maintained from cover to cover in the inerrant word of God, not so much in some of the other translations.

Joh_16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

 

[Vernon]

I believe there is both a simplicity and complexity to the scripture, Jesus said that: "whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child shall in no wise enter therein." Luke 18:17.
God made it real simple: Repent and believe the gospel and Love God and love one another.
The scripture is also as complex as God himself: "...(whoso readeth, let him understand)" Matthew 24:15
I do not believe anyone can grasp all the mysteries the scripture has to reveal, but it is sure enjoyable trying to.

 

[KJV1611]

I believe there is both a simplicity and complexity to the scripture, Jesus said that: "whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child shall in no wise enter therein." Luke 18:17.
God made it real simple: Repent and believe the gospel and Love God and love one another.
The scripture is also as complex as God himself: "...(whoso readeth, let him understand)" Matthew 24:15
I do not believe anyone can grasp all the mysteries the scripture has to reveal, but it is sure enjoyable trying to.

Exactly Vernon... child like faith. If my Father said, then I believe it, every word of it.

 

[dcontroversal]

I believe there is both a simplicity and complexity to the scripture, Jesus said that: "whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child shall in no wise enter therein." Luke 18:17.
God made it real simple: Repent and believe the gospel and Love God and love one another.
The scripture is also as complex as God himself: "...(whoso readeth, let him understand)" Matthew 24:15
I do not believe anyone can grasp all the mysteries the scripture has to reveal, but it is sure enjoyable trying to.

It also states, "not to be removed from the simplicity that is in Christ" as well.

 

[john832]

Yea he's winning alright ... Sad to say But God gave us the power to go around and destroy the works of the devil and 95% of the Christians don't do it... God is not in control of earth he gave it to man and man gave it to satan... Now 1 with Christ we don't even use that authority to take it back. It's such a shame

And yet we read...

1Ti 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

So either there is a time when everyone has a (singular) chance or this passage is incorrect. If the passage is incorrect we are all wasting our time, nothing can be trusted.

 

[john832]

I believe there is both a simplicity and complexity to the scripture, Jesus said that: "whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child shall in no wise enter therein." Luke 18:17.
God made it real simple: Repent and believe the gospel and Love God and love one another.
The scripture is also as complex as God himself: "...(whoso readeth, let him understand)" Matthew 24:15
I do not believe anyone can grasp all the mysteries the scripture has to reveal, but it is sure enjoyable trying to.

Astute observation.

 

[Simiel]

Smh who preaches/teaches God message so that they can come to the knowledge of the truth and be saved??

 

[KJV1611]

Mat 7:9 Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone?

Do you think this verse is a contrast between good food and bad food or is God revealing a hidden treasure here.

Think of all the things you've read in the bible that are spiritually related to stones and bread. Here are a couple:

Exo_24:12 And the LORD said unto Moses, Come up to me into the mount, and be there: and I will give thee tables of stone, and a law, and commandments which I have written; that thou mayest teach them.

Joh_6:35 And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.

Here's another. Do you think the devil is tempting Jesus through his carnal appetite or is he tempting Jesus to avoid the cross and let salvation be through the law.

Luk 4:3 And the devil said unto him, If thou be the Son of God, command this stone that it be made bread.

 

[KJV1611]

Some more interesting things about stones.

Mat 3:6 And were baptized of him in Jordan, confessing their sins.
Mat 3:7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?
Mat 3:8 Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance:
Mat 3:9 And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.

These stones point to the 2 tables of stone (10 commandments) which convict us of sin which leads us to Jesus which means we are children of Abraham.

I think there may be another meaning in this passage also. In the verses above, John was baptizing in the Jordan river. Many years before John came baptizing in the Jordan, Joshua laid 12 stones in that river, prophesying of the 12 disciples to come later... I think the stones John was talking about were the stones laid in the river by Joshua.