THE BIBLE IS REALLY THE OLD TESTAMENT. THE NEW TESTAMENT IS NOT THE BIBLE

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THE NEW TESTAMENT IS SIMPLY AN ACCOUNT OF WHAT IT TOOK TO UNITE THE GENTILES TO THE OLD TESTAMENT WITH THE JEWS
 

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I believe the Old Testament is part of what it takes to unite people with Heavenly Father through the Messiah Yahshua.

all concluded in unbelief that He may have mercy on those that believe.
 

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Romans 7

1Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth? 2For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband. 3So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.4Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God. 5For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death. 6But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
delivered from not to.
 

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The old testament wasnt the bible until it was put togather before that ia was just seperate books later the new testment was put togather an added on an they now both make up the bible.
 
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delivered from not to.
THAT WAS REFERRING TO THE ELECT OF ISRAEL NOT THE WHOLE WORLD. THE ELECT HAD TO GET GRACE AND THEN SEALED BEFORE THEY COULD GO OUT AND BRING IN THE GENTILES. HENCE MY INITIAL POST, THE NEW TESTAMENT IS SIMPLY TELLING YOU WHAT IT TOOK FOR THE ELECT TO GO OUT AND BRING THE GENTILES INTO THE LAW. YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT THE GENTILES ARE THE BEASTS OF THE FIELD. VERY VIOLENT AND HENCE THE SAYING, WHY DO THE HEATHENS RAGE ? SO FOR THE ELECT TO BE SAVED FROM THE HEATHENS RAGE THEY HAD TO BE GIVEN GRACE AND THEN SEALED >>> LUKE I VS 71 That we should be saved from our enemies, and from the hand of all that hate us;


LUKE 1 VS 74 That he would grant unto us, that we being delivered out of the hand of our enemies might serve him without fear


NEHEMIAH 5 VS 9 Also I said, It is not good that ye do: ought ye not to walk in the fear of our God because of the reproach of the heathen our enemies?
 
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THAT WAS REFERRING TO THE ELECT OF ISRAEL NOT THE WHOLE WORLD. THE ELECT HAD TO GET GRACE AND THEN SEALED BEFORE THEY COULD GO OUT AND BRING IN THE GENTILES. HENCE MY INITIAL POST, THE NEW TESTAMENT IS SIMPLY TELLING YOU WHAT IT TOOK FOR THE ELECT TO GO OUT AND BRING THE GENTILES INTO THE LAW. YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT THE GENTILES ARE THE BEASTS OF THE FIELD. VERY VIOLENT AND HENCE THE SAYING, WHY DO THE HEATHENS RAGE ? SO FOR THE ELECT TO BE SAVED FROM THE HEATHENS RAGE THEY HAD TO BE GIVEN GRACE AND THEN SEALED >>> LUKE I VS 71 That we should be saved from our enemies, and from the hand of all that hate us;


LUKE 1 VS 74 That he would grant unto us, that we being delivered out of the hand of our enemies might serve him without fear

The Law of Moses?
 
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The old testament wasnt the bible until it was put togather before that ia was just seperate books later the new testment was put togather an added on an they now both make up the bible.
THE POINT IS THAT THE OLD TESTAMENT IS THE MAIN FRAME OF THE BIBLE. WE ARE STILL UNDER THE LAW. THE NEW TESTAMENT IS A BOOK OF THE ELECT MOSTLY.
 

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THE POINT IS THAT THE OLD TESTAMENT IS THE MAIN FRAME OF THE BIBLE. WE ARE STILL UNDER THE LAW. THE NEW TESTAMENT IS A BOOK OF THE ELECT MOSTLY.
Are you proposing circumcision to keep the law of Moses?
 

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Jeremiah 31

31Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: 32Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD: 33But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. 34And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
please take the time to consider the above.
 
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did GOD not say He would make a New Covenant?
A NEW COVENANT NOT A NEW TESTAMENT. BIG DIFFERENCE. SO MANY PEOPLE CONFUSE COVENANT WITH TESTAMENT. THE NEW TESTAMENT IS PART OF THE OLD COVENANT. THE NEW COVENANT IS PUTTING THE LAWS IN OUR INWARD PARTS MEANING THE CORRUPTIBLE INHERITS INCORRUPTION. MORTALITY INHERITS IMMORTALITY ( SPIRITUALLY THAT IS ). INABILITY TO SIN. WE ARE MADE INTO ANGELS ( MESSENGERS ).
 

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John 7

Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law? Why go ye about to kill me? 20The people answered and said, Thou hast a devil: who goeth about to kill thee? 21Jesus answered and said unto them, I have done one work, and ye all marvel. 22Moses therefore gave unto you circumcision; (not because it is of Moses, but of the fathers and ye on the sabbath day circumcise a man. 23If a man on the sabbath day receive circumcision, that the law of Moses should not be broken; are ye angry at me, because I have made a man every whit whole on the sabbath day? 24Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.
consider the above.
 
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Jeremiah 31



please take the time to consider the above.
SAYING THE SAME THING I AM SAYING. I THINK YOU ARE CONFUSING TESTAMENT WITH COVENANT. THE NEW COVENANT IS THE INABILITY TO SIN. THE NEW TESTAMENT IS PART OF THE OLD COVENANT
 

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A NEW COVENANT NOT A NEW TESTAMENT. BIG DIFFERENCE. SO MANY PEOPLE CONFUSE COVENANT WITH TESTAMENT. THE NEW TESTAMENT IS PART OF THE OLD COVENANT. THE NEW COVENANT IS PUTTING THE LAWS IN OUR INWARD PARTS MEANING THE CORRUPTIBLE INHERITS INCORRUPTION. MORTALITY INHERITS IMMORTALITY ( SPIRITUALLY THAT IS ). INABILITY TO SIN. WE ARE MADE INTO ANGELS ( MESSENGERS ).
it may be we are not understanding each other, that is why i'm trying to establish what you are proposing.

Do you believe men have to circumcise their foreskin?
 
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John 7



consider the above.
THE NEW TESTAMENT IS A BOOK FOR THE ELECT. ITS THEIR EXPLOITS AND LETTERS AND WHAT HAD TO BE DONE BEFORE THEY COULD GO OUT AND BRING THE GENTILES INTO THE LAW WITH ISRAEL. HENCE UNITING BOTH JEW AND GENTILES TO GOD UNDER THE LAW ( JOHN 11 VS 52 )
 

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The Testimony of the Messiah is recorded in the New Testament.

It is the Words of the Messiah that give eternal life.
 
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OH, MY GOODNESS! THERE'S NO NEED TO SHOUT IN THE FORUMS. PLEASE THINK. THANKS.
 

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The Old Testament contains the Old Covenant and the New Testament the New Covenant is that what you mean?