THE BOOK OF ENOCH IS TRUE -1

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Not to sound harsh here but Enoch i don't think ya gonna fit..
Very funny! God left it out for a reason. Not because it didn't fit, but can you imagine someone starting out reading this book? They would be totally dishevelled and lost. Have to understand the bible first to connect.
 
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Dear journey41:


Book of Enoch Exposed:
www.jesus-is-savior.com/Wolves/book_of_enoch.html

God save us. Amen. In Erie Scott



Many have disputed that the book of Enoch does not belong to the bible. Some have even in fact stated that this book contains lies. My intention is to bring your attention to prophesies in this book that harmonise with the bible.

You can look up yourself the history of this book and how it was rejected. We will forget about all that for a moment, and just look at what is written. To test it.

I let you be the judge.

Let me know what you think are condradictions. Here are just a few for now. I will put some more on the second post if you want to follow.

ENOCH SECTION 2
THE PARABLES

ENOCH 38:1 The first parable
When the congregation of the righteous shall appear,
and sinners shall be judged for their sins,
And shall be driven from the face of the earth:


ENOCH 38:2 And when the Righteous One shall appear before the eyes of the righteous,
Whose elect works hang upon the Lord of Spirits ,
And light shall appear to the righteous and the elect who dwell on the earth


ENOCH 38:3 Where then will be the dwelling of the sinners,
and where the resting place of those who have denied the Lord of Spirits?
It had been good for them if they had not been born.

When the secrets of the righteous shall be revealed and the sinners judged.
And the godless driven from the prescence of the righteous and elect,


ENOCH 38:4 From that time those that possess the earth shall no longer be powerful and exalted:
And they shall not be able to behold the face of the holy,
For the Lord of Spirits has caused His light to appear
on the face of the holy, righteous, and elect.


ENOCH 38:5 Then shall the kings and the mighty perish
And be given into the hands of the righteous and holy.

ENOCH 38:6 And thence forward non shall seek for themselves mercy from the Lord of Spirits
For their life is at an end.


ENOCH 46:1 And there I saw One who had a head of days,
And his head was white like wool,
And with Him was another being whose countenance had the appearance of a man,
And his face was full of graciousness, like one of the holy angels.


ENOCH 46:2 And I asked the Angel who went with me and showed me all the hidden things concerning that


ENOCH 46:3 Son of Man, who he was, and whence he was, (and) why he
went with the Head of Days? And he answered and said unto me


This is the son of Man who hath righteousness,
With whom dwelleth righteousness,
And who revealeth all the treasures of that which is hidden,

Because the Lord of Spirits hath chosen him,
And whose lot hath the pre-eminence before the Lord of Spirits
in uprightness for ever.


ENOCH 46:4 And this Son of Man whom thou hast seen
Shall raise up the kings and the mighty from their seats,
(And the strong from their thrones)
And shall loosen the reins of the strong,
And break the teeth of the sinners.


ENOCH 46:5 (And he shall put own the kings from their thrones and kingdoms)
Because they do not extol and praise him,
Nor humbly acknowledge whence the kingdom was bestowed upon them.


ENOCH 46:6 And he shall put down the countenance of the strong,
and shall fill them with shame.

And darkness shall be their dwelling,
And worms shall be their bed,
And they shall have no hope of rising from their beds
Because they do not extol the name of the Lord of Spirits.
(And raise their hands against the Most high)
And tread upon the earth and dwell upon it.
And all their deeds manifest unrighteousness,
And their power rests upon their riches,
And their faith is in the gods which they have made with their hands
And they deny the name of the Lord of Spirits.


ENOCH 46:8 And they persecute the houses of His congregations,
And the faithful who hang upon the name of the Lord of Spirits.


ENOCH 47:1
And in those days shall have ascended the prayer of the righteous,
And the blood of the righteous from the earth before the Lord of Spirits.

ENOCH 47:2 In those days the holy ones who dwell above in the heavens
Shall unite with one voice
And supplicate and pray and praise,
And give thanks and bless the name of the Lord of Spirits
On behalf of the blood of the righteous which has been shed,
And that the prayer of the righteous may not be in vain before the Lord of Spirits,
That judgement may be done unto them,
And that they may not have to suffer for ever.

