The Catholic Charismatic ATTACK EXPOSED!

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Attack?

Attack?

I don't feel too threatened by Charismatics attacking me.

What are they gonna do... speak in tongues at me?


I'm pretty sure I can defend myself from little old ladies trying to give me cookies and heal my bunions.





And if my satire is offensive, we might consider toning down the hyperbole to a reasonable level.

God Bless
Nobody thinks of it as an attack when they slowly sneak in their teachings thru their worship songs.
When's the last time you read the words of a chorus without music?
If you haven't, you'll be surprised when you do.
 
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CULT ATTACK!!!!!

The person on this video is a Seventh Day Adventist. How do I know? Because he placed Ellen Whites Great Controversy on the seats of the Conference members and it is plugged at the very end of the video. Like most if not all SDA propaganda no mention of the SDA is found anywhere on it apart from where it is slipped in among the list of Denominations in the place where he discusses the role of Music in various Churches.

The main method of deception used by the enemy is to quote the Bible and appear to be holy. It is generally mixed with a dose of falsehood so that the unsuspecting swallow it all like a fish taking bait.

One needs to ask why the SDA are so shy of revealing themselves as the authors and originators of their material and need to use other names as proxies. Deception seems to be their motive. In the Video the presenter discusses how Satan used a Snake as a proxie to deceive Eve. It seems he is still using the same trick today.
I'm not a SDA myself, but what I notice from SDA videos is that they can do an excellent job exposing issues in the church.
That seems to be a strength of theirs.
Funny how they don't discover their own.
 

Nehemiah6

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I am wondering that if the charismatic movement is from God and is lead from the Holy Spirit, that they have no problem to Support the false teaching pf the RCC. In germany is the charismatic leader of a prayerhouse in Augsburg full accepted from the RCC .
This is the real issue. It is not a Charismatic Catholic attack but a Charismatic Catholic Deception. How is it possible that the Holy Spirit would support any group which blatantly perverts the Gospel and preaches "another gospel"?
 

maxwel

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Nobody thinks of it as an attack when they slowly sneak in their teachings thru their worship songs.
When's the last time you read the words of a chorus without music?
If you haven't, you'll be surprised when you do.

If nobody thinks of it as an "attack"...

then it was an odd choice to put "attack" right in the title,
and then post a vid calling it an "attack".

Odd choices.





I'm not disparaging your view on this topic.
I just think the forum descends into hyperbole a bit more than is needful.
 

KelbyofGod

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The holy ghost isn't controlled by or limited to any man made GROUPS. That's why you see the holy ghost showing up in individuals within any group of people who truly start seeking God regardless what the general policy of the group leaders.
 
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If nobody thinks of it as an "attack"...

then it was an odd choice to put "attack" right in the title,
and then post a vid calling it an "attack".

Odd choices.





I'm not disparaging your view on this topic.
I just think the forum descends into hyperbole a bit more than is needful.
It is what it is.
If it's not of God...
That makes it an attack.
If christians would quit compromising & call it as it is, the church wouldn't be sliding down that slippery slope today, would they?
 

stonesoffire

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Holy Spirit came to those who were seeking God. Intimacy with Him.
 

Jackson123

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Bladerunner

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I know there are Christian Catholics even if I do not understand it. I say I know this because my Rabbi says there are. But in all honesty I do not care enough to try to look beyond the false god thing to find out G-d will sort out the what and the tears anyway. Not my job. But that does not dot keep me from calling a spade a spade...
Well let me introduce you to the Authority of GOD,,,The Bible.
In Revelations Chapter 1, the candle sticks (lampstands) represent the seven Churches....and they are here on earth. They are also on earth in Rev. Chapters 2 and 3. They are not on earth in Rev Chapter 4

In Revelations chapters 2 and 3, Jesus tells the seven Churches that the overcomers will be with him forever.

In Rev Chapter 4, John identifies himself with the Church and he is taken to Heaven by an angel. He finds himself in the Throne Room among the 24 elders (representing the Church/Bride).

Here there are 7 lampstands which represent the 7 churches (throughout the last 2000 years).

As one can see, there were overcomers in every Church.

Yes, there are True Christians that happen to be Catholics. It is my opinion that there are true Christians from out of every Church including the two that had nothing good said about them.
 

