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Saturday 8-5-23 7th. Day Of The Weekly Cycle, AV 18 5783, 46th. Summer Day

Matthew 24 NIV (biblehub.com)

Love, Walter And Debbie
The day when what we can term an abomination that will cause desolation is unknown. It will result in darkness according to Jesus. In rev ch8 it states a third of the sun will not shine neither a third of the moon, so, one third of the earth will be covered in darkness. It will be a horror unequalled since the creation of the world, and will never be equalled again. Although we don't know when that day is, I find the war in Ukraine extremely unnerving when I think of biblical prophecy such as Matt24
 

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Looks from here that the tribulation started this year.
 

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Tribulation has not started. Day the abomination that causes desolation is known--1290th day of the tribulation
 

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The abomination that causes desolation is not the beginning, but a mid point, from my understanding, either way it doesn't matter to a genuine believer, we are keeping our heads down and doing what He has us to do.:)(y):unsure:
Thank you and best wishes
 

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The abomination that causes desolation is not the beginning, but a mid point, from my understanding, either way it doesn't matter to a genuine believer, we are keeping our heads down and doing what He has us to do.:)(y):unsure:
Thank you and best wishes
Dan 12: 11 And from the time that the continual burnt offering is taken away, and the abomination that makes desolate is set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

When you quote Matthew 24, you are quoting scriptures directed at Israel

Shittim--This timing of the abomination is 30 days after the antichrist takes his seat in temple of God
 

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That isn't the beginning of the tribulation.:):unsure::coffee:
 
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When you quote Matthew 24, you are quoting scriptures directed at Israel

God
Nuclear weapons could be termed an abomination that causes desolation. If there was a nuclear war, concerning the main countries who now have those weapons it would result in darkness(Jesus mentioned darkness would be the result in Matt24) In rev 8 it states a third of the earth would be covered in darkness, due to a third of the sun and moon not shining. If there is a nuclear war concerning the main countries that have those weapons, it would result in a cloud covering a third of the earth, so the sun and moon would not shine over one third of the earth. It would be a horror unequalled since creation, and would never according to Jesus be equalled again, if those days were not cut short no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect they will be shortened. I don't see how all of that can only refer to Israel
 

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Nuclear weapons could be termed an abomination that causes desolation. If there was a nuclear war, concerning the main countries who now have those weapons it would result in darkness(Jesus mentioned darkness would be the result in Matt24) In rev 8 it states a third of the earth would be covered in darkness, due to a third of the sun and moon not shining. If there is a nuclear war concerning the main countries that have those weapons, it would result in a cloud covering a third of the earth, so the sun and moon would not shine over one third of the earth. It would be a horror unequalled since creation, and would never according to Jesus be equalled again, if those days were not cut short no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect they will be shortened. I don't see how all of that can only refer to Israel
16 then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains; Do you live in Israel???
 
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16 then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains; Do you live in Israel???
I think you are letting literalism carry you away. It could be symbolic of anywhere on this earth, though I'm not an expert, it could cause undesirable consequences in Israel also, without the devastation of elsewhere. However, it remains the only way man can bring to pass the prophecies of Matt24&Rev8. And sadly, it all fits
 
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Saturday 8-5-23 7th. Day Of The Weekly Cycle, AV 18 5783, 46th. Summer Day

Matthew 24 NIV (biblehub.com)

Love, Walter And Debbie

To a Hebrew follower of Jesus that means He is returning on the feast of Trumpets.

The Feast of Trumpets began on the first day (at the new moon) of the seventh month.

You had to be “watching” for the appearance of the new moon because no one knew the day or hour it would appear to mark first day of the new month and the feast of trumpets.


Paul understood this as a student and follower of Jesus Christ.


Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed— in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
1 Corinthians 15:51-52



We as Christians, who study to show ourselves approved unto God, knows that the Day of the Lord will not come as a thief in the night for us.


But you, brethren, are not in darkness, so that this Day should overtake you as a thief. 1 Thessalonians 5:4








JPT
 

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To a Hebrew follower of Jesus that means He is returning on the feast of Trumpets.

The Feast of Trumpets began on the first day (at the new moon) of the seventh month.

You had to be “watching” for the appearance of the new moon because no one knew the day or hour it would appear to mark first day of the new month and the feast of trumpets.


Paul understood this as a student and follower of Jesus Christ.


Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed— in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
1 Corinthians 15:51-52



We as Christians, who study to show ourselves approved unto God, knows that the Day of the Lord will not come as a thief in the night for us.


But you, brethren, are not in darkness, so that this Day should overtake you as a thief. 1 Thessalonians 5:4








JPT
Assuming a lot--How about the last trumpet in Revelations?
 
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Assuming a lot--How about the last trumpet in Revelations?

Studying scripture is certainly not assuming.


Do you understand that Jesus was plainly using Hebraic idiomatic language which His disciples understood, that referred directly to the feast of Trumpets?






JLB
 

Omegatime

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How about this then?

If we go from the feast of Trumpets to Pentecost it can be 1335 days to the Blessed day
 

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To a Hebrew follower of Jesus that means He is returning on the feast of Trumpets.

The Feast of Trumpets began on the first day (at the new moon) of the seventh month.

You had to be “watching” for the appearance of the new moon because no one knew the day or hour it would appear to mark first day of the new month and the feast of trumpets.


Paul understood this as a student and follower of Jesus Christ.


Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed— in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
1 Corinthians 15:51-52



We as Christians, who study to show ourselves approved unto God, knows that the Day of the Lord will not come as a thief in the night for us.


But you, brethren, are not in darkness, so that this Day should overtake you as a thief. 1 Thessalonians 5:4








JPT
Hello JPT, And how are you all? Whatever day He comes as The Father will: https://plainbibleteaching.com/2017/11/08/lord-come-quickly/

Love, Walter And Debbie