ENOCH 47:3 In those days I saw the Head of Days when He seated himself upon the thone of His glory,
And the books of the living were opened before him:
And all His host which is in heaven above and His counselors stood before him,

ENOCH 47:4 And the hearts of the holy were filled with joy;
Because the number of the righteous had been offered,
And the prayer of the righteous had been heard
And the blood of the righteous been required before the Lord of Spirits



 

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and see now no one stops to think,,,,,,,in egypt,,,,,it was said that the hebrews had a "proficy" that is "a deliverer" but now "moses" who was still a baby had not yet written the first five books of the modern bible,, so in what books do you figure the proficy was written,,,,,,,enoch(hanoch),jaser,job ect.ect. stop and consider these "proficies" and who was quoting them,,,,,,,,,,,,job said "if you want to know the truth,ask the tree",,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,"enoch was who he quoted"i.e.,,,,,,,,,and the sun continues in its course, and does not change,and the moon, and the star,,,,,,,,,,,,"they obey god" ,,man does not
 
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A few thoughts before I (probably) disappear again. I've never really understood why Enoch wasn't included, although the part about people being the size of skyscrapers might have been a part of it. Still -


People 450-Feet Tall?
Are you really gullible enough to believe that fallen angels had physical intimacy with earthly women that produced offspring 450-feet tall? I don't think so! We read in chapter 7:12-15 of the Book of Enoch...

7:12 Whose stature was each three hundred cubits. These devoured all which the labor of men produced; until it became impossible to feed them;
7:13 When they turned themselves
against men, in order to devour them;
7:14 And began to
injure birds, beasts, reptiles, and fishes, to eat their flesh one after another, and to drink their blood.
7:15 Then the
earth reproved the unrighteous.


Well, it's quite possible that they grew larger and larger with every year, having started out relatively normal sized. People did live around nine hundred years at the time. And I could see this being possible, although unlikely.

It was on this site through NoahsDad that i found out about them, after i had almost lost my faith all over again from being on this site;


I know what you mean. I started out loving this site, until I kept running into too many posts like this:

The much greater deception is judeo christianity which is an oxymoron. Now i ask you why no one seems to care that the modern day jews, not the Israelites, or the remnant, are a counterfeit and that they reject Jesus Christ, The New Testament instead have besides the written torah their babylonian talmud,the zohar and kabbalah as their most holy books? [/FONT]
Jews are a counterfeit? Why, I never knew that I had been a counterfeit anything! Please - tell me about it. Since you know about the Jewish experience. Because I've always been fascinated with people who know "the Jews" read the kabbalah and the zohar, and of course know this having never spent any time with any Jews. I know I never read either. Rather, these people tend to learn stuff by reading conspiracy websites or somesuch. I was Jewish, and follow the Jewish Messiah as foretold in the Old Testament and described in the New. I'd like to think I have more knowledge of what Jews are like rather than someone taking notes at "WorldwideIsraeliConspiracyRunByRothchilds.com"

I keep saying this, but no one ever listens: The reason it's exceedingly difficult to get Jews to convert? Posts like this one, with the underlying message. Yeah, that'll get people to listen to you. The Jews as a whole don't really reject Jesus. They reject His representatives, who call them counterfeit, who have a history almost two thousand years long of hatred and scorn then violence against the Jew. And I would try to explain this to you in further detail, but some are without understanding; who have eyes, and see not; who have ears, and hear not.

For instance:


No you get me wrong. Esther is only in the bible for one reason.
To show how many jews rejected the command of God to leave babylon.
As many other books as in kings,chronicles and so forth which shows
the atrocities and stubbornness of them.
When many Israelites left already many of them refused to leave,
cause they feel so comfortable to be part of the high society and their man made theocracy.
Under those were esther the whore and her cousin mordecai who seduced the king
Ahasuerus to leave her wife vishta and as finally became queen commanded a preemptive strike
to kill haman his 10 sons and 75000 alleged enemies of the jews.
Therefor they celebrate annual purim the mass murdering till today with baking of haman ears from
with their little children.
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See, now I've learned a lot here. My pastor told us when we covered the book how Esther was included to show how God is in control of all events, even behind the scenes, how you could find God's fingerprints everywhere in not just this story but in all of human life. But I guess that was just my pastor. I also don't recall Esther being called a whore anywhere, maybe someone could find the Bible passage that relates that particular point? Or the one where it says that Mordecai seduced the king? Because that's not in my Bible either. I mean, I do recall how Esther was selected BY the King to be his new wife when his old one didn't work out. I also remember Mordecai discovering a plot to kill the king and stopping it. But as to Mordecai seducing the king, wow.