Nehemiah6

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The holy ghost isn't controlled by or limited to any man made GROUPS. That's why you see the holy ghost showing up in individuals within any group of people who truly start seeking God regardless what the general policy of the group leaders.
The issue is not whether God can be limited by any mortal man. Obviously not. The issue is whether God the Holy Spirit can ever be in conflict with the Father and the Son, or with the written Word of God.

The Holy Spirit is the one who tells us in Galatians chapter 1 that if any man -- even an angel -- would bring another Gospel that the true Gospel of Jesus Christ, let him be accursed (anathema). There is no question that the RCC has another gospel altogether, which teaches that salvation is by grace through faith + the sacraments + many other things, while the Bible teaches that salvation is by grace through faith plus NOTHING.

So when a group contradicts and contravenes what is revealed by God, then it is impossible that the Holy Spirit will bless that false Christianity.

The Catholic Charismatic Renewal (CCR) insists that the teachings of the RCC must be upheld while its adherents speak in tongues. claim that miracles are taking place, and do whatever else Charismatics do. So the real issue is whether this is a fake manifestation of the Holy Spirit or something else altogether.

Also, traditionalist Catholics do not accept CCR: It will become clear that, despite the modern Churchmen’s enthusiasm for this movement, the CCR is fundamentally un-Catholic and irreconcilable with 20 centuries of Catholic teaching.
http://archives.sspx.org/miscellaneous/catholic_charismatic_renewal.htm
 

maxwel

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It is what it is.
If it's not of God...
That makes it an attack.

If christians would quit compromising & call it as it is, the church wouldn't be sliding down that slippery slope today, would they?
I get confused really easy.

When you started this thread you called it an "attack",
then in post #21 you said it's NOT an attack,
and now in post #26 you say it's an attack again.

I think I need to exit this thread; it's way too confusing for a simple person like me to follow.

God Bless
 

epostle

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PROPHECIES GIVEN AT ST. PETER’S BASILICA DURING THE CLOSING EUCHARIST ON PENTECOST MONDAY—MAY 1975
CHARISMATIC WORLD CONFERENCE
in the presence of the Pope, many cardinals and bishops:

"Because I love you, I want to show you what I am doing in the world today. Iwant to prepare you for what is to come. Days of darkness are coming onthe world, days of tribulation….Buildings that are now standing will not bestanding. Supports that are there for my people now will not be there. I want youto be prepared, my people, to know only me and to cleave to me and to have mein a way deeper than ever before. I will lead you into the desert…I will strip you ofeverything that you are depending on now, so you depend just on me. A time ofdarkness is coming on the world, but a time of glory is coming for my church, atime of glory is coming for my people. I will pour out on you all the gifts of myspirit. I will prepare you for spiritual combat; I will prepare you for a time ofevangelism that the world has never seen…. And when you have nothing but me,you will have everything: land, fields, homes, and brothers and sisters and love andjoy and peace more than ever before. Be ready, my people, I want to prepareyou…” (given by Ralph Martin)

"I speak to you of the dawn of a ‘new age’ for my church. I speak to you of aday that has not been seen before….Prepare yourselves for the action that Ibegin now, because things that you see around you will change; the combat thatyou must enter now is different; it is new. You need wisdom from me that you donot yet have.“IYou need the power of my Holy Spirit in a way that you nave not possessed it;you need an understanding of my will and of the ways that I work that you do notyet have. Open your eyes, open your hearts to prepare yourselves for me and forthe day that I have now begun. My church will be different; my people will bedifferent; difficulties and trials will come upon you. The comfort that you knownow will be far from you, but the comfort that you will have is the comfort of myHoly Spirit. They will send for you, to take your life, but I will support you. Cometo me. Band yourselves together, around me. Prepare, for I proclaim a new day, aday of victory and of triumph for your God. Behold, it is begun.” (given by BruceYocum)

"I will renew my church. I will renew my people. I will make my people one. I am calling you to turn away from the pleasures of the world. Iam calling you to turn away from the desires of the world. I am calling you to turn away from seeking the approval of the world in your lives. I want to transform your lives….I have a word for my church. I am sounding my call. I am forming a mighty army….My power is upon them. They will follow my chosen shepherd(s)….“…IBe the shepherds I have called you to be….I am renewing my people. I will renew my church. I will free the world.”

https://www.renewalministries.net/files/freeliterature/Prophecies_Pentecost_Monday.pdf
 
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I get confused really easy.