But you know, when you have a site that has people who think Jews are counterfeit people, I have to wonder what their solution to this is. And by that, I mean what would their 'final' solution be. Because, when you judge one group of people lesser than yourselves, it's not too much of a stretch for people to start doing something about it, history is full of examples of this. Much like what happened in Esther, by the way. It was also made quite clear that the edict to attack the Jews could not be rescinded, but that the Jews could also defend themselves, which was why you had all those people dying. Unless you assume that the Bible was lying about the Jews overpowering those who hated them, and who could have laid hand on their plunder, but did not. Which, you know, would not be the case thousands of years later when various churches killed and plundered the Jews.

Maybe things will be different here in a few more months. But I kind of doubt it.


Very funny! God left it out for a reason. Not because it didn't fit, but can you imagine someone starting out reading this book? They would be totally dishevelled and lost.
Well, I've always wondered why 1 Chronicles was included, and for that very reason. When I first became saved and started reading the Bible, I started with Genesis and read up until that. It was like hitting a brick wall. I went on to the New Testament after that, and had to force myself to read Chronicles, after over a year later.
 
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Well, I've always wondered why 1 Chronicles was included, and for that very reason. When I first became saved and started reading the Bible, I started with Genesis and read up until that. It was like hitting a brick wall. I went on to the New Testament after that, and had to force myself to read Chronicles, after over a year later.[/QUOTE] Havn't read 1Chronicles for a while, but your statement made me flick through it. It's got some really interesting prophesies (little treasures) when you get past the geneolegies.


1Chron 17:9 Also I will ordain a place for my people Israel, and will plant them, and they shall dwell in their place, and shall be moved no more; neither shall the children of wickedness waste them any more, as at the beginning.

1 Chron 17:11 And it shall come to pass, when thy days be expired that thou must go to be with thy fathers, that I will raise up thy seed after thee, which shall be of thy sons, and I will establish his kingdom.

1 Chron 17:12 He shall build me an house, and I will establish his throne for ever.

1 Chron 17:13 I will be his Father, and he shall be my son; and I will not take my mercy away from him, as I took it from him that was before thee:

1 Chron 17:14 But I will settle him in mine house and in my kingdom for ever: and his throne shall be established forevermore.
 
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The Book of Enoch, is not part of canon. I wouldn;t be saying that it is tru either.
 
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If the Prophet's, the Apostle's and Christ himself, used Enoch as an example in their teachings, its good enough for me; lest, God forbid, i listen to ANY man say its NOT good for exhorting and teaching.

The people that beleive this book doesn't belong, have only heard The Word in the BULL____, oh! i mean English languange; a diluted and watered down TRANSLATION.

The Book of Enoch; backs up the rest the Bible 100%, IF you have used the Bible for what it IS, a textbook to understand The Word in its ORIGINAL form, given to the people that GOD CHOSE to give it to.

Forever in Christ :)
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Forever in Christ
 
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Forever in Christ
I full well know you do not care about the Canon. That is why you have peddled the Gospel of The Twelve, as truth when it is rather, false.

I cannot demonstrate to people the error of their ways, when their eyes are closed and ears plugged.
 
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I full well know you do not care about the Canon. That is why you have peddled the Gospel of The Twelve, as truth when it is rather, false.

I cannot demonstrate to people the error of their ways, when their eyes are closed and ears plugged.
Thanks Judge Jimmy; Do you even understand the word, GOD, that was used in the Hebrew language in which The Word was Received ?

The word IS Elohim,, and in Hebrew" im" indicates PLURAL, and is used in Gen 1/1 and 2000 more times in the Hebrew.

Genisis 1/1 is the introduction to the Godhead, The Father, The Son AND The Holy Spirit, creating time/space and mass.

Other than the fact that The Gospel of The Holy 12 states that the Holy Spirit IS the Mother of GOD, which indicates that The Father IS NOT GAY or A-Sexual, like EVERY religion likes to SELL, what other verses in there do YOU claim to be false?

Forever in Christ :)
 
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Thanks Judge Jimmy;

You're 55. Grow up.
Do you even understand the word, GOD, that was used in the Hebrew language in w
hich The Word was Received ?

The word IS Elohim,, and in Hebrew" im" indicates PLURAL, and is used in Gen 1/1 and 2000 more times in the Hebrew.

Genisis 1/1 is the introduction to the Godhead, The Father, The Son AND The Holy Spirit, creating time/space and mass.

Other than the fact that The Gospel of The Holy 12 states that the Holy Spirit IS the Mother of GOD, which indicates that The Father IS NOT GAY or A-Sexual, like EVERY religion likes to SELL, what other verses in there do YOU claim to be false?