When you started this thread you called it an "attack",
then in post #21 you said it's NOT an attack,
and now in post #26 you say it's an attack again.

I think I need to exit this thread; it's way too confusing for a simple person like me to follow.

God Bless
People don't think of it as an attack when they slowly sneak in their teachings thru their worship songs.
When's the last time you read the words of a chorus without music?
If you haven't, you'll be surprised when you do.
I meant it to be understood that people don't think of it as an attack when actually it is.
All better now?
 

Jackson123

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PROPHECIES GIVEN AT ST. PETER’S BASILICA DURING THE CLOSING EUCHARIST ON PENTECOST MONDAY—MAY 1975
CHARISMATIC WORLD CONFERENCE
in the presence of the Pope, many cardinals and bishops:

"Because I love you, I want to show you what I am doing in the world today. Iwant to prepare you for what is to come. Days of darkness are coming onthe world, days of tribulation….Buildings that are now standing will not bestanding. Supports that are there for my people now will not be there. I want youto be prepared, my people, to know only me and to cleave to me and to have mein a way deeper than ever before. I will lead you into the desert…I will strip you ofeverything that you are depending on now, so you depend just on me. A time ofdarkness is coming on the world, but a time of glory is coming for my church, atime of glory is coming for my people. I will pour out on you all the gifts of myspirit. I will prepare you for spiritual combat; I will prepare you for a time ofevangelism that the world has never seen…. And when you have nothing but me,you will have everything: land, fields, homes, and brothers and sisters and love andjoy and peace more than ever before. Be ready, my people, I want to prepareyou…” (given by Ralph Martin)

"I speak to you of the dawn of a ‘new age’ for my church. I speak to you of aday that has not been seen before….Prepare yourselves for the action that Ibegin now, because things that you see around you will change; the combat thatyou must enter now is different; it is new. You need wisdom from me that you donot yet have.“IYou need the power of my Holy Spirit in a way that you nave not possessed it;you need an understanding of my will and of the ways that I work that you do notyet have. Open your eyes, open your hearts to prepare yourselves for me and forthe day that I have now begun. My church will be different; my people will bedifferent; difficulties and trials will come upon you. The comfort that you knownow will be far from you, but the comfort that you will have is the comfort of myHoly Spirit. They will send for you, to take your life, but I will support you. Cometo me. Band yourselves together, around me. Prepare, for I proclaim a new day, aday of victory and of triumph for your God. Behold, it is begun.” (given by BruceYocum)

"I will renew my church. I will renew my people. I will make my people one. I am calling you to turn away from the pleasures of the world. Iam calling you to turn away from the desires of the world. I am calling you to turn away from seeking the approval of the world in your lives. I want to transform your lives….I have a word for my church. I am sounding my call. I am forming a mighty army….My power is upon them. They will follow my chosen shepherd(s)….“…IBe the shepherds I have called you to be….I am renewing my people. I will renew my church. I will free the world.”

https://www.renewalministries.net/files/freeliterature/Prophecies_Pentecost_Monday.pdf
1975, is about 42 years ago, Now they are still pray to Mary, I hope finally they repent.
 
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CLOWNS in sheep clothing...I'm being kind using the word 'clowns'...
 

epostle

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We honor saints in heaven because they have attained the likeness (eikon / image) of God (2 Cor 3:18); “spirits of the righteous made perfect” (Heb 12:23). This is why we venerate them, because they reflect God’s glory and are His vessels.The painter is praised when his masterpiece is praised. It is His work. The saints are God’s workmanship, not man’s. Paul tells us to “imitate” him, which is a concept, it seems to me, similar to “honoring” or “veneration” (1 Cor 4:16, Phil 3:17, 2 Thess 3:7-9); and this is because he, in turn, imitates Christ (1 Cor 11:1, 1 Thess 1:6).
Bashing veneration to Mary is an insult to God's work, does violence to scripture and done out of ignorance.