Forever in Christ :)
So now you're a polytheist?

The "gospel of the holy twelve" is a false gospel, that you keep peddling for truth.


Stop lieing.
 
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jimmydiggs

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Very funny! God left it out for a reason.
Because it is not inspired.

Not because it didn't fit, but can you imagine someone starting out reading this book?
Irrelevant. Same goes for the rest of the bible. Talking donkeys? Red Sea? Burning bushes?

They would be totally dishevelled and lost.
Many are dishevelled and lost when it comes to the bible.

Have to understand the bible first to connect.
Yep. Reading the bible causes one to believe it does not belong.

In Titus 1:12, Paul quotes Epiminides. Therefor, it was subtracted from the canon in a jewish conspiracy!

Titus 1:12 (NASB95)
12 One of themselves, a prophet of their own, said, “Cretans are always liars, evil beasts, lazy gluttons.”
 
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You're 55. Grow up.

So now you're a polytheist?

The "gospel of the holy twelve" is a false gospel, that you keep peddling for truth.


Stop lieing.
Thanks for all your bad advice Judge Jimmy, but i'll pass, already grew up once and it sucked. After hearing OUR Father out in the Language He Chose to Give it in, HEBREW:p i am once AGAIN young of heart/mind, instead of old, angry,bitter,cofused etc...like i was. Oh! and my faith in Christ has NEVER been stronger, and only gets BETTER Everday, You would ask me to throw this away? :confused: You can take this world and EVERYTHING in it and >>>>>>>>>>>>>

Not exactly sure what a polytheist is, nor do i care to know, :D But if your denying The ONE & ONLY FATHER"S Holy Spirit, that were ALL a part of; well you have read it. :eek:

Out of ALL the NT teachings of Christ, no teaching touchs my spirit more, (of course disreguarding the cross; as i'm sure you would throw this in my face next :D) than when Christ lifted up the little child and said; lest EVERYONE of you, enter the Kingdom of Heaven as this little child, your NOT getting in.



Forever in Christ :)
 
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Thanks for all your bad advice Judge Jimmy

Again, grow up. This isn't a playground.

, but i'll pass, already grew up once and it sucked. After hearing OUR Father out in the Language He Chose to Give it in, HEBREW:p i am once AGAIN young of heart/mind, instead of old, angry,bitter,cofused etc...like i was. Oh! and my faith in Christ has NEVER been stronger, and only gets BETTER Everday,


1 Cor 13
8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. 9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10 but when completeness comes, what is in part disappears. 11 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind me. 12 For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.


You would ask me to throw this away? :confused:

Yes. Get rid of the false gospels. Believe on God's revelation through the bible. The book of Enoch, the Gospel of Twelve, and other books are not apart of the bible. It's not a giant jewish conspiracy. Don't be fooled.

You can take this world and EVERYTHING in it and >>>>>>>>>>>>>


I'll pass.

Not exactly sure what a polytheist is, nor do i care to know, :D
You said, if I understand correctly that there is more than one God.

Are you a God?

But if your denying The ONE & ONLY FATHER"S Holy Spirit, that were ALL a part of; well you have read it. :eek:
You're not a part of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit resides and lives within the Christian.

Out of ALL the NT teachings of Christ, no teaching touchs my spirit more, (of course disreguarding the cross; as i'm sure you would throw this in my face next :D) than when Christ lifted up the little child and said; lest EVERYONE of you, enter the Kingdom of Heaven as this little child, your NOT getting in.
Child-like faith, does not equate to naivitity.
 
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Again, grow up. This isn't a playground.




1 Cor 13
8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. 9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10 but when completeness comes, what is in part disappears. 11 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind me. 12 For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.



Yes. Get rid of the false gospels. Believe on God's revelation through the bible. The book of Enoch, the Gospel of Twelve, and other books are not apart of the bible. It's not a giant jewish conspiracy. Don't be fooled.



I'll pass.


You said, if I understand correctly that there is more than one God.

Are you a God?


You're not a part of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit resides and lives within the Christian.


Child-like faith, does not equate to naivitity.
Of course this is a playground and NO i won't grow-up EVER :p Otherwise i just mtght make the mistake of thinking what satan/death thought when he WAS Lucifer (if you KNOW what Lucifer even means :D)

This should answer ALL you stupid questions and prejudice statements, IF you know anything, but somehow i figure Not, as you don't even answer the questions that are directed to you; you just pull that Zone Clone crap . (i beleive its you that likes that word "A") :D

Forever in Christ :)